Alonso Quixano Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I don't do this with and respect to AGW Overlords, or Alpha Wolves combined power to attack us. I do this only for the safety of my alliance. We still hold our principles close to our hearts about accepting nations that we think are being treated unfairly, and need someone to stick up for them. By all accounts Zoltron was an amazing member, helped us to create a new charter, was very active, got people involved in forum discussion, and was genuinely a nice person to work with. So our members had no problem defending the member from the aggression of AGW Overlords, and accepted him fully as a member. Today our dear friend in Varangian Guard, Morphine, spoke to Zoltron to gauge his commitment to us, and they found it wavering. He was willing to defect to Varangian Guard, throw us under the bus, and try bring as many members with him as he could. He then said, he was going to coup or government, and take our alliance into a whole new direction. Our friend morphine was very nice, and sent us confirmation of this in a fifty page screenshot conversation, we read his words of tying to take advantage of the protectorate after we were attacked for defending him. We do throughly renounce anyone trying to use our goodwill to shield themselves from said attacks, but by all accounts this was not a person we thought would try to leave us high, and dry so fast. With that, I will personally rescind my protection of Zoltron, and remove him from the alliance. I know this is long in coming, and everyone will tell me, we told you so. I know there is still a war going on, and we fully take responsibility for the war. We are not surrendering, we are not capitulating, We are taking it upon ourselves to remove him, because it was what we wished to do, not because another alliance has asked us to. We've reached out to Alpha Wolves, and AGW Overlords through our friends in Varangian Guard. We know this does not constitute an end to the wars, but hopefully it allows the protectorate to negotiate a white peace; so Zoltron can pay for his crimes. We want no part in his destruction even on his coup attempt, we wish him well in finding a new home, or defending himself from AGW Overlords. To aid in that peace, since it has been my policy to accept these at risk nations, I will also step down from FA, and the alliance to allow them to move into a different direction, as soon as peace is achieved. I want to thank Roq for backing us up in this endeavor, and no one has been as close allies to us than Umbrella has. I will take all questions, and the barrage of critiques in this thread. Quote
Morphine Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) o/ PoSSe While we didnt always see eye to eye, We had mutual respect for each other and this was the right course of action on all parties. I can confirm that what was said is true. Long Live the Protectorate. 3 minutes ago, Alonso Quixano said: I don't do this with and respect to AGW Overlords, or Alpha Wolves combined power to attack us. I do this only for the safety of my alliance. We still hold our principles close to our hearts about accepting nations that we think are being treated unfairly, and need someone to stick up for them. By all accounts Zoltron was an amazing member, helped us to create a new charter, was very active, got people involved in forum discussion, and was genuinely a nice person to work with. So our members had no problem defending the member from the aggression of AGW Overlords, and accepted him fully as a member. Today our dear friend in Varangian Guard, Morphine, spoke to Zoltron to gauge his commitment to us, and they found it wavering. He was willing to defect to Varangian Guard, throw us under the bus, and try bring as many members with him as he could. He then said, he was going to coup or government, and take our alliance into a whole new direction. Our friend morphine was very nice, and sent us confirmation of this in a fifty page screenshot conversation, we read his words of tying to take advantage of the protectorate after we were attacked for defending him. We do throughly renounce anyone trying to use our goodwill to shield themselves from said attacks, but by all accounts this was not a person we thought would try to leave us high, and dry so fast. With that, I will personally rescind my protection of Zoltron, and remove him from the alliance. I know this is long in coming, and everyone will tell me, we told you so. I know there is still a war going on, and we fully take responsibility for the war. We are not surrendering, we are not capitulating, We are taking it upon ourselves to remove him, because it was what we wished to do, not because another alliance has asked us to. We've reached out to Alpha Wolves, and AGW Overlords through our friends in Varangian Guard. We know this does not constitute an end to the wars, but hopefully it allows the protectorate to negotiate a white peace; so Zoltron can pay for his crimes. We want no part in his destruction even on his coup attempt, we wish him well in finding a new home, or defending himself from AGW Overlords. To aid in that peace, since it has been my policy to accept these at risk nations, I will also step down from FA, and the alliance to allow them to move into a different direction, as soon as peace is achieved. I want to thank Roq for backing us up in this endeavor, and no one has been as close allies to us than Umbrella has. I will take all questions, and the barrage of critiques in this thread. Edited January 11, 2017 by Morphine Quote
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 A most desirable outcome. Quote
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Does this mean m inc can raid him? Quote
Andrewb610 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 He's no longer protected by us. That the rest is up to you Lord Hitchcock Quote
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: Does this mean m inc can raid him? I would hazard a guess that AGW Warlords and Alpha Wolves will likely stake a claim on him. Quote
Andrewb610 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Franz Ferdinand said: I would hazard a guess that AGW Warlords and Alpha Wolves will likely stake a claim on him. I would second that thought as well. Quote
Masterchief777 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I had one conversation with the rogue in question while he was hiding on the GATO AA, it was quite laughable. Quote
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 No worries, we are professionals. Jonesing is going to take him to wonderland. Quote
The Zigur Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I have to respect that you carry yourself in a professional and dignified manner even when things are crashing down around you. I still have my very strong suspicions about you as conveyed via PMs but if you are really not the bad guy here, then best of luck moving forward. Politics isn't nearly as unforgiving as when I started out in this world and it won't be hard to recover. Quote
Master Hakai Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Alonso don't let people tell you how to live your life!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: I have to respect that you carry yourself in a professional and dignified manner even when things are crashing down around you. I still have my very strong suspicions about you as conveyed via PMs but if you are really not the bad guy here, then best of luck moving forward. Politics isn't nearly as unforgiving as when I started out in this world and it won't be hard to recover. Alonso is a good guy, quit trying to *)#@ him over. Quote
The Zigur Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, Lord Hitchcock said: Alonso is a good guy, quit trying to *)#@ him over. Sorry, you have zero credibility on the subject. Quote
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Sorry, you have zero credibility on the subject. I know the subject well. Thank you. Quote
Andrewb610 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Sorry, you have zero credibility on the subject. Galerion and I get along (I think) that should account for something right? Quote
The Zigur Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, Andrewb610 said: Galerion and I get along (I think) that should account for something right? I've always been cool with you and most of PoSSE, and I had high hopes for you all as my ally. Anyway I don't believe in discussing private matters all over the OWF, contact me if you want to talk about it. Quote
Andrewb610 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: I've always been cool with you and most of PoSSE, and I had high hopes for you all as my ally. Anyway I don't believe in discussing private matters all over the OWF, contact me if you want to talk about it. Check CN PMs Quote
Lysergide Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Change the O to a U and the E to a Y. That name fits you better. Edited January 11, 2017 by Lysergide Quote
Alonso Quixano Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Posted January 11, 2017 To: Alonso Quixano From: Unruly Date: 1/10/2017 10:32:42 PM Subject: RE: War Declared! Message: To: Alonso. Cc: Al Bundy Core idea is sound ... No quarrel with POSSE -- and high respect for your support for team. As your forum note explained in more detail, we've seen some double-dealing by Zoltron long before he arrived at POSSE at year end. We do ask that permit a trade sanction against a nuke raider, if GATO would like to sanction. We are happy to send white peace and trade with a partner worthy of respect. ---- With that we have offered to sanction him ourselves, and see this war to an end. Quote
Ronnie Coleman Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Edit: Doesn't matter anymore Edited January 11, 2017 by Ronnie Coleman Quote
Morphine Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ronnie Coleman said: Edit: Doesn't matter anymore Poor guy. He was really looking forward to this. Quote
JEFFTVAN Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I am a "Newby" to POSSE but not the game itself. This thread clears up a lot of the conflicting information I have been seeing... not only from Zoltran but others as well. Now that the "bigger picture" has come in focus more clearly I can say this : 1) I support Alonso 100%. He was the first person who contacted me when I signed up and invited me in to POSSE. can understand his frustration behind all this crap, but I hope that when things cool down he will remain with our group 2) I have no issue with Alpha Wolves or AGW or ANYONE ELSE who has commented on this or other threads regarding this war. To me this whole thing reminds me of the bar fights I use to get into when I was younger--- I would be sitting minding my own business and punches start flying everywhere. then I get bumped and spill my double shot of Crown. Hopefully we all can be done with this mess and go back to doing shots (or whatever else makes you happy ) Way too many people have been drawn into this . Quote
DeathAdder Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 S'what happens when you accept a rogue. Quote
Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 o/ To P.O.S.S.E To Umbrella To AGW Overlords To AlphaWolves Quote
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