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13 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:

We have been declared on by Monsters University, and this move by Sephiroth is in obvious support of them. Being too afraid to confront the aid drop by Stonewall14 to Chae Yeong, Sephiroth has elected to repeat history and launch another terrorist attack against the Imperium. This will not be tolerated and we will use every means available to us to make our enemy's existence a living hell.

 

Supernova X formally recognizes the Goon Order of Neighbourly Slapping as a legitimate alliance and will ensure Chae Yeong is properly funded in his war against Animalz.

:ph34r: I merely did a tech deal with an old friend Chae Yeong with military escort and not an aid drop as you call it...:p

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When Chae was attacking the lower tier of Limitless Nexus & aNiMaLz, Junka tried convincing KoRT to sign a treaty with him and escalate the war with us rather than see to the peaceful resolution we reached. He constantly raves about how aNiMaLz are "barbarians" and his grudge against them for not accepting his offer of becoming his protectorate

 

I recieved the following message on the 27th from a high ranking member of aNiMaLz and had already made the decision to assist as soon as I got my coal/fish trade replaced, so I could collect and pay bills first.

Date: 9/27/2016 10:29:49 PM

Subject: SNX
Message: SNX has attacked animalz.

 

Junka constantly going out of his way to try inciting other alliances or blocs to fight the LPC for him I think is possibly worse than him taking a go at us himself. He's been running his mouth to long about war and it was obvious war was inevitable between him and the LPC; especially when he was referring to LPC members as valid targets. There is more to this war than the CB given, I didn't want to waste everyone's time with an junka type essay listing all the reasons we have to fight them and a bunch of propaganda.

 

Junka says SNX is incompatible with Libertarianism and has been trying to muster the strength to fight us, then lets fight and see SNX surrender for the 3rd time since Junka became leader. Trying to encourage other alliances to keep my allies at wars until they surrender despite Junka having no reason to be involved is reason to put him in his place. His constant insults towards LPC members and provocations is more reason.

 

Don't get to caught up on the CB, just know Junka has been asking for a war and was never content with the peace we had after our last war. 

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I just totally wiped out 3 snx losers lmao I am so happy this war happened I been waiting a long time to see the child like empress fall from her throne little Romulus is finally going to get the pounding he begged us for now u learn to leave us alone child boy cant get enough meth dope fiend lol doped up paper emperor lmao we r ruling u after 1 day lmao 21 gun salute to all the bad asses eating snx :lol1:

 

:gun:viva la lpcn

 

:war: viva la familia animalz!!!!!

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Here is a visual representation of SNX's navy at work,

 

HMS-Hood.jpg

 

Also here is Junka's war reason as he declares on one of our non-nuclear nations,

 

War Status: Currently Fighting
War Reason: For Chae Yeong!

 

He makes no secret of his support for Chae Yeong and his real reasons for fighting us. He supports Chae Yeong who has been attacking us, rather than caring about his members.

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12 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:

I announced our support for Chae Yeong in our recognition of war after you attacked us, so you're not pointing out anything new Sephiroth.

 

I warned you before that if you attack us, we will support him.

 

You rant and rave about being anti-Rogue, yet you've made no secret you support Chae Yeong because his target is the LPC. You've been looking for an excuse to support him directly for a while now, you've done your best in arguing he's not a rogue because you have a grudge against aNiMaLz, etc. Going so far as to argue against him being a rogue despite it being so clear cut. Although show the world your hypocritical support of rogues. you will end up sharing his fate on a short list of those who have proved to be beyond rehabilitation and constant enemies of the LPC..

 

Sometimes when another enemy comes along, it opens new opportunities for nations like Chae Yeong to decide if he wants to be our enemy or prove he can change by taking you out for us. Will Chae want to be remembered for fighting on your side and being used as one of your pawns, or instead uses you being the new focus of my wrath as an opportunity to prove he's able to move on from being on our enemy is a tempting offer to make for him.

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You defined Chae Yeong as a rogue because he fights by himself. You said Sir Kindle wasn't a rogue when he attacked KoRT because he wasn't fighting by himself, and had the support of Animalz and yourself.

 

Supernova X officially recognizes Chae Yeong and supports him as an auxiliary, therefore by your own definition he is no longer a rogue.

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29 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:

You defined Chae Yeong as a rogue because he fights by himself. You said Sir Kindle wasn't a rogue when he attacked KoRT because he wasn't fighting by himself, and had the support of Animalz and yourself.

 

Supernova X officially recognizes Chae Yeong and supports him as an auxiliary, therefore by your own definition he is no longer a rogue.

I came back from vacation, aNiMaLz and KoRT were locked in war with no end in site. When I came back I decided to bring it to an end through negotiation with KoRT, you chose to stick your nose in and try encouraging them not to agree on peace.

 

Your opinion was irrelevant and you bringing up every grudge you have against aNiMaLz as reason KoRT should have rejected peace while signing a treaty with you was way out of line. I wasn't active when Sir Kindle did what he did and I didn't care, other than the war had gone on long enough and it was time for it to end. You also were arguing against Chae being a rogue after he rogued the lower tier of Limitless Nexus, as well as made other efforts to undermine us. That situation brought about real clarity on how opposed to the LPC you really are, if the opportunity ever arose for you to destroy us you would go for it. You've never wanted co-existence on Brown, you've just been to weak to destroy us yourself and not many want to be used as a pawn by someone with your level of incompetency.

 

You think Chae Yeong will be your super weapon and gladly be a pawn to be used however you want, however if he wants to make up for his crimes against the LPC by attacking SNX instead; we could allow him to make up for his attacks against us by fighting somebody else if he doesn't want to always be at war with us and be able to achieve other goals. If he can prove himself useful by attacking you, he can have his freedom. Your recognition means nothing.

 

Edit: Also its been brought to my attention from the aNiMaLz viewpoint, the KoRT War was a defensive war meant to assist their ODP Partners in Monsters Inc against the Scots. Although that war is in the past and there is no need to rehash it, yet Junka keeps bringing it up despite being uninvolved. He likes to try picking at old scabs to try turning others against us, despite that war being resolved thanks to KoRT being much more reasonable than Junka. His obsession with trying to distort the facts of past LPC conflicts to cause us to fight others is another reason Junka needs to be dealt with, his obsession with the LPC Is unhealthy. If the alliances involved wanted to debate this, it would be different. Although Junka as an uninvolved alliance leader constantly bringing it up reveals him to be an enemy.

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19 minutes ago, Sephiroth said:

I came back from vacation, aNiMaLz and KoRT were locked in war with no end in site. When I came back I decided to bring it to an end through negotiation with KoRT, you chose to stick your nose in and try encouraging them not to agree on peace.

 

Your opinion was irrelevant and you bringing up every grudge you have against aNiMaLz as reason KoRT should have rejected peace while signing a treaty with you was way out of line. I wasn't active when Sir Kindle did what he did and I didn't care, other than the war had gone on long enough and it was time for it to end. You also were arguing against Chae being a rogue after he rogued the lower tier of Limitless Nexus, as well as made other efforts to undermine us. That situation brought about real clarity on how opposed to the LPC you really are, if the opportunity ever arose for you to destroy us you would go for it. You've never wanted co-existence on Brown, you've just been to weak to destroy us yourself and not many want to be used as a pawn by someone with your level of incompetency.

 

You think Chae Yeong will be your super weapon and gladly be a pawn to be used however you want, however if he wants to make up for his crimes against the LPC by attacking SNX instead; we could allow him to make up for his attacks against us by fighting somebody else if he doesn't want to always be at war with us and be able to achieve other goals. If he can prove himself useful by attacking you, he can have his freedom. Your recognition means nothing.

 

Sir Kindle attacked KoRT in support of the Plutocratic War against Supernova X, when Monsters Inc and Sengoku attacked us on the anniversary of the July Revolution. While peace was agreed to within a couple weeks afterwards, Sir Kindle continued his attacks and eventually fled back to Animalz, where he was supported by Animalz and yourself in that conflict.

 

Nobody forced you to accept my invitation to negotiate. But seeing as my ally SCOTLAND was supporting KoRT defensively, it was in the interests of the Imperium to intervene and support a solution favorable to SCOTLAND and their ally KoRT.

 

You can spin the narrative however you want, but ever since we joined Doom Sphere last year, we and our allies have been the constant target of those you associate with. Perhaps we have succeeded Doom's status as number one bad guy in your own mind. But the history of aggression by LPCN is clear:

 

OCTOBER 2015: As senator, you obstruct Galerion's sanctions requested by Kashmir against Thorgrum

DECEMBER 2015: Animalz attacks our ally Together as One, resulting in Operation Dog Pound

FEBRUARY 2016: Animalz violates NAP agreement, attacking our ally The Sovereign Order. War on Terror begins after you hold a "public trial" against me, and Animalz attacks.

MAY 2016: You try to recruit Jack Layton to attack Supernova X

JULY 2016: Sir Kindle and Montezuma harass KoRT as the Plutocratic War begins, in an effort to prevent reinforcement to SCOTLAND/SNX.

AUGUST 2016: You attack KoRT in support of Animalz and Sir Kindle's prior attacks

SEPTEMBER 2016: Monsters University attacks our ally Varangian Guard, you and Animalz declare war against Supernova X.

 

Basically almost every month in the last year, you or your cohorts have entangled themselves in the Imperium's affairs or outright attacked us.

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2 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

Don't get to caught up on the CB, just know Junka has been asking for a war and was never content with the peace we had after our last war. 

 

Hello pot, have you met my good friend kettle?

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11 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:

 

OCTOBER 2015: As senator, you obstruct Galerion's sanctions requested by Kashmir against Thorgrum

Ever since this you have been a constant enemy towards us, you continuing to bring it up as often as you can shows its a grudge you can't let go of.

 

You think the LPC's existence is incompatible with yours on Brown because of our anti-Sanction platform, this is why we are enemies. You think using sanctions as a tool to push anyone who can be defined as a rogue out of being able to have peaceful interactions with other nations is vital to how you think things should be.

 

The LPC changed the world in a way, you are oppossed to that change. Chae Yeong should take notes on who is the real obstacle to the existence of nations like his to exist. In Junka's ideal world someone like him would be sanctioned on every color in CN and unable to do much of anything, at least I'm willing to be sporting when I deal with him by not resorting to sanctions at least.

 

Every nation who wants freedom to fight the battles they want without getting sanctioned out of existence should take notes on what you've dedicated yourself to bringing back. We can offer safe sanctuary to those who choose to fight you unaligned or on one many AAs. Those who don't agree with people filling sanction requests as they recieve them in exchange for being able to get whoever opposes them on other colors sanctioned on request should all see you as an enemy.

 

Freedom is what you hate so much we can never manage to get along. I'll at least fight my enemies without resorting to sanctions or thinking they are needed.

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Supernova X defends civilization and order, upholds the sovereignty of alliances, and institutions of global stability. These traditions have elevated our world above the clannish barbarism seen in most alternate realities (ooc: other games). These traditions include the following:

 

  • The Casus Belli and Just War theory
  • Use of sanctions against rogues
  • Clearly defined public treaties
  • Focus on imposing order, creating civilization from the state of nature
  • The authority of the alliance sovereign

These traditions maximize the stability of sovereign alliances, allowing alliance members to elevate above the state of nature and pursue their full potential as nation rulers and alliance members.

 

Vladimir illustrated the beauty of these traditions in The Meaning of Freedom:

 

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As civilisation progresses it can be seen in many forms: culture, innovation, banking, diplomacy, active trade, and so forth. These are the things that lift an alliance out form the barbarism it was founded on and into the realms of unlimited possibility, where it is ultimately capable of whatever it wishes. The more advanced an alliance becomes in these fields the more civilised it can be seen as being.

 

The Imperium has become an Oasis of Civilization, surrounded by a desert full of barbarians who envy their superiors. You have little regard for these traditions, and would rather burn civilization down to the ground to live your fantasy of Chaos. So long as the Imperium remains, however, you and your kind will never fully succeed.

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Just now, Immortan Junka said:

Unfortunately you have little regard for these traditions, and would rather burn civilization down to the ground to live your fantasy of Chaos.

 

So long as the Imperium remains, however, you and your kind will never fully succeed.

Yet you claim to support Chae Yeong, when really you are just trying to use him against us. However we're the obstacle for you to sanction nations like his out of existence.

 

Chae Yeong would be your natural enemy if he wasn't fighting us, it shows how shallow and hypocritical you are when it comes to your definition of civilization & chaos. You love rogues as long as they are doing your dirty work.

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1 minute ago, Sephiroth said:

Yet you claim to support Chae Yeong, when really you are just trying to use him against us. However we're the obstacle for you to sanction nations like his out of existence.

 

Chae Yeong would be your natural enemy if he wasn't fighting us, it shows how shallow and hypocritical you are when it comes to your definition of civilization & chaos. You love rogues as long as they are doing your dirty work.

 

When attacked by terrorists, the Imperium will fight fire with fire. You attacked us, therefore we have the right to legitimize Chae Yeong in response.

 

We will forge a new age of peace, prosperity and glory from the blood of barbarians and degenerates who attack us.

 

 

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When you want to take away the freedom from nations like Chae Yeong, I don't see why he would willinglly be a tool for someone who despises nations who want to be able to choose who they want to war.

 

Our war with Chae is just one of pointless repetition. however its tyrants like yourself who are the natural enemy of nations like his. If he wants to take down a tyrant who's goal is to make the freedom he has now impossible, we're willing to give him his freedom from being considered our enemy if he wants to destroy the natural enemy of nations like his. He could fight for a real purpose, we'll see what he does.

 

Also I consider our war with you different from the one with Jack Layton's alliance & MU; and I'm willing to do what I can to close that front with white peace if they don't want their alliance to be a meat shield for SNX. Jack Layton was the enemy of last year, you're the enemy of today. If they want peace, they can have it if they don't agree with your nonsense on wanting the chains of oppression to once again prevent nations from fighting their conscience.

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7 minutes ago, Sephiroth said:

At least I'm nothing like Hillary, unlike Junka.

 

Hillary is a liar.

 

So an insane !@#$%? That works too. 

 

edit: Was unaware such a harmless word was censored.

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Just now, Sir Kiloist said:

 

So an insane !@#$%? That works too. 

 

edit: Was unaware such a harmless word was censored.

I would be the Libertarian & 3rd party option, so I would be neither.

 

Although I do think Junka has more similarity to Hillary, in he wants to manipulate old and corrupt traditions towards working for him through propaganda and lies.

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