Emperor Whimsical Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 you're still next lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Welcome to the fray o/ ODN o/ TLR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Murcielago Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Devilyn Caster said: Who is in charge of TLR these days anyways? Too bad you guys are on the wrong side of this one. Good luck in your wars, I beat Rush in damage in mine so I can chalk this up as a victory We are all children of Atom. We follow only the will of Atom awaiting reunification through The Glow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Welcome to the field friends, Refreshments can be found in aisle 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 i'm gonna be so buttmad when buddying up to NPO gets you guys the same treatment as most alliances that used to be buds with NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForSparta Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Os coddling to NPO. Big surprise. Edit: ODN to Os. The opinions of Os hardly reflect ODN as a whole. Edited June 19, 2016 by ForSparta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 4 hours ago, ForSparta said: Os coddling to NPO. Big surprise. Edit: ODN to Os. The opinions of Os hardly reflect ODN as a whole. Weird how he's been the face of the place for so long, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAdder Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Neo Uruk said: Weird how he's been the face of the place for so long, then. I would think a former member would know best, but maybe I'm just insane or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsRavan Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Heh, im one person and I would hardly say my personal views reflect ODN as a whole. Anytime you gather a hundred folks together there's going to be places people agree and places they disagree. However, if ODN wasnt of one mind in backing our allies involved in this war, we wouldnt have. So no, I dont pass my views (which I dont think forsparta is even aware of) as perse being representative of ODN as a whole. But my personal views also had little to do with ODN going to war here. Or with ODN liking and supporting our good friends in NPO for that matter (NPO is widely trusted and respected in our alliance. As is fitting for an mdp ally). So mostly I would chalk the question up as irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAdder Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 40 minutes ago, OsRavan said: Heh, im one person and I would hardly say my personal views reflect ODN as a whole. Anytime you gather a hundred folks together there's going to be places people agree and places they disagree. This is essentially my point exactly. Whether one is the face of their Alliance or not is irrelevant. I have yet to meet any AA where one singular individual reflects the whole of the Alliance's opinion on any number of things. Doesn't discredit the fact their opinion will carry a lot of weight on a subject, but that is an entirely different conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsRavan Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I would agree Adder. I would also say tbh that its irrelevant to the topic at hand. As in, my personal opinion (which people can message me privately if they are curious) actually had no baring on whether we went in or not and nothing to do with this dow really. But anyway said my piece so i'll go back to warring. I'm enjoying my clashes with you so far sparta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbies0310 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 14 hours ago, Emperor Whimsical said: you're still next lol lol cool story scrub. Hoping this a fun war for both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Poutine Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 58 minutes ago, OsRavan said: Heh, im one person and I would hardly say my personal views reflect ODN as a whole. Anytime you gather a hundred folks together there's going to be places people agree and places they disagree. However, if ODN wasnt of one mind in backing our allies involved in this war, we wouldnt have. So no, I dont pass my views (which I dont think forsparta is even aware of) as perse being representative of ODN as a whole. But my personal views also had little to do with ODN going to war here. Or with ODN liking and supporting our good friends in NPO for that matter (NPO is widely trusted and respected in our alliance. As is fitting for an mdp ally). So mostly I would chalk the question up as irrelevant As a member of ODN's government, especially as its secretary of state, your words are, in fact, representative of ODN as a whole. And as its leader for a long while, your words certainly carry much weight within and outwith the alliance. Do not pretend as though you are but some sweet, baby-faced new member whose words are irrelevant to the wider world. You may be 'one person' but you are one of very few about whose words anyone actually cares. As for the rest, I have no problem with you declaring war on Sparta here. Good on ODN for declaring in support of its allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Vladimir Poutine said: As a member of ODN's government, especially as its secretary of state, your words are, in fact, representative of ODN as a whole. And as its leader for a long while, your words certainly carry much weight within and outwith the alliance. Do not pretend as though you are but some sweet, baby-faced new member whose words are irrelevant to the wider world. You may be 'one person' but you are one of very few about whose words anyone actually cares. As for the rest, I have no problem with you declaring war on Sparta here. Good on ODN for declaring in support of its allies. All hail our eternal overlord on this web based game . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Best of luck to my allies in TLR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 o/ TLR o/ ODN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 hours ago, DeathAdder said: I would think a former member would know best, but maybe I'm just insane or something. I, personally, would think the current members of the alliance would know best. Maybe I'm just right or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 If anyone ensures the war ends reasonably it will be ODN, OsRavan is fair and easy to work with in my experience... so good luck and have fun to both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAdder Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Except you weren't. Maybe that's why Os and I essentially agreed on the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 yeah the leader of the alliance doesn't represent the alliance that's a really good, thoughtful point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaque Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I miss the days when ODN considered every treaty optional and didn't follow through on any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAdder Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Neo Uruk said: yeah the leader of the alliance doesn't represent the alliance that's a really good, thoughtful point Really, Rey? Do you even read things before you respond, or are you actually suggesting that the entirety of ODN (or any AA) just mindlessly follows their SecState without thinking for themselves, as the original post FS made suggested prior to the edit that you disagreed with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DeathAdder said: Really, Rey? Do you even read things before you respond, or are you actually suggesting that the entirety of ODN (or any AA) just mindlessly follows their SecState without thinking for themselves, as the original post FS made suggested prior to the edit that you disagreed with? Um I don't know if you know this but ODN voted for him. He represents them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonsPhyre Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Neo Uruk said: yeah the leader of the alliance doesn't represent the alliance that's a really good, thoughtful point OsRavan is actually not the Secretary General of the Orange Defense Network. He's the Secretary of State. Small difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DragonsPhyre said: OsRavan is actually not the Secretary General of the Orange Defense Network. He's the Secretary of State. Small difference. Er, right. I guess he was SecGen for so long that I just assume at this point >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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