Blackatron Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 58 minutes ago, mattski133 said: thanks to Last Call and PPO for following through on their promises. An IOU has been drafted for better days. thanks to NSO for the behind the scenes work with Oculus. And in the post war rebuilding to come. special thanks to Non Grata and their old/new friends for inspiring a renaissance in Kashmir, people are even posting on the forums once in a while. it's crazy. peace in our time, til someone else rolls us! Sounds like a good outcome to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 22 hours ago, kingzog said: If this were 2007 I would probably agree with you, but the fact is that things are now written for the sake of expediency and nobody particularly cares. I doubt very much that anyone on either side even noticed that. Otherwise....I guess I just 'opportunistically attacked' someone. Still not sure who, though. I'm sure you're right. Until someone gets bored and looks for and starts looking for any excuse to curbstomp someone again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Never have I seen such senseless terms. Enforcing someone's alliance affiliation because their alliance disbanded and they joined us properly as members to defend their former ally? Most reasonable people would see that as commendable, especially when they have the advantage anyways and the numbers don't add up to a meaningful difference in the outcome. Everyone should be able to choose their alliance as they see fit and under no opposition to do so. Pretty disappointed in the way politics have gone around here. Not even moral versus immoral anymore, just pointless positioning of one side's desire to strong arm another into submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I like being strong armed into submission but that's just a personal thing I don't expect everyone to be into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 22 minutes ago, Master Hakai said: 22 minutes ago, Master Hakai said: I like being strong armed into submission but that's just a personal thing I don't expect everyone to be into. We so picked the right allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 3 hours ago, lonewolfe2015 said: Never have I seen such senseless terms. Enforcing someone's alliance affiliation because their alliance disbanded and they joined us properly as members to defend their former ally? Most reasonable people would see that as commendable, especially when they have the advantage anyways and the numbers don't add up to a meaningful difference in the outcome. Everyone should be able to choose their alliance as they see fit and under no opposition to do so. Pretty disappointed in the way politics have gone around here. Not even moral versus immoral anymore, just pointless positioning of one side's desire to strong arm another into submission. As much as they want to deny it, the terms just prove that the entire war and the SNX !@#$ was all about getting DK nations and that Hershey and White Chocolate put a big, ol' stinky log in their corn flakes with their decision. The entire deal is about getting those particular nations. Just another witch hunt with no balls to call it what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, Rayvon said: As much as they want to deny it, the terms just prove that the entire war and the SNX !@#$ was all about getting DK nations and that Hershey and White Chocolate put a big, ol' stinky log in their corn flakes with their decision. The entire deal is about getting those particular nations. Just another witch hunt with no balls to call it what it is. Too bad they couldn't stick it to Oculus with actual politicking, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Master Hakai said: I like being strong armed into submission but that's just a personal thing I don't expect everyone to be into. I can recommend some...erm...entertainers if needed. I'd rather be fighting the extra 3 rounds but nobody listens to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Duderonomy said: I can recommend some...erm...entertainers if needed. I'd rather be fighting the extra 3 rounds but nobody listens to me. I'd rather the entire war continued for an extra 3 rounds as well. Although after dodging 7 nukes in a row, ending it on a high note isn't so bad. I think if the other side held out on surrendering for an extra 3 rounds, I doubt such a term would have been levied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Negotiations of these terms took a considerable amount of time, and the length of time specified by that particular term did not change. Please stop speculating about negotiations to which you were not a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Haflinger said: Negotiations of these terms took a considerable amount of time, and the length of time specified by that particular term did not change. Please stop speculating about negotiations to which you were not a party. Only if I'm included in the 3 rounds next time. If there's a next time. Is there a next time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Sephiroth said: I'd rather the entire war continued for an extra 3 rounds as well. Although after dodging 7 nukes in a row, ending it on a high note isn't so bad. I think if the other side held out on surrendering for an extra 3 rounds, I doubt such a term would have been levied. If we fought an extra 3 rounds, they wouldn't have made us fight an extra 3 rounds. Seems legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Sephiroth said: I'd rather the entire war continued for an extra 3 rounds as well. Although after dodging 7 nukes in a row, ending it on a high note isn't so bad. I think if the other side held out on surrendering for an extra 3 rounds, I doubt such a term would have been levied. Well you would be quite incorrect then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 55 minutes ago, Master Hakai said: If we fought an extra 3 rounds, they wouldn't have made us fight an extra 3 rounds. Seems legit. Closed-loop logic is best logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kingzog said: Closed-loop logic is best logic. I'd save a round for you, Mr. Hipster. That NoR blood fights stronk. Edited June 1, 2016 by Duderonomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Just now, Duderonomy said: I'd save a round for you, Mr. Hipster. I keep telling you, I actually need these things to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, kingzog said: I keep telling you, I actually need these things to see. We don't need to see to make fireworks BB. Actually, you wouldn't need those on Bob if you had a smartphone. I hold mine about 1 inch in front of my left eye at 3 AM. Makes typing difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Long live sacred Kashmir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 15 hours ago, Rayvon said: As much as they want to deny it, the terms just prove that the entire war and the SNX !@#$ was all about getting DK nations and that Hershey and White Chocolate put a big, ol' stinky log in their corn flakes with their decision. The entire deal is about getting those particular nations. Just another witch hunt with no balls to call it what it is. Watch out man, I don't think you're allowed to say anything remotely resembling the truth around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Chimaera said: Watch out man, I don't think you're allowed to say anything remotely resembling the truth around here. Sounds like him whining those who fought aren't telling him what he wants to hear for the reason. DK `s biggest problem was some of the alliances they supported, such as SNX and Kashmir were unpopular & overly aggressive. They thought the Doom association made them free to attack whoever they wanted. Edited June 1, 2016 by Sephiroth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Were the people who joined AAs to get in on the winning side of the curbstomp required to stay? Edited June 1, 2016 by Thrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Chimaera said: Watch out man, I don't think you're allowed to say anything remotely resembling the truth around here. Shake it like a salt shaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Thrash said: Were the people who joined AAs to get in on the winning side of the curbstomp required to stay? Dear Bob, don't make me stick around during peacetime. Not when the noose is so close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus1082 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Sounds like him whining those who fought aren't telling him what he wants to hear for the reason. DK `s biggest problem was some of the alliances they supported, such as SNX and Kashmir were unpopular & overly aggressive. They thought the Doom association made them free to attack whoever they wanted. You of all people would most definately recognize whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sephiroth said: DK `s biggest problem was some of the alliances they supported, such as SNX and Kashmir were unpopular & overly aggressive. They thought the Doom association made them free to attack whoever they wanted. Kashmir and Doom Squad/Doom Kingdom have been allies since long before the Doom War. In fact, I knew the people at Kashmir when I was the leader of The Javahouse League (who merged with Anarchy Inc. to become Last Call). That is how I met Lord Hershey, as Doom Squad was also allied to Kashmir at the time. So my friendship with Kashmir actually predates my involvement with doomsphere. Most people had not ever heard of tJL, so it was hardly an alliance anyone would treaty just to be free to attack whoever they want. I don't believe Doom Squad was that well known at the time either. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that what motivated Kashmir to remain as allies to Doom Kingdom was friendship and had nothing to do with realpolitik considerations. At our largest, Doom Kingdom was around fifty members. Hardly a powerhouse on our own. In fact, If a group wants to ally with an alliance that could give the group cover to do as they pleased as you are suggesting above regarding Kashmir, look to those alliances in Oculus. I am also not saying there is anything wrong with taking into account the strength and political standing of an alliance when deciding who to seek a treaty relationship with. What I am saying is that in the case of Kashmir, I have no doubt that wasn't their interest.. Edited June 2, 2016 by White Chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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