Sephiroth Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Congrats on peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Republic Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Too quick for my liking but its a victory nonetheless. Thanks for the fun SNX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Too quick for my liking but its a victory nonetheless. Thanks for the fun SNX! Its what happens when Junka is forced to eat humble pie, when allies go "optional baby" :p Edited April 9, 2016 by the rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Its what happens when Junka is forced to eat humble pie, when allies go "optional baby" :P A short war is what happens when your allies don't back you up? Strange logic there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 A short war is what happens when your allies don't back you up? Strange logic there. FTW triggers on a band wagon, does nothing on a pre-empt. coward logic to you, Canik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anadaric Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 It was a good fight. o/ Polar o/ SNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonso Quixano Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Though, did he learn his lesson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 A short war is what happens when your allies don't back you up? Strange logic there. Our allies have been exceptional, and have assisted us wherever we requested it. For example, look at Mogar's war screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 At least now I have targets and not just tech raids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=800742 Whatever you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=800742Whatever you say. We can all cherrypick arguments dude, let's not even start that !@#$. You pick the one and only war on Mogar's war screen who is outdamaging him lol ..... Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=800742 Whatever you say. Whatever I say. Yes, now you're getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) A short war is what happens when your allies don't back you up? Strange logic there. Junka bent over and surrendered, if his allies were in he wouldn't of bent over so soon. http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=800742 Whatever you say. I remember out damaging Mogar too, good times. Edited April 9, 2016 by the rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Junka bent over and surrendered, if his allies were in he wouldn't of bent over so soon. SNX did have support from allies. If they didn't, you really think Polar would've agreed to peace so soon? xD Junka could have been stubborn and prideful, he could have escalated the war but he instead swallowed his pride, showed restraint and did what's best for both SNX and it's allies. Although he did take a bit of convincing, he was very prepared for an extended war. Point is - his allies didn't just say "optional baby", and he didn't admit defeat because he had no support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheListener Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 SNX did have support from allies. If they didn't, you really think Polar would've agreed to peace so soon? I'm Not sure if you're dense or just completely and totally ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 SNX did have support from allies. If they didn't, you really think Polar would've agreed to peace so soon? xD If Polar was scared of SNX's allies then they wouldn't of declared on SNX. All the world saw was SNX's allies pretending the war wasn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If Polar was scared of SNX's allies then they wouldn't of declared on SNX. All the world saw was SNX's allies pretending the war wasn't happening. And a pre-empt war at that. Which is fine, as truth is the rebel and I had 100 tech bet on whether or not DK would defend SNX and needless to say, he had a lot more faith in DK than I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qazzian Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 You pick the one and only war on Mogar's war screen who is outdamaging him lol ..... Good work. Not only that, but the other nations fighting Mogar's target had more tech, meaning they were likely doing the nuking. It's amazing what a week of not being able to launch nukes every day will do for your damage ratios... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 If Polar was scared of SNX's allies then they wouldn't of declared on SNX. All the world saw was SNX's allies pretending the war wasn't happening. I wouldn't say they were scared, they just didn't have much interest expanding the war through FTW. Why waste pixels over something that isn't even your goal? *shrugs* My point still stands, Junka had support. He didn't look around and be like "Oh crap no one is with me, better surrender" like you suggest. I can understand how it may seem that way, but it simply isn't true. And a pre-empt war at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Which is fine, as truth is the rebel and I had 100 tech bet on whether or not DK would defend SNX and needless to say, he had a lot more faith in DK than I did Indeed, I will make payment at a suitable time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Alot of interesting replies, unfortunately most are very predictable, and seem to rotate around: 1. Idealizing damage ratios 2. Conspiracy theories Personally I find both irrelevant. Then there are some hard facts: Mogar bandwaggoning during the war, RIA's treaty being cancelled, Polar not pushing ridiculous terms, SNX not requesting kinetic action against Polar. Of course people with an axe to grind find snide remarks and making tall tales more useful than the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I'm Not sure if you're dense or just completely and totally ignorant.In all honesty, that statement could be applied to yourself on this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I commend Supernova X's allies on the unprecedented level of moral support shown throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) I commend Supernova X's allies on the unprecedented level of moral support shown throughout. You could take notes on such an admirable showing... Perhaps triggering the 30th treaty isn't the way planet bob should function. I applaud DKs peace dove efforts as I am now 100 tech richer Edited April 9, 2016 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Nice to see peace. o/ Polar o/ SNX (I'm not a diplomat by trade) :P LOL! For anyone who wonders if Junka has learned something, please note the above. I have been in the roles of both his enemy and his ally now and as far as I'm concerned. the above is the closest to an "admission of defeat" that I've wanted to hear said by him for a log time and in BOTH roles :D Very few of us are good at everything. Delegate that which you do not do well, Junka, to someone in your alliance who does - that is the secret. Oh well... !!! It was a nice war. The only disappointing issue is that it finished before having an official name... It's a bit sad when wars don't have a name. What law is there that says a war can not be named after the fact (or that it has to involve multiple alliances for that matter)? To the victor goes the spoils. What do you want to name it? Seems to me the world should have more wars like this were personal or small grudges should be kept in control of said AAs to work it out like this one with no need of always wars being all global and just being for the LOL's ... again well done to both i am sure a lot of respect has been earned around the planet. Agreed. Though, did he learn his lesson? See my point above. Junka bent over and surrendered, if his allies were in he wouldn't of bent over so soon. Anyone with this point of view is missing a very important piece of information. Junka (like it or not, NpO) truly admires NpO and from what he has told me plenty of times (to the point where I've told him something along the lines of "I can make up my own mind about NpO, thank you very much" a few times now) was happy when a member there. He left NpO after being asked to go back to SNX by people in SNX and not because he wasn't happy in NpO. This isn't to say that he got along with everyone in NpO equally, but not everyone gets along with everyone else even in small alliances. Thus, yeah, when NpO later attacked SNX, he was angry and (even though NpO and SNX are not allies and had not been for around half a year) felt somewhat double crossed. However, he listened to the advice of allies and decided to not allow his initial emotions to control his long term actions. This is a necessary skill for a good leader of an alliance. I said it before but I will again - Junka did not ask Doom Kingdom or (to the best of my knowledge) FTW to back SNX on a military level. Frankly, from what he says to me, he wants a better relationship between SNX and NpO. Well, taking that into account, his decision to keep this from expanding was well thought out and arguably the right move. Edited April 10, 2016 by White Chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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