Rebel Virginia Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I am only a member with literally no say in alliance affairs--I'm not that active other than doing my duty. For myself, I wouldn't contact you because I simply wouldn't care to reassure you. And yet Polar keeps wondering why no one truly trusts it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Reginbacher Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 And yet Polar keeps wondering why no one truly trusts it. I think you missed my point. I simply never liked Margrave's postings or persona. Nothing official, just personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaTeMuP Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 And yet Polar keeps wondering why no one truly trusts it. Interestingly enough, Joe Stupid reached out to me directly once he heard we may be hitting NSO, I told him it was fake. I didn't get the same from Margrave, but instead heard from an ally, that Margrave had been contacted by Holton. We didn't get the same courtesy from Kashmir. If we really were interested in hitting Kashmir, Margrave accepting information from a spy, and not notifying us about it, is a pretty much a well accepted CB, that we haven't acted on, nor are we interested in. Please continue with the conspiracy theories, as I get much enjoyment out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I think you missed my point. I simply never liked Margrave's postings or persona. Nothing official, just personal. Me neither! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) We didn't get the same courtesy from Kashmir. If we really were interested in hitting Kashmir, Margrave accepting information from a spy, and not notifying us about it, is a pretty much a well accepted CB, To be fair, you'd then have to declare on half of CN since a large portion of the world were accepting that same information without notifying you. :P Edited March 30, 2016 by Van Hoo III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'd support that. Let's go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) To be fair, you'd then have to declare on half of CN since a large portion of the world were accepting that same information without notifying you. :P It's some mind bendingly nonsensical logic, and the fact that a ruler of a leading alliance considers that a legitimate CB (Even though alliances have set people up by doing this exact same move before) tells me he's playing the game by Pre-Karma logic. Watch that that doesn't come back and bite you in the ass; people who wear jackboots tend to get theirs in the end*. *Unless you're IRON, and then you just backstab and Coalition-Slide forever! Edited March 30, 2016 by Margrave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 It's some mind bendingly nonsensical logic, and the fact that a ruler of a leading alliance considers that a legitimate CB (Even though alliances have set people up by doing this exact same move before) tells me he's playing the game by Pre-Karma logic. It's actually the exact same CB that NPO used to hit Ordo Verde, that kicked off Karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 It's actually the exact same CB that NPO used to hit Ordo Verde, that kicked off Karma.Not a great example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Not a great example. Because it's not convenient to your narrative, because it's different when it happens to someone you don't like, or because Kashmir is a bunch of dirty bags? Vote all because you can; if we're going to play the game like we did Pre-Karma, might as well rez every ancient meme you can lay hands on...sounds like a brilliant political move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Because it's not convenient to your narrative, because it's different when it happens to someone you don't like, or because Kashmir is a bunch of dirty bags? Vote all because you can; if we're going to play the game like we did Pre-Karma, might as well rez every ancient meme you can lay hands on...sounds like a brilliant political move.I don't even know what you're talking about. You must have me confused for someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) And this people is a prime example of why you shouldn't be like Kashmir: You wind up: 1) blowing with the wind when possible 2) complaining about other people having treaties 3) when all else fairs, bring up pre karma rhetoric in a desperate attempt to weasel out of harm's way For goodness sake Kashmir, just come out of PM and take your beating already. This is nauseating. Edited March 31, 2016 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 And this people is a prime example of why you shouldn't be like Kashmir: You wind up: 1) blowing with the wind when possible 2) complaining about other people having treaties 3) when all else fairs, bring up pre karma rhetoric in a desperate attempt to weasel out of harm's way For goodness sake Kashmir, just come out of PM and take your beating already. This is nauseating. Don't you have a peace negotiation to go re-handle? When all else fairs, don't fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 And this people is a prime example of why you shouldn't be like Kashmir: You wind up: 1) blowing with the wind when possible 2) complaining about other people having treaties 3) when all else fairs, bring up pre karma rhetoric in a desperate attempt to weasel out of harm's way For goodness sake Kashmir, just come out of PM and take your beating already. This is nauseating. Do you remember when Monster's Inc had members in the double digits, a protector who had the clout to keep them from getting rolled, and you weren't the laughingstock of the majority of the community? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 If you were as adept at checking alliance pages as the nimrods on your AA were at defeat alerting nations you had personally signed peace with, you'd actually find that Kashmir is out of peace mode and ready for whatever will come our way. Of course lady fate won't include water trash like MInc and its impressive 2 nuke stockpile. :lol1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 If you were as adept at checking alliance pages as the nimrods on your AA were at defeat alerting nations you had personally signed peace with, you'd actually find that Kashmir is out of peace mode and ready for whatever will come our way. Of course lady fate won't include water trash like MInc and its impressive 2 nuke stockpile. :lol1: oh no... a picture from google. How will I ever get over the trauma... Kashmir has failed the very thing they set out to be, and that was 'differen't'. Preach to planet Bob how 'cool' it is to be treatiless but all it's really made you is a moderate-neutral with the occasional military band-wagoning. While you shout loud-and-proud how great it is, the reality is that all it leads to is treaty-web discussions, and how unfair it is for your alliance. If you hate the treaty web so bad, then do something about it- mumbling endless discussions isn't going to change what other alliances do- and judging by your 'military' PM tactic- I'd say it's failed you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 oh no... a picture from google. How will I ever get over the trauma... Kashmir has failed the very thing they set out to be, and that was 'differen't'. Preach to planet Bob how 'cool' it is to be treatiless but all it's really made you is a moderate-neutral with the occasional military band-wagoning. While you shout loud-and-proud how great it is, the reality is that all it leads to is treaty-web discussions, and how unfair it is for your alliance. If you hate the treaty web so bad, then do something about it- mumbling endless discussions isn't going to change what other alliances do- and judging by your 'military' PM tactic- I'd say it's failed you. If only we weren't so purposeless! If only our singular goal was to top the casualty count. My, we would be grand! We would be MInc. :psyduck: You project headache inducing fragmented thoughts and musings on us. How will I get over this? I suppose I'll just have to find consolation in your extreme failings on every qualifying and quantifiable level (other than casualties!) and a reputation that rivals Methrage's. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Margrave and Hitchcock are clearly competing for #AngriestPoster2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Kashmir has failed the very thing they set out to be, and that was 'differen't'. Preach to planet Bob how 'cool' it is to be treatiless but all it's really made you is a moderate-neutral with the occasional military band-wagoning. While you shout loud-and-proud how great it is, the reality is that all it leads to is treaty-web discussions, and how unfair it is for your alliance. If you hate the treaty web so bad, then do something about it- mumbling endless discussions isn't going to change what other alliances do- and judging by your 'military' PM tactic- I'd say it's failed you. This is all true but I am still trying to figure out what it has to do with Holtons goodbye. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 This is all true but I am still trying to figure out what it has to do with Holtons goodbye. Oh well. more to do with margrave's pleas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrecht Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 more to do with margrave's pleasoh you, you and your erroneous classifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 oh you, you and your erroneous classifications. next time bear calvary unit plots with Kashmir- remember they aren't reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaTeMuP Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 This is all true but I am still trying to figure out what it has to do with Holtons goodbye. Oh well. Holton was expelled for leaking information to Margrave and NSO, he subsequently applied to NSO and was denied, so he deleted and posted this thread. NSO was the only recipient of this operation to ask about it, and get the truth. The Kasmir went into PM and complained we didn't tell them about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 'complained' is an understatement imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Good bye Holton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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