Unknown Smurf Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can we stay on topic for once meth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxHouseArrestXx Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Never good to see an alliance go, but at least you are going out in a bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I... don't really feel anyone has considered Oculus to be a genuine hegemony, if there was a common collective interest beyond merely staying on the winning side there'd be an argument to be made, but since there's clearly several power groups who don't like one another only being held together by Letum, we'll see cowardice and TPF being the main focus while Valhalla burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can we stay on topic for once meth? Alright, I'm done. Good luck & have fun to everyone involved however this ends up. Shame to see two once very close allies have had their relations deteriorate to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) I... don't really feel anyone has considered Oculus to be a genuine hegemony, if there was a common collective interest beyond merely staying on the winning side there'd be an argument to be made, but since there's clearly several power groups who don't like one another only being held together by Letum, we'll see cowardice and TPF being the main focus while Valhalla burns. VE has always struck me as holding their honor as being very important. So who knows, maybe they will surprise. I think a moment where Doom hits their allies is what people have been waiting for to see how they react and then decide. Although I doubt TPF wants us distracting way from their war, since this is their moment in the spot light. Edit; Meant to edit this into my last post, my bad. Edited February 15, 2016 by Sephiroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Some of you are trying too hard. It won't have the desired result. lol On topic: Sad to say any "old school" alliance go. Have fun on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I hope allies are not brought in. This should be a family squabble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I hope allies are not brought in. This should be a family squabble. I do agree with you there. Even if not bringing allies in usually isn't the norm these days, with the long history between TPF & NPO; I think NPO can take on an alliance the size of TPF out respect for their long service before getting rolled in the last war. I remember seeing TPF's unwavering loyalty after the Karma War, as most of NPO's allies had left them; TPF kept fighting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I do agree with you there. Even if not bringing allies in usually isn't the norm these days, with the long history between TPF & NPO; I think NPO can take on an alliance the size of TPF out respect for their long service before getting rolled in the last war. I remember seeing TPF's unwavering loyalty after the Karma War, as most of NPO's allies had left them; TPF kept fighting for them. Too late for that. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vellocet Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Overly dramatic much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Too late for that. lol I think TPF would likely peace those raids out if it meant getting their one on one with NPO, but you're probably right. I think in a one on one, TPF & NPO are more likely to reach some mutual respect than if TPF gets rolled hard by Oculus again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) .Dude, every thread doesn't need to be about you. No one cares what you think their alliance should do. I can't wait until the day i am in your range so i can pound some sense into you Edited February 15, 2016 by rileyaddaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty of the Herm Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 As sad as I am to see it come to this it is really unfortunate TPF had to go out with a temper tantrum, and not accept responsibility for it's own actions. At least when we've made bad decisions we've owned up to them and paid dearly for them pretty much every time. I guess hoping TPF could do the same was too much to expect. Regardless happy hunting TPF! o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty of the Herm Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Good luck TPF As we all know, NPO wont have the balls to go at it alone so I am sure it will be yet another dog pile, guessing 10 vs 1 here yet again I'm pretty sure we didn't have to have any assistance fighting Minc in the last war and last time I checked we fought DH by ourselves back in the DH/NPO War so I'm not exactly sure what basis you have to claim we only fight in wars where we have extreme number advantages, not to mention fighting off 26 alliances with TPF in the Karma War, but hey it doesn't exactly help your rhetoric to point out actual facts now does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunzzz Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'm pretty sure we didn't have to have any assistance fighting Minc in the last war and last time I checked we fought DH by ourselves back in the DH/NPO War so I'm not exactly sure what basis you have to claim we only fight in wars where we have extreme number advantages, not to mention fighting off 26 alliances with TPF in the Karma War, but hey it doesn't exactly help your rhetoric to point out actual facts now does it?he's probably talking more of modern day npo, who we can all agree that its just a shadow compared to npo back then. Hey at least you guys fought m inc by yourselves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure we didn't have to have any assistance fighting Minc in the last war and last time I checked we fought DH by ourselves back in the DH/NPO War so I'm not exactly sure what basis you have to claim we only fight in wars where we have extreme number advantages, not to mention fighting off 26 alliances with TPF in the Karma War, but hey it doesn't exactly help your rhetoric to point out actual facts now does it?*steps out of the tardis* People around here like bringing up old facts. I got one for ya, you lost to lolegion. Edited February 15, 2016 by rileyaddaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Longworth Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I figure the next year of terrorizing lower level nations should do some justice. I look forward to my farewell message in this thread in a year. One good turn deserved another For Moo, may Pacifica live forever! I wish I had your motivation levels. Admin knows that I once did. There was a time when revenge was the only thing that motivated me. Now, sometimes, I feel like I'm just addicted to pressing buttons, afraid of how I would feel if I stop. Perma-War takes a lot of motivation. You seem to want to go out of this world in a final moral crusade. (I'm not saying that you don't have the resources; most of you do) Quitting and bridge-burning, with a long-term--but finite--plan of revenge. . . It has a sense of cognitive dissonance, does it not? What do you even hope to achieve in the end? *shrugs*. . . Some people choose to accept the absurdities of this world. NPO chose survival. I guess, you've finally picked suicide. This world would be a sadder place if you left for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'm pretty sure we didn't have to have any assistance fighting Minc in the last war are you really bragging about being able to fight off a micro that's like 12 ansand last time I checked we fought DH by ourselves back in the DH/NPO War so I'm not exactly sure what basis you have to claim we only fight in wars where we have extreme number advantages, not to mention fighting off 26 alliances with TPF in the Karma War, but hey it doesn't exactly help your rhetoric to point out actual facts now does it?lmao as if you had a choice in either of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Perma-War takes a lot of motivation. You seem to want to go out of this world in a final moral crusade. (I'm not saying that you don't have the resources; most of you do) Quitting and bridge-burning, with a long-term--but finite--plan of revenge. . . It has a sense of cognitive dissonance, does it not? What do you even hope to achieve in the end? Destroying as much of your NS as possible, would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty of the Herm Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 are you really bragging about being able to fight off a micro that's like 12 ans lmao as if you had a choice in either of those I'm not bragging about anything just pointing out utter fallacies in his rhetoric. It doesn't matter if we didn't have a choice in those wars. Both wars were meant to utterly destroy us, and we're still here regardless. Only two thirds of DH are still around, and we've outlasted about 70-80% of the Karma Coalition as well. So I'm pretty sure we'll be fine either way, at least we accept responsibility for when we've made bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrecht Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 The Phoenix Federation, it was a blast being allied to you back in the day. Steadfast to a fault.Wish things had been different over the years that went by. I did say that you were investing in a NPA.Respect, and Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Happy valentines day May this day bring love, joy and happiness to everyone involved. Edited February 15, 2016 by shahenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Although with your timing on this, you probably gave Umbrella/VE & others in Oculus the excuse they need not to assist Valhalla. So kind of bad timing, although its doubtful they would have come in guns blazing for Valhalla regardless. They could still assist Valhalla if they want to prove they assist their allies (Valhalla got attacked first & all of Oculus isn't really needed for you guys), but that would be expecting to much out of them most likely. :\ Wait, Valhalla got attacked?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keelah Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Stay on topic, and you know who you are, or warns will be handed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenann Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Strangely, I am flattered that if TPF had to choose a way to go out in their blaze they chose us. You know that we will meet you on the battle field and give you guys the casualties that you desire. Whether this be a short war or one that drags on for a time I am happy to have known TPF before and I am happy to be the blade you chose to end it with. Fight well TPF o/ Edited February 15, 2016 by Brenann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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