Rayvon Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 And you'll build a larger warchest with the extra income from the population at higher infrastructure. I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with the alliance building tactics we use. Wasted potential. You may be ok with it, that's ok for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Then sit at 4k infra and buy wonders while you farm tech out. You can became a powerhouse in the lower tier while doing your job and building a massive warchest. Pure BS excuses. I broke protocol as a Polar member by focusing on military wonders at 3000 infra. Best decision I ever made. :nuke: :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackatron Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 We export more than we import, however we mostly deal internally ... I'm not sure if you were trying to infer something based on us having 2 whole permanent sellers .. Or if that was just some sort of not-thought-out quip in thinking he was disagreeing with you with his remark that supports the opening lines of your previous post ... or if I'm just entirely misreading the course of dialogue here .... Money sent: from NSO to NSO $1,734,000,006 from NSO to others $585,000,000 Tech sent: from NSO to NSO 54,350 from NSO to others 12,600 Money received from other alliances $501,000,000 Tech sent to NSO from other alliances 3200 (From :wub: RI5 :wub: since January 1st, 2016; should be noted some aid transfers could be simply one-way aid for various FA purposes like war aid) (edit: got my in and out backwards lol) My post was not meant to be a quip at NSO's expense, I was simply surprised that supposedly only 2 NSO nations are considered permanent tech sellers. I also happened to know that NSO buys a bit from TTK, and from a couple of other alliances. If your table is accurate then my assumption was incorrect, just goes to show that anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeguy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 And you'll build a larger warchest with the extra income from the population at higher infrastructure. I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with the alliance building tactics we use. Well, no one can argue that you haven't seen positive results from using tech banks. Being #1 score and all... I just feel bad for these nations whose growth is being hindered. They may not even realize that they are being taken advantage of. It's not required that every alliance have designated tech banks, in order to be a superpower. There is always the option to receive tech from outside sources, and allow all NPO nations the opportunity to grow. Not only do I feel bad for these individual nations, but for NPO as a whole. NPO's growth as a whole is being hindered by these tech farms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta2642 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Right. No, you have this backwards. The tech banks make the upper tier stronger. Without them, the upper tier doesn't have enough tech to stay competitive. The thing about the banks is that damage done to them is largely superfluous. Assuming they have a billion or so, they can just bounce back to 8K infra postwar and keep on pumping out tech. The weird thing is that quite a few of these tech banks (even some of the slightly older ones) don't seem to have massive warchests or are even flat out broke. I even noticed some of my former foes randomly drop from 100 to 0 tech AFTER their wars ended, and after periodic spy ops over the next week or two they didn't gain in money or seem to get any other benefit at all, which was somewhat strange. EDIT: for clarification, when I say "after their wars ended" I mean "they were not at war with anyone for the duration of the observation" Edited April 17, 2016 by Delta2642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I guess not only does NPO need help from Non Grata to try to handle a handful of us, but now they're getting help from Atlas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 define "need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 define "need" Here's the first one from Webster, if it helps you. Want; occasion for something; necessity; a state that requires supply or relief. It sometimes expresses urgent want; pressing exigency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 ok so you're wrong then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge X Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 To: Judge X From: Alexio15 Date: 4/13/2016 10:38:09 AM Subject: RE: Jagger Message: We was asked to assist by our allies yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge X Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 ok so you're wrong then Well damn... I'm pretty you would be the one that is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 People with treaties sometimes activate them. News at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well damn... I'm pretty you would be the one that is wrong...I'm pretty you don't know a grammar isanyways, asking an ally to do something does not mean you need that ally to do it. I don't know if you know this, but NPO is currently involved in another war. Perhaps they're expecting that one to blow up if it isn't resolved soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 LIke when they can't handle a situation themselves, even when they already massively outnumber the other side. What a train wreck of a place this has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm glad to see Atlas join the fray, kudos to sending a nation at me with no SDI, no MP, but a CIA. He'll be a bit shorter in a week. Really not sure what the NGer was thinking declaring 3 wars with 1.5 million dollars in his warchest either. Hopefully I get more NPO action soon. 2 months in, less than 30 percent of my warchest gone. 5300 tech that was bound for higher ups in Occulus destroyed, 27000 infra that will need to be re-bought. 100+ million spied away. Multiply that by 20 or so and we're having a nice time on the way out the door. 4-6 months to go for me, likely more for some others in our group. Edited April 14, 2016 by Vol Navy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge X Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, I'm glad to see Atlas join the fray, kudos to sending a nation at me with no SDI, no MP, but a CIA. He'll be a bit shorter in a week. Really not sure what the NGer was thinking declaring 3 wars with 1.5 million dollars in his warchest either. Hopefully I get more NPO action soon. 2 months in, less than 30 percent of my warchest gone. 5300 tech that was bound for higher ups in Occulus destroyed, 27000 infra that will need to be re-bought. 100+ million spied away. Multiply that by 20 or so and we're having a nice time on the way out the door. 4-6 months to go for me, likely more for some others in our group. And that son is fire! I'm down only a little over $200 mill! Such a long painful road full of pine cones and porcupines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caustic Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Here's the first one from Webster, if it helps you. Want; occasion for something; necessity; a state that requires supply or relief. It sometimes expresses urgent want; pressing exigency. Oh no cupcake, we offered our extermination services free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward I Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, no one can argue that you haven't seen positive results from using tech banks. Being #1 score and all... I just feel bad for these nations whose growth is being hindered. They may not even realize that they are being taken advantage of. It's not required that every alliance have designated tech banks, in order to be a superpower. There is always the option to receive tech from outside sources, and allow all NPO nations the opportunity to grow. Not only do I feel bad for these individual nations, but for NPO as a whole. NPO's growth as a whole is being hindered by these tech farms. Why do you say that nations that permanently sell or send out tech are being taken advantage of? To the best of my knowledge, every tech bank in NPO volunteered to be one. And since, practically speaking, there really isn't an outside source that can supply anywhere near enough tech to use an appreciable number of NPO's upper tier slots, what makes you think our collective growth is hindered by having a stable, domestic supply of tech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge X Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Why do you say that nations that permanently sell or send out tech are being taken advantage of? To the best of my knowledge, every tech bank in NPO volunteered to be one. And since, practically speaking, there really isn't an outside source that can supply anywhere near enough tech to use an appreciable number of NPO's upper tier slots, what makes you think our collective growth is hindered by having a stable, domestic supply of tech? Because they are weak and cannot defend themselves. Because you have to farm out defense to your meat shields, when if they were just give formulas of buying wonders would be able to do both AND more efficiently! I mean it is entertaining that none of you are getting it through your thick skulls, but then again yall are everything that is killing Bob, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Oh no cupcake, we offered our extermination services free of charge. Never worked before cupcake. Won't work now. But I understand what it's like being an NPO meatshield. Believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qazzian Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Well, no one can argue that you haven't seen positive results from using tech banks. Being #1 score and all... I just feel bad for these nations whose growth is being hindered. They may not even realize that they are being taken advantage of. It's not required that every alliance have designated tech banks, in order to be a superpower. There is always the option to receive tech from outside sources, and allow all NPO nations the opportunity to grow. Not only do I feel bad for these individual nations, but for NPO as a whole. NPO's growth as a whole is being hindered by these tech farms. Tech banks are tech banks as long as they want to be. I was, until I decided I wanted to increase my size. It's that simple. Some people choose to stay as tech banks, and that's their call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellBade Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Damn if only TPF was this tenacious last war... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Damn if only TPF was this tenacious last war... In all fairness, they were fighting Oculus in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Reiffenstein Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 It's a pretty sorry state of affairs when NPO has to ask a relatively harmless small alliance like Atlas to come in and serve as meatshields for NPO's lower tier, which can't fight worth a hoot. Talk about having feet of clay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSatan Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 In all fairness, they were fighting Oculus in its entirety. And once again the meat shields run to master's call.... Its pretty piss poor when the #1 AA , has to ask help for a 29 nation AA attacking them. For those sitting on the fence watching this. This could be the time for you to make a difference and join us in the fight against NPO. (Just putting it out there is all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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