Lord Hitchcock Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 NPO also has 130 nations below 13k NS whose sole purpose is to send tech without a nuke in sight. Food for thought. hence why NPO got pissy early in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSocialism Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 So you are willing to spend 500k roughly to nuke a lower tier after yourself get sent there? In order to do damage that one aid deal will buy back, and plus some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 So you are willing to spend 500k roughly to nuke a lower tier after yourself get sent there? In order to do damage that one aid deal will buy back, and plus some. Naturally, for any alliance that price would be deemed worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) So you are willing to spend 500k roughly to nuke a lower tier after yourself get sent there? In order to do damage that one aid deal will buy back, and plus some. By all means use these precious aid slots to aid these lower tier nations. All 130 of them. Better to send aid than receive tech isn't it? ;) Edited October 12, 2015 by Charles the Tyrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Yeah, so if all nukes were sent toward Minc, not realistic but more of an example, Minc would need to restock 28,126 nukes. Which he also said laid, not thrown, so the numbers are pretty much a guess, but. Can all of these nukes be actually sent to Minc though? What works for the upper tier works just as well for the lower tier. Edited October 12, 2015 by Charles the Tyrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSocialism Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Then what is the ultimate goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Then what is the ultimate goal? Do you actually think Minc believe they can win this war by dominating in the lower tier? Of course not. But I presume that their actions aren't based around winning but more so about harassment and weakening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Happy nuking MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan100 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yay...random micros attacking us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I sense it was likely in the context that the New Pacific Order historically is where the majority of gifted players come from and the most efficient alliance internally. Nah, I think he meant that NPO gets what they want at this point in time. And yes I do agree that NPO is super efficient and has plenty of talent to boot. I also believe the OP acknowledges NPO's arrogance and means to help straighten them out. Anyhow, welcome to the fray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Who are these monsters INC poeple and why aren't any of them attacking me? *snorts* I'm not angry. I just want make nation go boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 i completely support harassing pacifican tech sellersjust wish you hadn't done it in a way that caused us to have to drop your protectorateyou probably will, too, later, but have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantha Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's a simple war really- we have our declarations off- and as it stands (see for yourself) for every 1 nuke NPO sets off to us, we return 5 to them. Of course we will have higher damage ratios than NPO- auctor pointed this out a long time ago because we are 'smaller' so less to damage on our end. but we've followed the same broken WW charts for quite sometime... NPO can always call in back up- which as junka pointed out- yes, our heads would explode with that sort of ego. It's simple really, NPO got caught with their pants down... war for a couple days and their lower tier is sitting in defcon 5 thinking they wouldn't get hit, hence why 14 of them are in anarchy now (from a 'dumb micro') I'm sure after NPO explains their justification for having their "arm twisted" to sign off for hitting TPF they can then turn around and worry about why an 11-man AA out damaged them before they cried for help... which with this: Branimir, on 11 Oct 2015 - 3:42 PM, said: Well, people could always help out Monster Inc instead of making smart ass comments. (NPO getting frustrated) it was well worth the entry cheers! This is seriously the best laugh I have had all day!! Thank you so very much! :awesome: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadin Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I applaud the brave warriors of Monsters Inc for standing tall against the forces of tyranny. o7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asero Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) After the second decree of Oculus, it became apparent that in the back of many people's minds, if you are not in Oculus, you run the risk of being a 3rd, 4th, or even 5th decree. And Monsters Inc is very small and we would not have been on that radar, however, we live on the same planet and it is not a world we want to live in. So we were left with two options; complain about it or do something about it. In the grand scale our war efforts are practically irrelevant... the key word there being 'practically', we will do what we can. M Inc declares on Oculus, specifically targeting the head AA, NPO. The late DOW was to prevent tech supplies from entering PM. o/ war Now i Know the reason. LH I Leave Minc because you didnt tell me long live o/Minc (KILLUMINATI) Edited October 12, 2015 by Asero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asero Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) double post Edited October 12, 2015 by Asero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 no worries, we are literally teaching your lower tier not to spy unless they have 70% odds... 90% is ideal. what a waste... strongest AA in-game and a terrible lower tier surrounded by white picked fences... and we welcome them to the ghetto :D as it stands, until NPO the almighty calls for backup... for every nuke you lay on us, we lay 5 on you. terribleExcept for the fact I was experimenting with spies which I told you I was, but you wouldn't put that message up would you now? Try and twist whatever you want, you look cute. For such a poor lower tier it's a shame it took less than 24hours to anarchy you. Welcome to the meat grinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Except for the fact I was experimenting with spies which I told you I was, but you wouldn't put that message up would you now? Try and twist whatever you want, you look cute. For such a poor lower tier it's a shame it took less than 24hours to anarchy you. Welcome to the meat grinder. I remember the first time I sent someone into anarchy too. Well actually I don't, it was a very long time ago but congrats anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I remember the first time I sent someone into anarchy too. Well actually I don't, it was a very long time ago but congrats anyway. I remember the first time I sent someone into anarchy too. Well actually I don't, it was a very long time ago but congrats anyway. How does it feel having your nose following Lord Hitchcock, troll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 They nuke neptune once, he nukes 3... They nuke jonesing once, he nukes 3... They nuke hombre once he nukes four... Meanwhile salty nukes three, doug nukes three and super tramp exchanges nukes... Aka, your lower tier isn't equipped and it's why we will outdamage you My own experience of attacking NPO (when I was in LSF and we declared in defence of SNX) is that this is the way it works for the first few weeks. We had a positive damage ratio so were by that measure "winning". After a few weeks when the nukes start to run out and more wonder heavy nations fall down into the lower ranges it starts to get harder. I think LSF ended that with the damage share being something like 53% NPO 47% LSF (someone can check the thread if they're bothered to and get the exact number) so we "lost". I doubt NPO even noticed and so it will be with you guys. Sure, you'll give a few noobs a hard time but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) How does it feel having your nose following Lord Hitchcock, troll? Oh I don't know. Haven't really thought about it yet. I guess the idea could have some merit, what do you think? Edited October 12, 2015 by Charles the Tyrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 How does it feel having your nose following Lord Hitchcock, troll? Seems you're a big fan of the crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) My own experience of attacking NPO (when I was in LSF and we declared in defence of SNX) is that this is the way it works for the first few weeks. We had a positive damage ratio so were by that measure "winning". After a few weeks when the nukes start to run out and more wonder heavy nations fall down into the lower ranges it starts to get harder. I think LSF ended that with the damage share being something like 53% NPO 47% LSF (someone can check the thread if they're bothered to and get the exact number) so we "lost". I doubt NPO even noticed and so it will be with you guys. Sure, you'll give a few noobs a hard time but that's about it. I'm curious how this will work out with this war though. During same war Polaris fought to a white peace as our middle tier depressed into our lower tier, and it was welcome backup for nations like myself who were already fighting in the lower tier from the get-go (enemy wondered nations were busy and I had the chance to hit enemy tech production more consistently). LSF had the difficult part of the fight since alot of SNX nations who could have depressed into the lower tier were in peacemode for the whole war, so LSF didn't have the same kind of backup that we might expect Minc to have from MI6 should the war become a long one. Edited October 12, 2015 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) My own experience of attacking NPO (when I was in LSF and we declared in defence of SNX) is that this is the way it works for the first few weeks. We had a positive damage ratio so were by that measure "winning". After a few weeks when the nukes start to run out and more wonder heavy nations fall down into the lower ranges it starts to get harder. I think LSF ended that with the damage share being something like 53% NPO 47% LSF (someone can check the thread if they're bothered to and get the exact number) so we "lost". I doubt NPO even noticed and so it will be with you guys. Sure, you'll give a few noobs a hard time but that's about it. This. And as stated in the OP, our contribution is small in the grand scheme. What we have learned in the past- and one difference between us and LSF is that we have a few more lower tier nukes. The way the war is going it's not the same situation you were in where wonder heavy nations traveled down as fast- our top tier guys plan on leveling down to the 10k areas- as they aren't planning on re-buying infra or making up lost tech unless it's for nuke purchases. with that, we have an open array of tech farms from NPO who will endlessly slam their face into our wonder heavy nation's knees and repeat. Over a hundred of them and no nukes in sight. It's also why it was important for us to hit as early as possible, so that we would have more time in the lower tier without as many wonder heavy nations falling. our nuke trade offs, at least for the first couple of months will be in our favor and will cost NPO thousands of tech in the long run- it's our contribution against the current hegemony and the best we can do. TL:DR The earlier a micro hits, the more damage opportunities they have Edited October 12, 2015 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanth Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I remember the first time I sent someone into anarchy too. Well actually I don't, it was a very long time ago but congrats anyway. Dont make me call my Elawyers for using Strips imagery again in a minc thread :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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