Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Stat whore's put down those calculators and delete those spread sheets, Historian's here you go. Cybernations first million NS nation. Props Cuba !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I suspect this was not the first time he crossed the threshold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I suspect this was not the first time he crossed the threshold. Pretty sure it is, we've been watching for the last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 He's been able to be at 999,999 for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 He's been able to be at 999,999 for a while. I know mogar, I and a few my alliance mates have been keeping an eye on Cuba's nation for awhile now waiting for him to cross, this morning was the first time we saw him break the million mark, so I can say with 97% percent accuracy I'm correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I know mogar, I and a few my alliance mates have been keeping an eye on Cuba's nation for awhile now waiting for him to cross, this morning was the first time we saw him break the million mark, so I can say with 97% percent accuracy I'm correct. You been checking his rubbish too, like all good stalkers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Yes, because viewing a publically viewable nation that is able to be viewed without even logging in is tantamount to stalking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I'll play ! I'm here a long time, long before Cuba, so when History is about to be made on a planet I've lived for close to a decade, yes I took a special interest to spend 6 seconds a morning to stalk and build a bromance with the number 1 nation. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Why is I'm not surprised when someone calls free out on stalking? Should'a stuck with the opposite free, I hear they put better leftovers in the trash. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 haha... no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Congratulations l0c0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I believe he did surpass 1,000,000 however the game hadn't registered it properly and instead saw it as 999,999 NS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 If you break his NS down he's over 1mill. Has been for a bit (week-ish) Coding issue as Franz said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Moetato Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I ask this as an admitted filthy casual. But, how did the top few nations in this game get so disproportionately strong? We are all bound by the same mechanics, so it seems that older nations should be on similar levels. I understand wars change nation outcomes pretty significantly, but other than that it all seems pretty straight forward. Is it just that they have been throwing down monthly donations for years? Or is there something I'm missing?  Also I would be interested in seeing nation growth over the whole lifetime of some of those top nations. Is it possible to get nation strength charts that go back that far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I ask this as an admitted filthy casual. But, how did the top few nations in this game get so disproportionately strong? We are all bound by the same mechanics, so it seems that older nations should be on similar levels. I understand wars change nation outcomes pretty significantly, but other than that it all seems pretty straight forward. Is it just that they have been throwing down monthly donations for years? Or is there something I'm missing?  Also I would be interested in seeing nation growth over the whole lifetime of some of those top nations. Is it possible to get nation strength charts that go back that far? As a former political adversary of DBDC I would say that it's a simple fact that many/most upper tier nations lack balls and IF they are willing to fight, they only fight on the winning side of curbstomps. That's why they get big... while us producers fight their wars, they grow fat exploiting underpriced tech in peacetime, and hide in peacemode, desert, or otherwise run from costly wars. A couple years ago if the upper tier banded together against Cubaquerida and his gang, they wouldn't have gotten so big, but they didn't, and the fact that doomsphere has fought their way to supremacy against the same establishment that suppressed my place in politics (not to mention, they don't exploit tech producers and noobs at horrible rates) is why I solidly support them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 As a former political adversary of DBDC I would say that it's a simple fact that many/most upper tier nations lack balls and IF they are willing to fight, they only fight on the winning side of curbstomps. That's why they get big... while us producers fight their wars, they grow fat exploiting underpriced tech in peacetime, and hide in peacemode, desert, or otherwise run from costly wars. A couple years ago if the upper tier banded together against Cubaquerida and his gang, they wouldn't have gotten so big, but they didn't, and the fact that doomsphere has fought their way to supremacy against the same establishment that suppressed my place in politics (not to mention, they don't exploit tech producers and noobs at horrible rates) is why I solidly support them now. WC, this begs for a common man translation : Fuck... can't beat em, I will join them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I had assumed this thread was celebrating the 9/3 return of http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=576333  Granted, both deserved threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) I ask this as an admitted filthy casual. But, how did the top few nations in this game get so disproportionately strong? We are all bound by the same mechanics, so it seems that older nations should be on similar levels. I understand wars change nation outcomes pretty significantly, but other than that it all seems pretty straight forward. Is it just that they have been throwing down monthly donations for years? Or is there something I'm missing?  Also I would be interested in seeing nation growth over the whole lifetime of some of those top nations. Is it possible to get nation strength charts that go back that far? Well there is a bunch of factors. 1) they are religious about aid slots. Tech is always going in. Other players have to pay for tech so the largest nations get a leg up this way. How do they get away with not paying for tech? Well sometimes they pay with donations, sometimes there are alliances who feel it is more beneficial for them to feed tech into a single nation perpetually to get one (or a few) super nations. The Legion actually started this practice 8 years ago by feeding a player by the name of "legionnaire" (who also PM every war but that was because they wanted the #1 nation on the Stat page). Overall though technically any nation can be as religious about tech slots. And to add to that, they also know a lot about the game (or know someone who does) so they can grow as efficient as possible. Again thought this is something anyone can do. 2) Donations. It's a good way to grow faster than those who have complete point 1. 3) Land. Huge swathes of land are take via GAs. There was a point around 200k NS where certain people realized a few won battles would steal enough land to even make a full round of retaliation nukes worth the raid. DBDC took full advantage of this and that's why you've seen the exponential growth instead of linear. 4) Good diplomacy. Going in and doing a couple GAs and leaving without retribution is an art. And one that TBR&co is very skilled at. I had more and a point but lost it. Edited September 15, 2015 by Unknown Smurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Who decided 1mil NS was the standard for winning CN? I thought it was getting your butt kicked by kashmir and a bunch of other AAs for months. I forget where I heard that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespassianus Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Not 1 mil ns is the big number, by playing long enough anyone can reach it, but the 428 effiency is the real deal, you don't even see anyone else over 300 (like no war and max donation Dulra is at 250) meanwhile Cuba has the most casualties too by fighting many wars, sometimes as an underdog. Edited September 16, 2015 by Vespassianus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applesauce59 Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) As a former political adversary of DBDC I would say that it's a simple fact that many/most upper tier nations lack balls and IF they are willing to fight, they only fight on the winning side of curbstomps. That's why they get big... while us producers fight their wars, they grow fat exploiting underpriced tech in peacetime, and hide in peacemode, desert, or otherwise run from costly wars. A couple years ago if the upper tier banded together against Cubaquerida and his gang, they wouldn't have gotten so big, but they didn't, and the fact that doomsphere has fought their way to supremacy against the same establishment that suppressed my place in politics (not to mention, they don't exploit tech producers and noobs at horrible rates) is why I solidly support them now.  Junka gets it. Down with the 1%!!!! Taking tech from those 99%. Edited September 16, 2015 by applesauce59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yes, because viewing a publically viewable nation that is able to be viewed without even logging in is tantamount to stalking. Viewing it everyday with your friends throughout the day for weeks as admitted by the OP does tantamount to stalking the player in game :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015  Junka gets it. Down with the 1%!!!! Taking tech from those 99%. Similar spirit, slightly different dynamic. In the case of stable tech producers it's more like a disenfranchised minority unaware of their true potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted September 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Similar spirit, slightly different dynamic. In the case of stable tech producers it's more like a disenfranchised minority unaware of their true potential. Admit it your a disciple of Ayn Rand. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Admit it your a disciple of Ayn Rand. :p Ayn Rand turned upside down perhaps :awesome: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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