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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

 

 
Everyone has friends in DBDC, few are friends with all of DBDC. One of the most overlooked factors of DBDCs greatness is its foreign affairs structure. They have someone who is an amazing friends/dual member with every sphere who serves as a liason. Surely they will never destroy SP&TR because of Bones. Surely they will never roll FEAR because of Vesp. Surely they will never roll Aztec because of SCM. Surely they will never roll tJL/AI because of WC. etc.
 
Victory is inevitable. If there is any that doubts, please stand up. 

 

You realize the alliance that noone is left to speak for them is WTF right, not the other way around?

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Okay TDO went but they didn't have a great upper tier. 

 

Also, this BS keeps getting posted over and over again.

 

GOP and TDO both had much stronger nations than DBDC at the time stats wise.  The only two nations who had any advantage were Cuba and Tim and even then they were going up against nations with 40k+ infra would have absolutely obliterated any ground push.  But of course, there was none. No coordination. No real attempt to fight. Just flailing and launching nukes/cms.

 

 

I think they desire the challenge of fighting a coalition determined to topple them

 

Bingo.

 

We gave the world every opportunity.

 

At first it was just a couple 200k nations.

 

Then 300k.

 

Who became 400k.

 

A year later they were 500k as we raided some 30+ alliances at will.

 

Two years passed of unobstructed raiding and those nations swelled to 600k... 700k... and we gained more warrior nations

 

and so on.  Yet the world sat idly by and was content to just bitch and let people like Tywin lead the charge against us with words, but no real action.

 

And now all that can be down is "war our tech sellers", but as we've seen that's been woefully ineffective considering were still hitting 100% slot efficiency from time to time.

 

You reap what you sow.

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I think the point here is that yes, the world gets it, DBDC is on top and per the game mechanics and they always will be- it's too bad I didn't start my nation years-and-years ago, oh well.

With that being said on this point, the annoying thing that DBDC is basically every major point. It's not a knock at them- if they didn't exist, someone else would come along and do the same thing.

Moving on, Cuba mentioned that they are doing everything in their power in foreign affairs, perhaps he doesn't realize that's not much, the selling point of larger nations basically does all the fa work itself.

I think what Smurf is trying to say is that this is your best chance to coordinate on DBDC, or forever hold you peace. And with that, grow your nation and manage your alliance how you want, not based on the multiple strings the treaty web holds. The stagnation of the game isn't DBDC, nor their actions, but instead it's the worlds inability to grasp that they can play how they want to. Rather than blaming everything on DBDC, or in spite of DBDC. A lot of nations are far too busy kissing ass to DBDC and their "friends" to protect their pixels that they forgot why they played this game in the first place

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I think what Smurf is trying to say is that this is your best chance to coordinate on DBDC, or forever hold you peace. And with that, grow your nation and manage your alliance how you want, not based on the multiple strings the treaty web holds. The stagnation of the game isn't DBDC, nor their actions, but instead it's the worlds inability to grasp that they can play how they want to. Rather than blaming everything on DBDC, or in spite of DBDC. A lot of nations are far too busy kissing ass to DBDC and their "friends" to protect their pixels that they forgot why they played this game in the first place

Close.  What he really is trying to do is build a coalition to harm us and its what he's been doing since we hit Pax.  He is trying to convince our allies that we are plotting harm to them and he is lying to them.

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I would have followed you, my brother... my captain... my king  ||| I will be your king.                                                                   .

 

You know what I hate? The romanticization of the past. Players like Archon or Moldavi or whoever weren't on another level intellectually than those around us now, they just saw opportunities and took them. They were the difference between Boromir saying he would have done something and Thorin actually doing it (I mean these specific scenes pictured above, I know the analogy falls apart when carried over to the entire series, that's irrelevant though. Pay attention now). All you need to do is look around the world and seize the opportunities around you. 

 

Surely I am safe, I have XX.  Surely I am safe, I have TOP. Surely I am safe, I have NPO. Surely I am safe, I am have Polardox. Surely I am safe, I have GPA/WTF... I have Umbrella? IRON? FEAR? DT? C&G? Meh.

 

The Tywins of the world have been clamoring for a champion for some time now. Everyone thought IRON would stand up and fight when raided, but they backed down and allied DBDC once raided. Then it was Polardox as the bastion of hope, surely the Citadel remnants would stop the mighty DBDC. Even still some clung to a hope that the neutrals like GPA and WTF would save them. Okay TDO went but they didn't have a great upper tier. Okay GPA said they were going to fight but once DBDC concentrated on knocking the biggest naysayers down they went quietly. Surely WTF will stand and save the day though, they have huge nations...

 

Enough with the excuses. The world stands still as the masses await their savior to show up from just over that mountain top. One to arise from the great beyond to lead them to victory. 

 

It's better to fight now with WTF than to fight alone later. 

 

We're waiting.  :war:

 

    

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Well I for one think this demonstrates just what a genius Smurf is because I don't understand a f%@king word of it!  I shall stick to meeting him on the battlefield!

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It's not failed leadership if the people who were necessary to bringing about such a strategy would never do so in the first place.

 

One thing that has defend the great leaders in Planet Bob history, is being able to convince others that they should do something that they would a) normally not do and b) do not particularly want to do. As I said, there is no really good leadership in this game today, but Cuba and TB outclass literally EVERYONE else.

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Bob needs DBDC. Whether you like it or not, without Doom, you would have the stagnation and decay that we have been plagued with since after Karma.

Actually, we have stagnation and decay purely because certain alliances have a stranglehold on the top tier, and thus control the flow of wars. They then choose to protect the top tier and not take any risks (DBDC exempted because they full-on attacked a neutral for like the third time now) at all in the political game.
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One thing that has defend the great leaders in Planet Bob history, is being able to convince others that they should do something that they would a) normally not do and b) do not particularly want to do. As I said, there is no really good leadership in this game today, but Cuba and TB outclass literally EVERYONE else.

 

Cuba and TBDRaiders have nations that outclasses everyone else, you mean. It's not particular hard to be a leader when you have that. Imagine if I had Cubaqueridas nation.

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Cuba and TBDRaiders have nations that outclasses everyone else, you mean. It's not particular hard to be a leader when you have that. Imagine if I had Cubaqueridas nation.

 

See .. maybe if you actually had credence to what you post here ... you would realize there is more to DBDC than just their nations.  Worse part is you don't even listen as anyone that posts here has told you so. So really now step back and start thinking man. (Or boy whatever the case may be)

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Close.  What he really is trying to do is build a coalition to harm us and its what he's been doing since we hit Pax.  He is trying to convince our allies that we are plotting harm to them and he is lying to them.


I have never tried to build a coalition against DBDC or anything of that nature.

I am not the boogeyman you've tried to make me out to be.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, DBDC means nothing to me (Edit I mean the threat of DBDC, I have/had a friend or two there like everyone). I am too small and so are most of my friends for you to be an issue or asset. I'm just commenting on the current state of the world, not choosing a side.

Walshs posts in this thread are spot on. WTF is a victory lap for DBDC if we're being honest. Edited by Unknown Smurf
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*makes multiple attention-getting threads attempting to gather support against DBDC*
 
Can't stand being unimportant can you smurf  :lol1: 


I never gathered support, I've just asked people to step up for Bob's sake.. Also multiple? Which other one do you mean.

Second point is spot on though. :P
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If anything I feel sorry for DBDC, a bunch of jackasses run around calling them cowards for not attacking big upper tiers, when they do attack a big upper tier nobody even fights back. There is like no challenge left for them at all at this point, and considering how much they all like casualties, that's kinda sad :(


We're saying the same thing.
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So what I learned ITT: 

 

Cuba is a bad leader... who managed to navigate DBDC from its infancy to a group of mega-nations... raided dozens of alliances unabated... generated beneficial treaties for themselves and their allies... has maintained a constant tech supply despite pitiful attempts at seller embargoes... make practically all non-DBDC upper tier nations look they are running around with their heads chopped off during amateur hour at the karaoke bar... and doing all of this while being all out of bubble gum. Yeah, sure, definitely some "worst leader ever" material there. 

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If CN were a little league game someone would have called it by now, DBDC won, you can all quit now.

 

We're content to just nuke one of their nations forever, not much else we can do really

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The thing is, DBDC in reality is the largest alliance in the game, the actual members of DBDC are the front wedge, the "business end" of DBDC.  Their various network of supporters who feed them tech, money and political support in endless quantities is ultimately the source of and ultimate constituency of, DBDC,

 

DBDC ignores the treaty web yet at the same time uses it to protect and shelter that vast network, and at the same time to use people's allies against them.  Basically everything RIA has ever worked for, the sacrifices we have made, the relationships we have built, the effort made to build our nations, is worthless and pointless since the entire system is rigged in favor of DBDC, who have no respect for any of those things yet benefit from all of them.

 

So what's the point?  Why bother?  Why shouldn't we all just quit?  CN is over, you won, congrats.

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Basically everything RIA has ever worked for, the sacrifices we have made, the relationships we have built, the effort made to build our nations, is worthless and pointless since the entire system is rigged in favor of DBDC, who have no respect for any of those things yet benefit from all of them.

 

I disagree, I think these things have value in themselves.

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So what I learned ITT: 

 

Cuba is a bad leader... who managed to navigate DBDC from its infancy to a group of mega-nations... raided dozens of alliances unabated... generated beneficial treaties for themselves and their allies... has maintained a constant tech supply despite pitiful attempts at seller embargoes... make practically all non-DBDC upper tier nations look they are running around with their heads chopped off during amateur hour at the karaoke bar... and doing all of this while being all out of bubble gum. Yeah, sure, definitely some "worst leader ever" material there. 

Just reading all that makes me think this:

 

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