Sardonic Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think the only sensible thing to do is to help Polaris track the monsters who have supported DBDC since this announcement. Let's begin with this guy, a member of Limitless Nexus. (Actually, he's the only one thus far. And he's also doing tech deals with SNX.) I'll understand if you don't attack this guy in order to avoid having a war with Methrage. For the right price I'm sure GOONS would be happy to subcontract for NpO in this specific instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 brb Signing treaty with Sard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 brb Signing treaty with Sard... By right price I'm fairly sure he means a barrel of cheap liquor to numb the pain of dealing with Methrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well, there is the point that in PM, as I recall, one cannot send foreign aid, as well. So if they got low enough to feel the need to do that, they would cut themselves off from their sources of tech. No. It's possible to continue receiving aid in PM, so DBDC could still soak up tech regardless of their situation. Sure they might not be able to pay for it right away but that's largely irrelevant if they're farming it. brb Signing treaty with Sard... Unholy Alliance 2.0, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 And if we were talking about anyone else other than the Doombird collective, we would indeed observe the cumulative effect of being dropped in the shark tank. As it is, it would take quite a while and a certain, possibly unsustainable, amount of sacrificial nations to do the necessary damage to DBDC to ensure that they could not rise to previous heights. We've seen what happens to 150k+ NS nations, so it's not difficult to draw similar conclusions as to what would happen to the sub-100k nations. Would such a strategy succeed? Yes, of course; you throw enough numbers at it and you can change the outcome. But at what cost? Who shoulders the burden? Would we simply observe more mass PM usage in the sub-100k tiers, thereby dooming the strategy to fail? Would it, in the end, be anything more than a pyrrhic victory? It was possible vs Umbrella, it would be the same thing, and at this point I think you could find alliances from both sides of the upcoming global conflict willing to shoulder the burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 For the right price I'm sure GOONS would be happy to subcontract for NpO in this specific instance. Hey bud, how about you leave DBDC alone and mess with someone your own size? The Tea Party can give you a fight, bucko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 No. It's possible to continue receiving aid in PM, so DBDC could still soak up tech regardless of their situation. Sure they might not be able to pay for it right away but that's largely irrelevant if they're farming it. Except I don't think sellers will send tech for free--the only people willing to send tech in those circumstances would be those actually willing to work on charity, and those would be targeted by the people boycotting DBDC. Hey bud, how about you leave DBDC alone and mess with someone your own size? The Tea Party can give you a fight, bucko. Tell DBDC to leave everyone else alone first. :V: . Sooner or later they would have to come out of PM to pay the bill if they wanted to keep the 'sellers,' and then others would pounce immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Except I don't think sellers will send tech for free--the only people willing to send tech in those circumstances would be those actually willing to work on charity, and those would be targeted by the people boycotting DBDC. Tell DBDC to leave everyone else alone first. :V: . Sooner or later they would have to come out of PM to pay the bill if they wanted to keep the 'sellers,' and then others would pounce immediately. You're making a lot of tech sellers unemployed and hurting the world economy by embargoing them. The top nations create jobs and keep the game going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I have seen the future and there are corpses piled high on my doorstep, most of them mine. DBDC are rabid dogs, they are off the leash and no one seems to care. Since they have attacked us for a third time in circumstances that could hardly be engendered as a raid of any kind, we are at war. We will accept their surrender at any time or enter into any sensible negotiation, but we are no longer standing idly by whilst every nation who strays into their backyard gets gunned down. Enough is enough..... unless you are suggesting that DBDC are somehow involved in a strategy related to the Pacifican vs SnX fiasco. Nah, still doesn't change anything. We are not going to play by the ''rules'' if DBDC doesn't have to play by any common convention. So what if we are at war forever and ever and ever, peace is a lie. I am tired of the whole machinations of Bob, you do whatever it is you want to do, we will do likewise. Edited November 16, 2014 by AlmightyGrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 You're making a lot of tech sellers unemployed and hurting the world economy by embargoing them. The top nations create jobs and keep the game going. hardly unemployed. There are a lot more buyers than sellers, it's easy enough for a seller to find plenty of willing buyers if a single market is cut off. Seller's market, not buyers. Basic economics dictates if it's less of a hassle to selll to someone else anyone interested in a profit will do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Original, this could be pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 hardly unemployed. There are a lot more buyers than sellers, it's easy enough for a seller to find plenty of willing buyers if a single market is cut off. Seller's market, not buyers. Basic economics dictates if it's less of a hassle to selll to someone else anyone interested in a profit will do so. Whatever, it's still very Marxist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Whatever, it's still very Marxist. (Ooc: go to the boiler room to learn about marxism) No its not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (Ooc: go to the boiler room to learn about marxism) No its not Why did you out paranthesis around that and I don't need any supernova x people talking to me. I love war going patriotic comrades like any other American I know, but I don't need the people punishing the top corporate nations telling me where to learn. Keep your little liberal indoctrination camps out of my nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Why did you out paranthesis around that and I don't need any supernova x people talking to me. I love war going patriotic comrades like any other American I know, but I don't need the people punishing the top corporate nations telling me where to learn. Keep your little liberal indoctrination camps out of my nation. (Parentheses are for OOC, as this is an IC forum.) It is not Marxist, it is in fact capitalism at its most basic. It is breaking up a monopoly on the top tier so others have room to grow. They continually raid anyone that gets close to their tier to keep them down and keep themselves on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Definitely Rota now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Boycotting is a perfectly acceptable CAPITALIST tactic to bring down oppressive monopolies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 An organized group of people chanting about an evil guy getting all of their items is the most socialist thing I've ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Please no there is no capitalism or bourgeois in this world. We must you terminology adapted to the conitions of this planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Please no there is no capitalism or bourgeois in this world. We must you terminology adapted to the conitions of this planet. What are your terms then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 In the grim darkness of this world, there is only War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 An organized group of people chanting about an evil guy getting all of their items is the most socialist thing I've ever heard. Watch it, when you get to the top only to get knocked down, you will be chanting as different tune as well. It is not simply that they have and others don't, it is that they will not LET others have any of it. They destroy anyone who gets too close. Take a look at the history of wars if you don't believe us, the evidence speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) It was possible vs Umbrella, it would be the same thing, and at this point I think you could find alliances from both sides of the upcoming global conflict willing to shoulder the burden. With great respect to them, Umbrella isn't DBDC so it wouldn't go exactly the same way. And I'm not convinced on that last point. Arguably, there are a great many more alliances with agendas that don't propose a narrative of DBDC getting rolled, than alliances with agendas that do. Except I don't think sellers will send tech for free--the only people willing to send tech in those circumstances would be those actually willing to work on charity, and those would be targeted by the people boycotting DBDC. True but I doubt it'd be hard to find anti-Polar farms who would send it for free. A 5-10k NS nation could get a 30m package, sit on it for ten days in PM, then lob out 500 tech to DBDC nations. Rinse and repeat. Edited November 16, 2014 by Helios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochers Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Respectable move, Polaris. Good luck in your fight. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahPalin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Watch it, when you get to the top only to get knocked down, you will be chanting as different tune as well. It is not simply that they have and others don't, it is that they will not LET others have any of it. They destroy anyone who gets too close. Take a look at the history of wars if you don't believe us, the evidence speaks for itself. No because when I get to the top and want to keep my nation I will be looking to join the aggressors to not get my top knocked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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