Rhizoctonia Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Several inaccuracies here: 1) You're % lost difference is almost all from Karma, a war more than 5 years ago.* Take out that war and TOP has lost more on average since then. 2) TOP has lost much more in the last two wars, which really matters the most. Especially in the last war where you gained NS. 3) Being an "elite alliance" isn't about absolute number of nations over a certain threshold but average NS. In this case: IRON: 58,497, TOP: 94,371. 27.1% of IRON is over 10K tech, 52.4% of TOP is. *OOC: Holy c*** has it really been that long? ETA: Saladjoe beat me to it. You're last point is quite comical. Basing elitness on average NS. TOP has 84 nations, IRON has 344. Obviously with that many nations, we have many smaller nations that would bring down the "average". Say for argument sake, we just kick our bottom nations til we only had 84 nations...welp then I guess by your standards, we'd be more elite. Anyway, I'l leave the ones wanting to argue for the sake of arguing have this thread. I don't get my jollies like some do derailing a thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imran Ehsan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I am just surprised that the Lobster Party is not here yet to take credit. :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Hey, I wouldn't want to limit your options or anything Samus. :D Edited November 9, 2014 by Saladjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My God, who pissed in STA's cheerios? :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 To get back on topic; Congratz IRON on your awesome achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Saladjoe gives a pretty good idea of where it will end up. I'll be waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 IRON @ TOP : We just don't like you :mad: TOP @ IRON : We just don't like you :mad: IRON @ STA : We just don't like you :mad: STA @ IRON : We just don't like you :mad: Congrats to IRON on your achievements /me goes back to watching DS vs Invicta :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'll be waiting. Don't be in peace mode though ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montosh Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I am just surprised that the Lobster Party is not here yet to take credit. :mellow: Our involvement is a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Congrats RON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamind Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Don't be in peace mode though ok? Dude! You can't go to war with your Double Vision brothers!Also congrats on the achievement. Now hurry up and get to 100 score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Non Grata must be so proud of you RON. Edited November 9, 2014 by alyster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) You're last point is quite comical. Basing elitness on average NS. TOP has 84 nations, IRON has 344. Obviously with that many nations, we have many smaller nations that would bring down the "average". Say for argument sake, we just kick our bottom nations til we only had 84 nations...welp then I guess by your standards, we'd be more elite. Anyway, I'l leave the ones wanting to argue for the sake of arguing have this thread. I don't get my jollies like some do derailing a thread That's simply how most people categorize alliances these days: mass member vs. elite. IRON is clearly one, and TOP is clearly one. It doesn't make anyone objectively better than the other, it's just jargon that's evolved since Planet Bob came about. Edited November 9, 2014 by Gibsonator21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Dude! You can't go to war with your Double Vision brothers! Also congrats on the achievement. Now hurry up and get to 100 score! Damn signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 That's simply how most people categorize alliances these days: mass member vs. elite. IRON is clearly one, and TOP is clearly one. It doesn't make anyone objectively better than the other, it's just jargon that's evolved since Planet Bob came about. Amen to neither being the other. The trick is to be the best at what you are. Both IRON and TOP are good at being who they are from an organizational standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Don't be in peace mode though ok? Just don't blow the staggers k brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Certainly a significant milestone, IRON's IA has without a doubt been superlative since Eq. It's amazing what you can do with hundreds of potential tech farms, and if anything I'd say they're a solid case for the strength of a mass member model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I forgot to mention you are a lulzist alliance and must be civilized through Lobsterism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montosh Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I forgot to mention you are a lulzist alliance and must be civilized through Lobsterism! All will Lobster in time :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Spanier Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 All will Lobster in time :ph34r: Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Lobster Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Lobster Party. Springtime for IRON? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBRaiders Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 This thread is like watching a wrestling match between two snowmen in an oven. This is great and why you are one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Spanier Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Springtime for IRON? They are crossing borders, the new world order is here. It's winter for Polar and Paradoxia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 The best time of year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I still find it funny how all this time TOP have been approaching us for ODP's, trying to setup joint .gov channels, sending diplomats to our forums etc and now they see war is approaching and all their efforts were in vain and ineffective they result to the trolling. Gotta love em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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