Saxplayer Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hello, Comrade! Welcome to CN. I am pleased to see you made your way over here. From what I can tell, you appear to be a pretty militant style of leftist, which would mean LSF is a really good fit for you. Most of LSF, from what I can tell, has been at odds with established fascists and imperialist alliances for quite a while. The International however, based on my own, and others personal experiences is leftist in name only. They generally do not have any real democratic process (despite claiming all actions are done via the Congress - in reality, Momentum handles about 90% of !@#$), and elections are non existent. People are appointed based upon merit, which is fine but not if you're going to have a leftist theme. There's good people in INT, and I know Momentum (MoMo :) ) is one of them, so if you want to check them out, feel free. Just be forewarned it's a bit of an insiders club there, and there's a lot of older cynics there. Leftist gameplay is far from dead. There is a very large confederation between the Socialist Worker's Front, Libertarian Socialist Federation and the Union of COmmunist Republics. It's called Die Linke. If you're in LSF, you are already connected with these alliances and are able to get tech deals, trades and military support from them. It's a unique political setup that allows us all to stand in solidarity with each other when it counts. I can support this statement :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casita Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Just waiting for my app to go through in LSF comrades :) Out of all the ones I've checked out, LSF seems to be the best fit. It's interesting to learn about the culture here. In station nates the internationale is a militant leftist region mostly, with some RL activists etc. It runs through a consensus. Capitalists and fascists/Nazis, are our main targets. Where as here it seems that INT is a meritocracy, which is strange XD I'm looking forward to making the fash very uncomfortable here :) Things my nation needs right now, are iron, water, lumber and pigs (not the blue kind XD) If there's any comrades out there that have these message my nation. I will only trade with anarchists, revolutionary governments, and communists. "Democracy is an exception as long as their war option is off." Can't wait to be on the front with my LSF comrades :) Edited July 18, 2014 by casita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 LSF is cooler than the international in my humble opinion. NSO also has a lot of leftists in it, but they aren't a left themed alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Join an alliance that is fun and full of awesome people, don't bother with the "ideology" of the alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casita Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) LSF is cooler than the international in my humble opinion. NSO also has a lot of leftists in it, but they aren't a left themed alliance. I think you might be right :) Join an alliance that is fun and full of awesome people, don't bother with the "ideology" of the alliance The ideology is what makes it fun, for me. Edited July 18, 2014 by casita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casita Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 My app when through. I'm a LSF comrade! Time to bash the fash XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I see :) Leftist gameplay is kind of dead here, that sucks. Nevertheless, I'll stick around and see if things change. In the meantime, hopefully, I can manage to agitate a war with nordreich. Maybe INT, UCR and LSF can manage to get together, this time; it might be a long shot, but worth trying anyway. Well be it LSF or UCR you are a treaty partner to me its a pleasure to have you on board :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knights111 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I would recommend the Death Remnants, but i am not sure if that is what you want. We honestly do not care, you can be communist or capitalist or socialist, etc. We like to be diverse. We are still small but are advancing, and would enjoy to have a NS member like you aboard. Wherever you go, good luck and i will hopefully see you around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casita Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Well be it LSF or UCR you are a treaty partner to me its a pleasure to have you on board :) Glad to be on board :)I would recommend the Death Remnants, but i am not sure if that is what you want. We honestly do not care, you can be communist or capitalist or socialist, etc. We like to be diverse. We are still small but are advancing, and would enjoy to have a NS member like you aboard. Wherever you go, good luck and i will hopefully see you around! . Death Remnants is a sweet name :) But not into the accept all ideologies type regions. Thanks and good luck to you too! See you around on the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 lol commies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Craig Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Dear lord, seriously? I find it hilarious the LSF/UCR and their various cheerleaders are still rehashing ancient history. In a way, I guess it makes sense. They don't have a positive identity. The only way they can even attempt to manufacture an independent identity is for them to continually express how much they're not like us. But for all their claims of moral and ideological superiority, they are nothing but class traitors who waged an aggressive war against the only true workers party. The can justify and whitewash history until the end of days, but the fact remains that the International never took up arms against our proletarian sisters and brothers. Despite all of this, I hold no permanent grudge against my wayward comrades. Sometimes children need to wander out into the world and find their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Dear lord, seriously? I find it hilarious the LSF/UCR and their various cheerleaders are still rehashing ancient history. In a way, I guess it makes sense. They don't have a positive identity. The only way they can even attempt to manufacture an independent identity is for them to continually express how much they're not like us. But for all their claims of moral and ideological superiority, they are nothing but class traitors who waged an aggressive war against the only true workers party. The can justify and whitewash history until the end of days, but the fact remains that the International never took up arms against our proletarian sisters and brothers. Despite all of this, I hold no permanent grudge against my wayward comrades. Sometimes children need to wander out into the world and find their own way.You are literally Ronald Reagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 You are literally Ronald Reagan He must have read a few of my post's over at GATO, slowly but surely the message of a non crony, sound money, free market capitalist system is the only true self motivating way to prosperity. Rey Comrade Craig is on the path of true enlightenment, leave him be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Is Francoism still going strong in The Pacific? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Craig Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 You are literally Ronald Reagan I kind of see myself as more of an Uncle Joe (Stalin) figure. But honestly, that just might be another case of "you say tomato, I say tomato." -Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Harkonnen Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Dear lord, seriously? I find it hilarious the LSF/UCR and their various cheerleaders are still rehashing ancient history. In a way, I guess it makes sense. They don't have a positive identity. The only way they can even attempt to manufacture an independent identity is for them to continually express how much they're not like us. But for all their claims of moral and ideological superiority, they are nothing but class traitors who waged an aggressive war against the only true workers party. The can justify and whitewash history until the end of days, but the fact remains that the International never took up arms against our proletarian sisters and brothers. Despite all of this, I hold no permanent grudge against my wayward comrades. Sometimes children need to wander out into the world and find their own way. Are you actually trying to present The International as a legitimate socialist or leftist alliance? One with a real and credible identity? You've said so yourself that you would prefer to not make alliances based upon ideology, so how does that make you anything but a class traitor. Everything from exploiting new members for tech at below equal rates for deals (every person I've come across since leaving you has been at the 6/100 rate - it might be okay for strangers, but for comrades there is no reason for this! )Not to mention the numerous posts I have seen from Central Committee members looking to attack and conquer unaligned alliances, for fun. You align yourself with capitalist and imperialist forces, begging and scraping for a shred of relevancy when your alliance is but a dying shell of it's former self. From what I can tell, the LSF has never been shy about what it stands for: an independent, open community of nations geared for the advancement of leftist ideology in both form, and action. Your alliance has no elections, no real accountability to the average member and absolutely no credible evidence to suggest you are actually leftist. All you have is a name, and a forum theme. You lack any sense of ideological motivation to assist and help other leftist alliances, for fear it might drag you into conflict. Well, in case you've forgotten, revolutions are the locomotives of history, and there is only one struggle: the class struggle. I know you're in character right now, and that's the point. LSF is never in character, because they are who they are. It's cliche, but try practicing what you preach. Hold an election FFS, and stop criticizing people for making directly democratic and non-hierarchical power structures. Don't get jealous when people call your alliance out for what it actually practices: oligarchic nonsense, with a thin veil of "commie" on it. I don't think anyone can take you seriously with a racist odal rune in your avatar anyways, so you might as well move on and let the actual socialists, communists and anarchist speak for themselves. Edited August 1, 2014 by Xavier Harkonnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) I don't think anyone can take you seriously with a racist odal rune in your avatar anyways,lmao shut the $%&@ upEvery bit of that post dripped with "I don't know," and you seasoned it with "what the fuck" at the end. Edited August 1, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) e: double post Edited August 1, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Harkonnen Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) lmao shut the $%&@ up Every bit of that post dripped with "I don't know," and you seasoned it with "what the $%&@" at the end. I take it that's a rehash of the argument, "Nordreich's not racist! They just wear racist clothes!"? I'll admit their graphics are snazzy, but they're just replacing swastika's with another well known symbol of hate. I just found it odd that a member the so called purveyor of true leftist ideology was wearing it in an avatar. Perhaps he could shed some light on that? Edited August 1, 2014 by Xavier Harkonnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 "I've never seen satire once in my goddamned life"- Xavier Harkonnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Harkonnen Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) "I've never seen satire once in my goddamned life" - Xavier Harkonnen So you're saying Nordreich is a satirical alliance? I highly doubt that since the definition of satire must include humor, and the merciless ridiculing of national socialist ideology through over exaggeration and sheer idiocy. You're thinking of Hogan's Heroes. Seems to me that Nordreich merely considers the usage of the Odal rune as a virtue of nordic lifestyles. They go out of their way to avoid using anything that might be too controversial, just to stay in existence. Do you have any more apologetic crap for me to refute? Edited August 1, 2014 by Xavier Harkonnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGulager Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Dont engage it Also what the hell is going on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Craig is literally in Nordreichoh my god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Harkonnen Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Craig is literally in Nordreichoh my god I never made that point, but I'm sure you don't care. Please, continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 So you responded to the point about it's Satire by talking about Nordreich because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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