But your !@#$ is like the police asking us questions, !@#$%*' we don't know !@#$

[excessium]

 

 

They declared on us, silly goose. 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to point out that we agreed to pay reps to SHIELD, and SHIELD accepted that as an end to the whole situation. 

 

 

[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> To: Terrence Krillins    From: excessium    Date: 6/27/2014 4:00:53 PM
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]>  
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> Subject: Debts paid
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> Message: Hey guys, RIOT society and SHIELD have agreed to the terms of:
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> 9mil and 100 Tech to Tanglerat
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> 6mil and 100 Tech to Browncoat
[22:02:52] <eXcessium[SHIELD]> So all is settled between SHIELD and RIOT Society and both alliances return to Good Terms.

 

 

 

 

But Hey, I guess, if they wanna take AZTEC and roll us. 

All is well between SHIELD and RS, however others clearly have taken offence to the way in which your alliance conducted themselves during the discussions, or lack thereof, and well, conducted themselves generally is my understanding

[gunzzz]

 
The one constant thing on Planet Bob... when you piss away any and all good will with so many incidents that are 100% the fault of you (and LT since you absorbed them, then put the guy who led them in charge)... you create a profile of your alliance. When your very next action a) accentuates that profile... b) slaps the strongest bloc in the game in the face.... and c) proves that nobody in RS has any semblence of control over their members.... THEN you say you only paid reps because of nukes....not because your guys should never have attacked in the 1st place (further accentuating you profile)... you have consequences and repercussions. This is them. Clean up  your alliance or get used to this.

Taking all this as given (for the sake of argument) we still paid reps, regardless of reason. These reps were obviously satisfactory enough for SHIELD to say we are now on "good terms." Meaning this is resolved. DT taking offense to a resolved incident, like I said, is just stupid

It's ironic that you use the "if you took 2 seconds" argument now. You should teach your members that.... Just sayin...

I don't disagree, though luckily when things like this happens, we resolve the issue using diplomacy. Well at least we resolved the issue to the AA that were directly affected by our error.

[protoa]

I'm too high in NS :/.... and I wanted to try out my new happy nukes. Guaranteed to give you a smile on your face right before it vaporizes it off!

[Rush Sykes]

Taking all this as given (for the sake of argument) we still paid reps, regardless of reason. These reps were obviously satisfactory enough for SHIELD to say we are now on "good terms." Meaning this is resolved. DT taking offense to a resolved incident, like I said, is just stupid

I don't disagree, though luckily when things like this happens, we resolve the issue using diplomacy. Well at least we resolved the issue to the AA that were directly affected by our error.

 

There is al ot you don't  get about things, it would appear. Which probably explains why you find yourself in this predicament.

[The R00STER]

1. Big thanks to shirunei who truly is a diamond in the rough over here in DT. His artistic skills are a gift from God and I'm sure that he'll be taking the art world by storm.

2. This is about a cumulative of crap dealings with RS. Unfortunately the SHIELD incident tipped the scales. I am glad that eX managed to find resolution for his alliance and wish tanglerat and browncoat speedy recoveries. However, as stated many times here, this is bigger than SHIELD. RS and LT have on multiple occasions brought their trash into our temple. They leave messes that we have to clean up. They are uninvited and unwanted. Yet still they enter. We never entered your riot to peach law and order. There are lines, hopefully in the future RS will stay on their side.


TL:DR- RS and former LT have caused problems that effect us and we are sick of their crap.

[His Lordship]

Taking all this as given (for the sake of argument) we still paid reps, regardless of reason. These reps were obviously satisfactory enough for SHIELD to say we are now on "good terms." Meaning this is resolved. DT taking offense to a resolved incident, like I said, is just stupid

I don't disagree, though luckily when things like this happens, we resolve the issue using diplomacy. Well at least we resolved the issue to the AA that were directly affected by our error.

I remember quite vividly how you entered SHIELD's IRC moments after Riot Society began to raid SHIELD nations and you bragged and laughed about it in the channel. Now you say that your nations were wrong in doing it? I'd suggest you refrain from being two faced while dealing with others as a leader in your alliance.

 

Now, here's the reason you are being hammered right now. 1), your alliance is known to raid micros, so your "we told them not to" excuse is honestly looked at as BS. 2) If by some remote chance what you are saying is true, you and Franz and whoever is leading your pirate ship are completely incompetent due to the fact that you can't set a simple policy "do not raid alliances" and 3) You pissed off DT while negotiating for YOUR ass. Why would anyone be bad mannered to the person they are begging mercy from? GG Riot Society, AZTEC is coming for you.

Edited June 28, 2014 by His Lordship

[gunzzz]

I remember quite vividly how you entered SHIELD's IRC moments after Riot Society began to raid SHIELD nations and you bragged and laughed about it in the channel. Now you say that your nations were wrong in doing it? I'd suggest you refrain from being two faced while dealing with others as a leader in your alliance.
 
Now, here's the reason you are being hammered right now. 1), your alliance is known to raid micros, so your "we told them not to" excuse is honestly looked at as BS. 2) If by some remote chance what you are saying is true, you and Franz and whoever is leading your pirate ship are completely incompetent due to the fact that you can't set a simple policy "do not raid alliances" and 3) You pissed off DT while negotiating for YOUR ass. Why would anyone be bad mannered to the person they are begging mercy from? GG Riot Society, AZTEC is coming for you.

I went on the irc Chan, typed in ,"lol" (at the time, i saw only my alliance war screen and saw a person on SHIELD declare on RIOT Society.) Keep in mind, while I disagree with RIOT Society members in acting w/o gov approval, I would like to make clear that their attacks were meant for defense and were not raids. Anyway, there wasn't any SHIELD gov on their irc chan at the time. So after that I said, "well I can't do anything here anyway so...." And I left the chan. There was no bragging my time there. Edited June 28, 2014 by Hamilmania

[protoa]

[gunzzz]

Not really. We're honored that DT felt the need to call in AZTEC to fight us.

[Conred]

Let's not pretend LT/RS didn't think it was being cute (Shielded from the Dark Lodgers who can't ride the Sandstorm into the Atlantic Breeze without bumping into El Pollo Loco!) You can't continually raid connected alliances, make jokes about it, then cry about it when things get messy. Pony up guys. (Also, seriously, do something about your peace mode problem RS.)

[Generalchow]

Good luck to all opponents!

I actually think DT are decent guys, although this is a complete overreaction to a situation that was getting resolved peacefully. Calling in your entire bloc to fight us was a crappy move in my opinion, it would have been much more fun to fight only DT opponents.

[Jack Layton]

From what I gather here, RS did wrong, admitted it, offered to pay reps for it, and now is paying for it in war. If they are in the wrong, that is unfortunate, but they are allies of War Jesus. Though we face a great many number of nations and doing this will likely mean the destruction of my nation, the bond of friendship cannot be broken in the face of mere adversity. Where would we be now if the Allies didn't fight Nazi Germany, despite losing countless infra, tech, land, and racking up a mad casualty count?

 

No, we have an obligation to our blood brothers. Jack Layton of NDPstan does not run from a fight when his allies are being attacked. And until peace is declared, I will fight on with every intention of gaining victory or suffering in glorious death. Molon labe.

[General Somoza]

I am honestly concerned that the people in the riot society actually believe the ridiculous comments they're posting. Any rational person can easily see that they knew they were provoking DT and that things would have to turn against them at some point. However, they just continued to poke and push until they finally reaped what had been sewn. Someone with any cognitive abilities would be able to figure out what needed to be done to bring this to a prompt conclusion, yet the riot kids have managed to do the exact opposite. 

Either you're making an effort to do everything wrong because it humors you or there are some real problems over there. Either way, I hope you all figure it out before things get too bad for the members of the alliance that were just going about their lives without poking sleeping bears. 

 

Oh, and spectacular war chests! What will it be, a week before most of the alliance is bill locked?

Edited June 28, 2014 by General Somoza

[Stewie]

Remember guys. GLHF.

Keep it clean.

[Starcraftmazter]

Good luck to all opponents!

I actually think DT are decent guys, although this is a complete overreaction to a situation that was getting resolved peacefully. Calling in your entire bloc to fight us was a crappy move in my opinion, it would have been much more fun to fight only DT opponents.

 

Taking just this situation in isolated, and disregarding RS's actions and the way they have deal with us; maybe - but we cannot do that.

 

As for AZTEC, none of us specialise in the low tiers where this war is fought, so it's most ideal to pool our efforts and give all the new nations in AZTEC some war experience. Not sure what about this would be difficult to easily figure out.

[Sephiroth]

Not really. We're honored that DT felt the need to call in AZTEC to fight us.

I don't think you realize the guy you put in charge of your alliance just signed a bloc treaty with pretty much a rogue one man AA. It sucks for you your alliance would be fooled much like Knights111 was about LHP being a real alliance, but pretty much everyone can agree Rey deserves it if anyone. Your alliance is basically devoid of real leadership right now and a joke with them running the show, so much so the CB doesn't matter and its Karma.

You're on a ship with your captain steering you off a waterfall with a rocky bottom.

[Ogaden]

The tragic consequences of testosterone poisoning.  Let this be a lesson for everyone

[Generalchow]

Taking just this situation in isolated, and disregarding RS's actions and the way they have deal with us; maybe - but we cannot do that.
 
As for AZTEC, none of us specialise in the low tiers where this war is fought, so it's most ideal to pool our efforts and give all the new nations in AZTEC some war experience. Not sure what about this would be difficult to easily figure out.

I see, well unfortunately I was not involved in discussions with DT regarding this situation.

That's understandable but if you have to get your whole bloc involved to take on our lower tier doesn't that tell you something ?


EDIT: I am still unaware if Aztec actions are solely because of the raids or other combining factors? Edited June 28, 2014 by Generalchow

[President S O]

Push, poke and prod any animal and it'll eventually give you what you deserve.

 

This a fine example. Have fun AZTEC brethren. 

[abbasmehdi]

the only thing i see here is DT wanted to bash the teeth in of riot and riot had over reacted then tried to resolve their issue. It's kinda ironic knowing aztec alliances had ties with doomsquad when these same people raided from there. But hey who cares about this, Blood for the blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne. Good-luck to you Gents. 

[Starcraftmazter]

That's understandable but if you have to get your whole bloc involved to take on our lower tier doesn't that tell you something ?
 

Yes, it tells you that we are a group of top-heavy alliances which have primarily very strong mid and upper tiers.

 

If you wish to make fun of our lack of a large quantity of low-tier nations, then by all means by our guest - I'm quite sure we will not take offence to that.

 

 

I see, well unfortunately I was not involved in discussions with DT regarding this situation.

That's understandable but if you have to get your whole bloc involved to take on our lower tier doesn't that tell you something ?


EDIT: I am still unaware if Aztec actions are solely because of the raids or other combining factors?

 

There are indeed other factors, if it were just the raids, followed by an honest apology and speedy reps - all with good will, then we would not have done this.
 

However the situation is that this is not the first time RS has attacked a protectorate/ally of ours, and they have mocked us publicly assuming we will do nothing. AZTEC are very peaceful, we have no interest in starting wars, but we when someone like RS pushes us again and again, we must draw a line.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Starcraftmazter

[Auctor]

Good luck to all opponents!

I actually think DT are decent guys, although this is a complete overreaction to a situation that was getting resolved peacefully. Calling in your entire bloc to fight us was a crappy move in my opinion, it would have been much more fun to fight only DT opponents.

 

 

It was actually RS that called in DT's entire bloc.

[Knights111]

This ain't gonna be pretty...

[Sarkin]

Not really. We're honored that DT felt the need to call in AZTEC to fight us.

 

Sure, feel free to take this whole thing as another ego boost. After all, pissing off your former friends and their friends to the point that they all can't wait to take turns kicking your teeth in demonstrates that you're a strong alliance with a competent foreign affairs team. You should feel really great about your current position and what this means for the future of Riot Society.

[Gopherbashi]

As an admittedly OOC comment, this thread was incredibly fun to stumble on right after re-reading about Archduke Ferdinand's assassination and Austria's resulting ultimatum to Serbia.