Shave N Haircut Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Have to agree with Kevin here. The whole reason CNRP2 was made in the first place was to focus more on the stories than the original CNRP did but everyone else seems to be treating it more as a text based RISK game instead. I try to focus more on the stories but when everyone else starts going into RISK mode it forces everyone else to do so as well so all our RP stuff isn't just simply wiped out! If people would leave me alone I would be RPing a Civil War right now. Five factions. Badass. Total collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So I heard this RP was OOC based, I wish to engage in fisticuffs style combat with any man that is honorable to engage in such a dual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 We'll need a judge, I request Yeru. This will be a sanctioned T-1 Melee fight, no special powers or feats. All abilities and relevant experience clearly posted in the fighter's intro post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 This will be a fight to the death, so a death waiver must be signed, and once the bell rings all rules of engagement are no longer relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Rule 34 must still be in force or the unsigned greenstick waiver comes into effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 If the greenstick waiver comes into effect, each combatant must stop fight, grab a muzzleloaded pistol, march 15 paces from each other, turn, and fire at each other in turn until the other is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 T-1 you mean we'll all be fighting in these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 If people would leave me alone I would be RPing a Civil War right now. Five factions. Badass. Total collapse. I am sad that you couldn't run a +5 faction civil war in peace :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I reserve the right to add a sixth faction.. state worshipping dreamer cult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I don't do muzzleloaders until my muzzle has been properly loaded with a 12 inch subway meatball sandwich. If you have a coupon we are in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Here you go TBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Here you go TBM. Crap, now I'm majorly hungry for a subway italian footlong meatball sandwich. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 No, I don't think you guys get what I'm saying. Obviously nobody should be compelled to give up their colored land to anyone unless they want to. That's a no-brainer, and most people won't even ask for colored land (when I asked for Eva's colored land, it was by accident). What I'm saying is that allowing people to hold large swathes of protectorate land that they can approve or deny people on is a way of using the in-game soldiers and such guarding that white space as a moderation tool. That is dumb. If someone is rolling in just to be a troll or a !@#$head, then we have a GM team who are more than capable of identifying that and going "hey, look, stop it" and retconning the RP or even removing the player from the RP entirely according to the procedures we have. In other words, this is how I think we should handle it: Step 1: I want to roll into Ukraine next to Eva. Step 2: I immediately become ridiculously hostile and invade without any real provocation, trying to kill off her characters and generally be a !@#$head. Step 3: Eva appeals to the GM team saying I'm being a !@#$head. Step 4: My RP is retconned because I am trolling. Step 5: I am removed from the RP by vote for repeated attempts at trolling without serious RP. See how much nicer that is than making it a personal thing every time someone wants to roll into white space? I think so. And it makes it so that we don't have everybody holding large amounts of white space as protectorates and creating needless bureaucracy. If you want to control land, make it your color. If not, let it alone. Or make it a protectorate, but a protectorate that is independent of moderation and only applicable to other nations in the actual RP. What I'm saying is that we should not be forced to act a certain way IC because we can't trust people OOC. THAT is what is breaking this RP. The problem is this system was explicitly voted for by community a month or two ago. I agree with much of what you say, and voted against having protectorates used as a moderation tool, but I can understand where the community is coming from. If there's enough community support to change how protectorates are managed, start a discussion thread and we can vote to modify the rules. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/122719-the-gms-hall/page-41#entry3318446 This is why I am continuing to find myself being turned away from posting in the RPs we have going. What is being discussed here is just far beyond anything I can understand and it seems that the RPs today are getting more and more technical. This is fine for those in the know but for those of us that aren't it is quite off putting. What happened to the old days where technical details didn't matter so much as long as a good story was told? This has literally been said since I first started RPing here five years ago. You're not wrong, the tech RPs are cumbersome, but it's not like the "good old days" were better. It's a result of the mechanics of how CNRP is set up. CNRP2 was made in part to tone that down, but I think it's fair to say the problem has propagated itself here too. This is why it's so important to talk with the other RPer ahead of time, instead of resorting to posting tech stuff and letting the GM deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 That's not rping tech, that blatant god modding with excuse of it being tech. It magic space planes that nobody else can have and can't be shot down but oh we have 300 of the level of bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 [a la John Madden] The problem is if you use protectorates as a way to moderate land usage out-of-character then you cross the holy IC/OOC line and BOOM you're a hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I am freezing any further war preparations or war rps in Asia until Europe catches up in the time line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 You don't get to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I am freezing any further war preparations or war rps in Asia until Europe catches up in the time line. Who made you GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shave N Haircut Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 He'll do it the same way Triyun has. It's apparently not against the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 This is what happens when the OOC becomes a battleground for the IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Could someone from Triyun's side or the man himself please state here what information is required for the RP to advance so that we can work at getting said information and getting things rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Could someone from Triyun's side or the man himself please state here what information is required for the RP to advance so that we can work at getting said information and getting things rolling. They were repeated in the ooc war thread several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Could someone from Triyun's side or the man himself please state here what information is required for the RP to advance so that we can work at getting said information and getting things rolling. Lyn needs to explain/ probably edit his custom tech, including missiles that do not exist IRL or have a equivalent IRL, thus violating the custom tech rule Mara needs to explain her numbers discrepincies with caps and her factbook/ post a link where she's getting advanced tech from she's currently using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 HARM guidance could plausibly be mounted to a Tomahawk, and I do not believe the person who is fielding 400 aircraft that had a total flight time of about 60 hours without RPing a single drawback or problem with using an untested technology, of which the WINNING design had numerous really gets to whine about custom tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) HARM guidance could plausibly be mounted to a Tomahawk, and I do not believe the person who is fielding 400 aircraft that had a total flight time of about 60 hours without RPing a single drawback or problem with using an untested technology, of which the WINNING design had numerous really gets to whine about custom tech. Read a book on why it was a winning design. The aircraft I RP use all existing systems and there are plenty of aircraft that have what I have. What I object to on the missile is that you're adding a second sensor system as a fail safe that does not exist on ANY equivalent missile in tandem. The issue again is not a single substitution, if you want to substitute the onboard radar for something else go for it, you can't just add a whole secondary sensor though. Edit: And Mogar I'm using all parts on either the Raptor or Lightening in configurations that exist on IRL planes, something Lyn is not doing. If a problem occurs on a F-119 engine tomorrow in Syria god forbid, which is what the raptor uses and what my plane uses I'll RP the flaw. Edited October 11, 2014 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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