iamthey Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Yes yes honor In fairness:First of all PT was probably one of the best things that happened to misfits. At least empirically speaking, you all have faired and done significantly better post PT than prior- your strategy has adapted to counter the potency of the tactics applied against you. You should be thanking me.Second of all I would contend that we fought rather valiantly against you for the better part of the round in which Planet Tokyo existed. TE is full of stifling conventions and just because it is often predictable does not mean that it ought to be or has to be. The conventional approach to TE is min/maxed to best suit those who stand the greatest chance to 'win', its the will of those AA's most suited to excel that maintains those conventions. I see no reason why you should cling to them, or hold animosity towards anyone who sought to challenge them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) You got successful attacks off on me this time, Kaboom. If you just wouldn't have done those first attacks I'd have nothing to scoff at. If I was clearly so much bigger why'd you do it? You thought you could win, you miscalculated. That's on you, no matter how big your opponent is. Well done with the coordination though, that last round hurt. Put me back in the casualty race. :D Edited May 12, 2014 by Big Ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 We coordinated the first time too, just didn't go as well. Hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Funny how 4 of Hellas are in anarchy out of 8. Majority of them are hardly dealing any damage....looking staged by the minute.http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000409 Is this fella just enjoying the view?http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000563 What's this fellas plan Edited May 12, 2014 by yung flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Funny how 4 of Hellas are in anarchy out of 8. Majority of them are hardly dealing any damage....looking staged by the minute.http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000409 Is this fella just enjoying the view?http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000563 What's this fellas plan  You just fought a skirmish against your allu, agreeing not to do spy op[s naval blockades and nukes. Your house is so full of glass we can all see your uselessness and incompetence regardless of how often we try to ignore it.  Get some curtains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think he'll need some of my in-house products after reading that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwise Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Funny how 4 of Hellas are in anarchy out of 8. Majority of them are hardly dealing any damage....looking staged by the minute.http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000409 Is this fella just enjoying the view?http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000563 What's this fellas plan Mr Hunt never fights. We had to kick him from WDs because he wouldn't put up proper defenses, so he was always in anarchy after one hit, he wouldn't coordinate attacks with his alliance, and we could rarely get him to actually declare war. Hellas probably has tried contacting him to help out with no luck. He's a liability to Hellas, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Mr Hunt never fights. We had to kick him from WDs because he wouldn't put up proper defenses, so he was always in anarchy after one hit, he wouldn't coordinate attacks with his alliance, and we could rarely get him to actually declare war. Hellas probably has tried contacting him to help out with no luck. He's a liability to Hellas, nothing more.OP had to do the same, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Â You just fought a skirmish against your allu, agreeing not to do spy op[s naval blockades and nukes. Your house is so full of glass we can all see your uselessness and incompetence regardless of how often we try to ignore it. Â Get some curtains. And your first war was skaro? The easiest war you could get. You literally can't down talk misfits on any level. So your only war before this was a mass raid. Our friendly war was far more legit than what you did. You guys threw together a flag running alliance, good job. You are also the ones killing off TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 And your first war was skaro? The easiest war you could get. You literally can't down talk misfits on any level. So your only war before this was a mass raid. Our friendly war was far more legit than what you did. You guys threw together a flag running alliance, good job. You are also the ones killing off TE. Â I fought nations with 7 nukes. Â And actually had to worry about them. Â Your war was a staged farce and one you should apologize for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Your flag runners show different....so you realize we never had plans for Della Luna till the last second? If you looked back you would know I had the SDI for my first war to be ready. Edited May 13, 2014 by yung flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Your flag runners show different  All of the top people in money collected in TEPD have full offensive slots. Most have six wars. All of those wars, I believe, were against nations that had nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Â All of the top people in money collected in TEPD have full offensive slots. Most have six wars. All of those wars, I believe, were against nations that had nukes. ;__; Didn't you hear, having every large nation declare war on nations with 10+ nukes is the new stat hugging ;__; We're evil. We should have just done a no-nuke war, because that's how real non stat huggers do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick GhostWolf Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Your flag runners show different....so you realize we never had plans for Della Luna till the last second? If you looked back you would know I had the SDI for my first war to be ready.  You guys got better at organizing and preparing for the reality that in TE you will not be treated with mercy nor should you expect any (which is true for anyone in this game) but the flaw seems to be in the execution. Despite what appear to be your sincerest wishes, you are at war and once again on here complaining about being "downdeclared" which is exposes the most serious weakness in your approach. You seem to believe that when an enemy declares on you, it needs to be done on terms that you approve of. This has no resemblance whatsoever to reality. Without fail, if you are attacked the response you give on the forums is "we were downdeclared, this is unfair and that's why we're performing poorly and by the way whoever is attacking us is a flag-runner".  First of all, downdeclares happen. Plenty of what you claim are downdeclares are actually not downdeclares, but mismanagement of your resources turns an even fight into a downdeclare rather quickly. Second, nobody cares whether it's fair or not and it's amazing that you keep attempting to use that as a plank in your foreign policy. This is not a "fair" game. While it's quite noble of you to declare a "fair" war where spyops, nukes, and navies aren't used that kind of strategy won't get you very far against an opponent with a mentality suited to war. That nukes, navies, and spies are part of the game and failure to utilize them effectively is nothing more than poor warfighting skill.  And finally, you say "flag runner" as though it's a dirty word. It isn't, there is prestige associated with winning a flag. It means that you were able to be better than however many people did not win that particular flag in the criteria set for it and it comes off sounding jealous of a skill level that you seem to think you are incapable of ever having and with that kind of attitude it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombuator Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Your flag runners show different....so you realize we never had plans for Della Luna till the last second? If you looked back you would know I had the SDI for my first war to be ready.  It doesn't matter if you didn't have plans for Della Luna until the last second, you still did a non nuclear war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwise Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 OP had to do the same, as well. And I believe Citadel before us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 And I believe Citadel before us. Â Â Meanwhile, the TE Police always need someone to do our paperwork, while we patrol the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick GhostWolf Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014   Meanwhile, the TE Police always need someone to do our paperwork, while we patrol the streets.  Isn't that what the officers who use excessive force and stuff end up doing? "You shot a suspect in the mouth at point blank range. TWO DAYS ON A DESK, DO IT AGAIN AND IT'LL BE THREE!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014  It doesn't matter if you didn't have plans for Della Luna until the last second, you still did a non nuclear war. I recall looking over the nukes after your first wars and recall maybe 7-8 of your nations out of say 47 or so actually being nuked? The only thing I recall saying down declare to was an individual nation that declared on me. (Which I continue to war and coordinate to bring down) flag running is hardly a skill....donating money monthly and picking soft wars is butter. I just find it humerus many of you brag about your "elite" skills but I have yet to see you do anything on a fair level. (And yes, you can make fair wars if you wanted to. Throwing OP and perhaps warriors into this instead of a bunch of micro AA that have mediocre skills with the exception of TPC isn't very "skillful" everybody knows trying to coordinate with this many alliances is tricky enough. It just blows my mind you guys continue to make up excuses to I guess "please yourself with your action" perhaps? You mean "honorable" wars like these?http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1288http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1282 This guy was like 11-12k when declared by what 22k+http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1294http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1394 Alright I'm bored digging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I recall looking over the nukes after your first wars and recall maybe 7-8 of your nations out of say 47 or so actually being nuked? The only thing I recall saying down declare to was an individual nation that declared on me. (Which I continue to war and coordinate to bring down) flag running is hardly a skill....donating money monthly and picking soft wars is butter. I just find it humerus many of you brag about your "elite" skills but I have yet to see you do anything on a fair level. (And yes, you can make fair wars if you wanted to. Throwing OP and perhaps warriors into this instead of a bunch of micro AA that have mediocre skills with the exception of TPC isn't very "skillful" everybody knows trying to coordinate with this many alliances is tricky enough. It just blows my mind you guys continue to make up excuses to I guess "please yourself with your action" perhaps? You mean "honorable" wars like these?http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1288http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1282 This guy was like 11-12k when declared by what 22k+http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1294http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1394 Alright I'm bored digging  So, hitting a 25k NS nation with nearly a full load of nukes becomes UNCONSCIONABLE DOWNDECLARE because the guy isn't fighting back, something that could not have been foreseen given the serious opsec hit one receives when sending out "are you going to fight back or not?" PMs a day prior to declaring.  As for Lanister, I'm also fighting him. He's turtling. He's also launching nukes, but Gingervites got nuked by his other opponent. Combine those things and you end up with massive damage differentials, something that you would be aware of if not for so many early life encounters between your cranium and the parquet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick GhostWolf Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I recall looking over the nukes after your first wars and recall maybe 7-8 of your nations out of say 47 or so actually being nuked? The only thing I recall saying down declare to was an individual nation that declared on me. (Which I continue to war and coordinate to bring down) flag running is hardly a skill....donating money monthly and picking soft wars is butter. I just find it humerus many of you brag about your "elite" skills but I have yet to see you do anything on a fair level. (And yes, you can make fair wars if you wanted to. Throwing OP and perhaps warriors into this instead of a bunch of micro AA that have mediocre skills with the exception of TPC isn't very "skillful" everybody knows trying to coordinate with this many alliances is tricky enough. It just blows my mind you guys continue to make up excuses to I guess "please yourself with your action" perhaps? You mean "honorable" wars like these?http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1288http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1282 This guy was like 11-12k when declared by what 22k+http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1294http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1394 Alright I'm bored digging  You coordinate on an individual level and utilize IRC. I know for a fact TPC and Hellas do, TFK has a channel but I'm not sure how much they use it anymore. I think I've suggested that to Misfits leadership every round since you guys started and I don't know why you don't use it, you're only selling yourself short. It'll go a long way, trust me.  Or you can keep doing what you're doing. The results speak for themselves, it's not working so why not try actually using some of this advice? Start with the most commonly given - stop complaining about every war you get in, it doesn't change anything about the situation and only serves to annoy people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I recall looking over the nukes after your first wars and recall maybe 7-8 of your nations out of say 47 or so actually being nuked? The only thing I recall saying down declare to was an individual nation that declared on me. (Which I continue to war and coordinate to bring down) flag running is hardly a skill....donating money monthly and picking soft wars is butter. I just find it humerus many of you brag about your "elite" skills but I have yet to see you do anything on a fair level. (And yes, you can make fair wars if you wanted to. Throwing OP and perhaps warriors into this instead of a bunch of micro AA that have mediocre skills with the exception of TPC isn't very "skillful" everybody knows trying to coordinate with this many alliances is tricky enough. It just blows my mind you guys continue to make up excuses to I guess "please yourself with your action" perhaps? You mean "honorable" wars like these?http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1288http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1282 This guy was like 11-12k when declared by what 22k+http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1294http://tournament.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=1394 Alright I'm bored digging  Alright, hands against the wall and assume the position.  This is a stop and frisk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick GhostWolf Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Â Alright, hands against the wall and assume the position. Â This is a stop and frisk. Â You're being monitored for police brutality on a cell phone camera, that means you have to offer some Preparation H when you're finished and any "situation control" (pepper mace, tazer, sic'ing the dog on him) requires you to first yell "stop resisting!" Edited May 13, 2014 by Nick GhostWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung flow Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Nick you do realize I have 3-4 members popping in a war irc channel for this war correct? As in we are developing......but hey what do I know, I don't like run the alliance and have the inside scoop on things... Funny thing about that, I believe misfits and TPC are the main 2 to even be in the chatroom. I don't recall one Hellas guy but I could be wrong Edited May 13, 2014 by yung flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul711 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Nick you do realize I have 3-4 members popping in a war irc channel for this war correct? As in we are developing......but hey what do I know, I don't like run the alliance and have the inside scoop on things... Funny thing about that, I believe misfits and TPC are the main 2 to even be in the chatroom. I don't recall one Hellas guy but I could be wrong Can I join, I do love a good comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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