John Smith1 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Are the alliances in this game divided over political issues (democracy vs. totalitarianism, capitalism vs. socialism, what have you)? I can't find manifestos in any single place, so it is hard to tell the political shape of the world. I'm a new and idealistic nation that wants to be on the side of what it thinks of as "good". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CnaedmacAilpn Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Depends what you define as good, and that comes down to what you believe in politically as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith1 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Depends what you define as good, and that comes down to what you believe in politically as well. Well, yeah. And my own politics aren't the same as my nation, either. But I'd like to know where ideological lines are being drawn, if anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CnaedmacAilpn Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Difficult to say, because alliances are in general made of people from various countries, with wide and varying backgrounds, beliefs and political ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han fei zi Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 "Are the alliances in this game divided over political issues (democracy vs. totalitarianism, capitalism vs. socialism, what have you)?" - Not really but there are some political thoughts out there: http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Francoism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 They're divided by interest and influence, and threats to either of those cause conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 And sometimes by what they believe. You can read some alliance history and their charters and treaties on the wiki. It doesn't give the whole picture, but it gives a foundation for some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Alliances are more similar to gangs or tribes, rather than states or political organisms. IMO the only ideology that isn't just "role play" is neutrality. There are political structures, though. Some alliances elect their leaders, while other have an hereditarian sort of absolutism, and others adopt mixed statutes (leader-less egalitarian-ism included). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kremlin Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 It's global stability vs. neo-imperialist moralism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMeTheHorizon Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 There are a ton of alliances that are based upon the idea of Communism, leftist AA's. rightist AA's. Though, there aren't many idealogical wars anymore, there used to be some competition between some AA's for idealogical purposes. That is long gone now-a-days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Are the alliances in this game divided over political issues (democracy vs. totalitarianism, capitalism vs. socialism, what have you)? I can't find manifestos in any single place, so it is hard to tell the political shape of the world. I'm a new and idealistic nation that wants to be on the side of what it thinks of as "good". I highly encourage you to read the Little Red book. It is this world's most modern and revolutionary manifesto that breaks down power spheres by ideology. In the most recent war, the World united to face down the threat of neo-imperialism from NPO and her foederati allies. The Revolutionary Order Party is opposed to neo-imperialism and a number of other destabilizing ideologies and supports global unity and stability. Edited February 14, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 As far as I can tell, the only difference between most major alliances and factions is their names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) ITT neutrals and tywin recruit the poor new guy. :P Edited February 14, 2014 by Saladjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckao Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Tywin needs to work on recruiting a personality before moving onto people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith1 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I highly encourage you to read the Little Red book. It is this world's most modern and revolutionary manifesto that breaks down power spheres by ideology. In the most recent war, the World united to face down the threat of neo-imperialism from NPO and her foederati allies. The Revolutionary Order Party is opposed to neo-imperialism and a number of other destabilizing ideologies and supports global unity and stability. Awesome manifesto, Tywin! Very helpful. It doens't sound like my nation, Hippyland, belongs in the ROP, though. Would GATO be the closest alliance to a champion of democracy, peace and freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men. The Revolutionary Order Party is not an alliance, comrade. Any Nation of any alliance can be a member. Indeed, all of our members come from different alliances. Our forums are here, same as the book. Edited February 14, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) The last political war was BiPolar tbhUnless you want to count EQ Edited February 14, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 The last political war was BiPolar tbh Unless you want to count EQ Do you even know what politics is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrJLa Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Awesome manifesto, Tywin! Very helpful. It doens't sound like my nation, Hippyland, belongs in the ROP, though. Would GATO be the closest alliance to a champion of democracy, peace and freedom? Tywin is the village idiot, and politics don't really work like that on Bob. Politics here revolve around the wars we have once or twice a year, and what you think of the powers that be, and what you think about how different alliances have conducted themselves in both recent and ancient history. And it takes a long time to figure things out, because people refer to different alliances and blocs and events, and it's hard to keep track of who likes who, and who is pissed at whom because of what. You should get some recruitment messages. Check them out. Find an alliance that seems like it has active membership, and that has a vibe along the lines of what you're looking for. Lay low for a while, get involved with your alliance, learn how the things work, pay attention to what's happening with the politics. Then, when you have a better handle on things, you can always apply to a different alliance if you figure out there's one out there that better embodies what you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 My alliance, Kashmir, while not having much to do with traditional politics or ideologies, has a very succinct set of guiding ideological principles designed around the machinations of this cyberverse. Here are a few links:http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/117109-the-kashmir-way/http://cnkashmir.com/forums/index.php?topic=669.0 We have a lot of internal documents outlining out philosophy but we haven't made many public posts about it. Feel free to talk to any of us, we're pretty much in our own little world when it comes to stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Do you even know what politics is?yeahthis game is facebook with the poke system being replaced with a punch system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's global stability vs. neo-imperialist moralism. We are the neo-imperialist moralist side right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrJLa Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 We are the neo-imperialist moralist side right? Tywin will PM you an essay on the subject, but here's a link to read up on it in the meantime: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/120605-what-is-neo-imperialist-moralism-an-lnn-special-investigation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) MI6 is on the side of good. Join MI6. Edited February 15, 2014 by Gibsonator21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Most alliances are neither good nor evil (or are both) -- they are simply tied into a web of treaties. The typical global war on Planet Bob starts as either an incident (or pre-planned event) between two-four alliances, and everyone else gets dragged in through a Schlieffen-esque series of treaty ties. So two alliances, who have absolutely nothing against each other, may end up fighting each other over a cause neither of them gives two !@#$% about. Really. That's not even a cynic's view -- that is the truth. I fought the Blue Turtle Alliance as a member of Hooligans, and I don't think any of the guys I fought had any better understanding of why I was was fighting them than I did. Which was zero. C'est la guerre. Though not terribly up on CN politics, I can give you a rough idea of the landscape. Others mileage may vary, but here are some examples. Someone chime in if I'm way off base. THE NEUTRALS Don't sign treaties (much), and don't go to war (much) GPA TDO Pax Corvus GOP OBR THE RAIDERS Every world needs villains, and I think these guys would be considered the "black hats" because they have a history of raiding smaller alliances who don't have protection. Many do this, but these are a few alliances most famous for it. GOONs Non Grata Umbrella (actually not sure how much they raid, but they were allies with the other two and tend to get lumped in) DOOMSQUAD CLASSIC BAD GUYS MK NPO Kind of known for their villainy, maybe even reveled in it. MK is gone, however, and NPO has changed I guess. Still, a frequent insult hurled is "___________ is the new NPO." POLITICAL OPERATORS These alliances seem to have an "Ends justify the means" vibe. Not saying they aren't good allies -- they are just political players. TOP IRON C&G Bloc ALLIANCES THAT GENERALLY ENGENDER GOODWILL Of course everyone thinks they are good guys, but these alliances tend to have an easygoing, lawful, good-guyness to them. Again, your mileage may vary. And the Good Guys don't seem to win a lot of wars, TBH. PPO R&R MHA RIA OFF THE TREATY WEB Some alliances deliberately stay off the larger treaty web, but are NOT neutral. Kashmir Kaskus SRA URON As a new guy, and a self professed idealist, I would recommend staying clear of neutrals, bad guys, Political operators and off the treaty web types. Here's where I would go: You want a big, established alliance? R&R You want a smaller, more homey alliance? PPO You want something a little off the beaten path? Kashmir. Read their charter (or whatever they call it). If it's for you, it'll speak to you. You're Indonesian and you want to fight a war every three months? PM me -- have I got the place for you! I think you really can't go wrong with any of those -- read up on them on the wiki. All are active, will help you grow and learn the game, and satisfy your professed idealism. I've fought them all, oddly enough -- maybe that's the best way to get to know someone. Good people. Welcome to CN. EDITED TO CHANGE CATEGORY NAMES SO REY WILL STOP POSTING ITT Edited February 15, 2014 by Walshington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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