Holy Ruler Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) The posts in this thread don't help Val's reputation or make them look to be political geniuses. Claiming DT 'owes' Val something because of assistance years ago - which was repaid in eQ - makes Val look like worse opportunists than they are. Will be interesting to see who they treaty next and what backstabbing they pull on them as well. Edited January 2, 2014 by Holy Ruler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScotII Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Wait, Valhalla fought in eQ? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Wait, Valhalla fought in eQ? Really? Valhalla fought as AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScotII Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Valhalla fought as AI. Â AI fought as AI in eQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheus Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Valhalla are pretty good at weaseling out of holes by signing treaties at the right time. Lets see who's fool enough to fall for it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 ITT: Valhalla trades an ally that would burn for them for a bunch of guys who don't seem to like them that much O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caparo Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Â AI fought as AI in eQ. Â Valhalla merged to make AI then left to become Valhalla. Valhalla = AI = Valhalla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014  Says a member an alliance that took the entirety of the last major war off.  :popcorn:   I'm not aware that NpO actually asked for our help, TOP surely did not (no treaty).  There were also very serious concerns that we would be countered at some point. It would be interesting after the war to find out why a counter never materialized against either Valhalla or GOONS on the NPO front.  [spoiler]That said...I'll just say if it were my call I would have perhaps been more aggressive in another sector, and leave it at that.[/spoiler] If only you would have defended MI6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I'm not aware that NpO actually asked for our help, TOP surely did not (no treaty). Â There were also very serious concerns that we would be countered at some point. It would be interesting after the war to find out why a counter never materialized against either Valhalla or GOONS on the NPO front. Â MI6 asked for your help. You refused. There was also the point early on in the war when chefjoe disrupted the battle plan by putting Valhalla's top tier into peace mode on the emptiest of pretexts and then refusing to bring them out against NPO; mind you, this was neither the first nor the last time he refused to abide by the plan. And while many other alliances in the coalition have declared war on numerous organizations from the opposition, up to and including wars entered via ghost DoWs, Valhalla has limited itself to that days-late strike against NPO. Â You needn't bother with these rebuttals. People know more. Edited January 2, 2014 by Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah, pretending that AI wasn't a successor state to Valhalla at the time and that what DT did wasn't in consideration for their relationship with Valhalla is pretty ridiculous. I seem to remember a lot of rhetoric from Valhalla leadership when they reformed about them subsequently owing a debt, actually. It was taken about as seriously as it was likely meant, fortunately. Â A nonnuclear policy in 2009 is a completely different animal from a nonnuclear policy in 2013, and acting as if there weren't plenty of upper tier targets yall could have supported your allies on or that yall even intended to use yall's upper tier to support your allies in the first place is pretty funny at this point. Good show. Â Keep digging though. I'm sure there's buried treasure somewhere in that pile of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScotII Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Â Valhalla merged to make AI then left to become Valhalla. Valhalla = AI = Valhalla. Good to know you see us as the true successor state of AI. and those that continue to fly the AI banner are fakes. I don't agree but hey, you might be right. Â As for top tier crap, the whole top tier on Bob are a ****ing joke, not sure how you lot keep yourself entertained when nothing really happens with you. Be it Valhalla or not, just as bad as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Good to know you see us as the true successor state of AI. and those that continue to fly the AI banner are fakes. I don't agree but hey, you might be right. lol - if that's how you read that ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScotII Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Does the "=" sign mean a different thing on Planet Bob. I know the leaders on here to a man do not know what Mutual and Coalition mean but didn't know they changed the meaning of "=" too Edited January 2, 2014 by MadScotII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 More obtuse than acute, but definitely not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Last two actually. Amusing how Valhalla has tried to do so this time around. Â Edit: At the current rate we could fight in one major war for every five you do and still have the same damage output per nation. Should we sit the next two as well to make it fair? Â That would make such statements only confirms how clueless you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScotII Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 More obtuse than acute, but definitely not right. So, is that a yes or a no. Those are the easy kind of questions. But hey you do the hardman thing and turn to name calling. Well done, from me to you, with much love xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 More obtuse than acute, but definitely not right. Â Is it this? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Guys please relocate this to geometry jokes thread, it's under elementary mathematics topic. Thank you auctor for our new series, Fun With Triangles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerschbs Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 If only you would have defended MI6.  I warned Chim that Valhalla was full of snakes and is generally untrustworthy as an alliance.  And yes, I am not to proud to say I told you so Chim, my lovely little teapot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 So, is that a yes or a no. Those are the easy kind of questions. But hey you do the hardman thing and turn to name calling. You consider that a 'hardman thing'? What the hell has happened to the OWF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBRaiders Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited)  That would make such statements only confirms how clueless you are.  You know you've been owned when Hal busts out the clueless card. Best. comeback. ever. Edited January 2, 2014 by TBRaiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 You and more so, your alliance, set the bar in those categories for many years, I guess you would know eh? I mean hell we had to go nuclear 30hrs after a lame mistake was made....TOP made it thru an entire war doing the same. Were far worse at such things then you. *tips hat at your achievement* Excuse you, we went through several other wars with a non-first strike nuke policy. I'll list them: GW2, GW3, Dove War, and WoTC. You were apart of the last two and didnt make a peep about it, strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coloradia Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014  You know you've been owned when Hal busts out the clueless card. Best. comeback. ever. I may have a spreadsheet worth of data, but Hal called me clueless.   :facepalm:  It's evident I'm out of my league here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) too lazy to quote everyone. The reason we compare it to what you(TOP) did 5 years ago is because that's what everyone else compares it to. Are we talking about the same plans were you(TOP) were slotted 90 nations on the NPO front? Then you PM half of those assigned. Keep hiding behind your strategy of your AA being at a disadvantage in the mid-lower tiers when the coalition out numbered all tiers at least 3:1. Steve, love the double left hook. I wish you and NG the best of luck moving forward. DT doesn't owe Val sh*t and if anything, yes, we owe DT one. Feanor, the two wars we were apart of, which ones did we actually fight you? If we weren't fighting each other directly I could give two sh*ts of your policies. Edited January 2, 2014 by rileyaddaff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conistonslim Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Another obligatory STA reminder Valhalla blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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