Opaque Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 According to a thread on their own forums, FARK possess an NAP with NATO. And as we all know, FARK, as a part of XX, declared on NATO two days ago. More evidence of treaty here. So my question is this: do six year old treaties still matter, or is this a non-issue? Is a treaty a treaty? Are NAPs, even if they are active, irrelevant in the era of coalition warfare? What are your thoughts on this matter, Planet Bob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Bloc treaties generally overrule NAP treaties-probably the main reason those treaties stop existing was people began to regard treaties as having a hierarchy, therefore they don't have to follow NAP when they have an MDP. Or more likely the relevant parties forgot it really existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Fark kicking the crap out of NATO saves us the trouble. NAP be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 This didn't stop Fark from declaring on NATO in PB-NpO War. Imma guess it's just bad paperwork and probably got canceled ages ago back when dumping tons of NAP's was the *in* thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) They fought a couple wars ago, as well: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98242 Doubt that the treaty is active/anyone cares. Edit: goddamn you, Auctor. Edited December 15, 2013 by Schad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 FARK you monsters! I am in the middle of ripping up all the christmas cards I had handwritten out for you, how dare you ignore our NAP which is clearly still in existence :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I see through your schemes now, Cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Little do those fools know, Fark is going to chain through our NAP and hit TOP. Platysphere will rue this day, rue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Coulson Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) FARK has always been very big on Aqua unity and FARK, MHA, and NATO were in an MADP bloc called Trident for a very long time. Also, the three alliances were also signatories of several Aqua unity treaties back in the day. NATO's on Blue now and does not list that treaty on its forums so I'm assuming that this is just bad record keeping. Edited December 15, 2013 by Monroe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Little do those fools know, Fark is going to chain through our NAP and hit TOP. Platysphere will rue this day, rue! BiPolar 2.0! Curses! Edited December 15, 2013 by Bob Ilyani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) I remember Trident very well. At least MHA and Fark have remained the same sort of. NATO kind of went Continuum to Hegemony Loyalist to Blue NATO to kind-of-quiet NATO. It's sad how friendships change though. :( Never would have even suspected this in 2008. Also I am pretty sure this was cancelled when NATO had to cancel all of it's treaties post-karma or some other time in quiet. I don't know, but I doubt it's still in effect. Edited December 15, 2013 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valtamdraugr Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 NATO are a good bunch, I know they caught a lot of shit for the RoK debacle, so I am biased.. but so what... I have many friends in FARK as well...I can only say, "Well duh. NAP vs. anything else?".. Aqua love never left the launch-pad and NATO has always been tightest with NPO...it is what it is. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler with Plan X Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Declaration 4 ? /unless it isn?t This agreement becomes a worthless peace of ones and zeros if any signatory fingers get aggressively put into the collective arses of alliances that either signatory alliance has defense treaties with. As NATO has, in the past, declared aggressively on our allies, as I'm fairly sure we've done to them, this treaty is not currently active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Coulson Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I remember Trident very well. At least MHA and Fark have remained the same sort of. NATO kind of went Continuum to Hegemony Loyalist to Blue NATO to kind-of-quiet NATO. It's sad how friendships change though. :( Never would have even suspected this in 2008. Also I am pretty sure this was cancelled when NATO had to cancel all of it's treaties post-karma or some other time in quiet. I don't know, but I doubt it's still in effect. I'm sure if you asked NATO, they'd say that Aqua changed and they didn't feel comfortable there anymore, so they moved to Blue where they felt they'd be more welcome. Also, MHA was in Continuum too and was treatied to NPO for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Those Farkers are turrible, turrible people :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm sure if you asked NATO, they'd say that Aqua changed and they didn't feel comfortable there anymore, so they moved to Blue where they felt they'd be more welcome. Also, MHA was in Continuum too and was treatied to NPO for a very long time. Yes but we are talking about NATO not MHA. Also aren't NATO still allied to NPO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 nobody cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Coulson Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Yes but we are talking about NATO not MHA. Also aren't NATO still allied to NPO?You're the one that implied that NATO had somehow changed, I was merely responding that it takes two people to break a relationship. I have a feeling that if you asked them, NATO would say that Aqua, including Fark and MHA, left them.To address the initial point, Fark are one of the most independent and straight shooting alliances out there. They are extremely careful of the treaties that they sign and I don't believe that they would wantonly violate them. Most likely, this a paperwork error. Edited December 16, 2013 by Monroe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 NAP treaties mean nothing at all unless you are the Order of the Black Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EViL0nE Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We aren't attacking NATO aggressively, so this treaty hasn't been violated.We are tying cute little ribbons to all of our nukes before firing them.We're also dropping hundreds of teddy bears along with our carpet bombing.See? We're attacking them lovingly. Think Ike Turner, we just love them so much it hurts (them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I think this video is relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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