Mosin Nagant Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Also the issue at hand doesn't really seem to be spying, it's infiltration and trying to take control or influence how UCR acts. Even worse if than regular old spying if you ask me. Let us not forget that this ^ is what happened here. I like how almost instantly people blamed DieLinke for something. INT seems to think they are hanging serious dong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Mao Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Also the issue at hand doesn't really seem to be spying, it's infiltration and trying to take control or influence how UCR acts. Even worse if than regular old spying if you ask me. Let us not forget that this ^ is what happened here. I like how almost instantly people blamed DieLinke for something. INT seems to think they are hanging serious dong It's simply amusing that Geli was made head of Foreign Affairs after being in the alliance for two days. There's a reason we joke about these things.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Favorite part was comment from Comrade Craig - as usual. No wonder he keeps returning to INT DL ain't doing any spying. This info came to me out of the blue from the mouth of an upset INT member. No spying involved on our behalf.Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIllingInnocent Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) It would seem that Geli was honorable enough, but even when asking INT officials about why he came to the UCR and they blatantly lie to us, its rather disheartening and unbecoming. Some of us wanted to improve relations with INT after the shit fest in the past, but this action may have permanently damaged relations as this has ruffled quiet a number of feathers in all the member alliances of DL. Craig we ran out of bottled water about an hour ago, care for a juice box? Edited November 14, 2013 by KIllingInnocent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crownguard Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 It would seem that Geli was honorable enough, but even when asking INT officials about why he came to the UCR and they blatantly lie to us, its rather disheartening and unbecoming. Some of us wanted to improve relations with INT after the shit fest in the past, but this action may have permanently damaged relations as this has ruffled quiet a number of feathers in all the member alliances of DL. Craig we ran out of bottled water about an hour ago, care for a juice box? Don't quite know what you're on about, I've talked to Comrade V directly, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Int can hardly say that given the forum access they've given their spy and the conversation between Crownguard and the spy. It is what it is. Not sure we want war over it. It's important that it's public knowledge though. All I see is a guy with a diplomatic mask from UCR talking to members of INT about trying to move 3 half dead micros, that nobody on Planet Bob has any respect for, into merging into INT down the road. I do not see him posting screen shots of the other sides forums or revealing any secrets only talking very frankly about trying to unite the commie alliances before the others fade away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejack Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) All I see is a guy with a diplomatic mask from UCR talking to members of INT about trying to move 3 half dead micros, that nobody on Planet Bob has any respect for, into merging into INT down the road. I do not see him posting screen shots of the other sides forums or revealing any secrets only talking very frankly about trying to unite the commie alliances before the others fade away. I politely disagree about the vibrance and community standing our friends and allies in the Union Of Communist Republics have. Perhaps they are not very loud and flashy on the big stage but they bring the party when the music starts. Now about that promised beer... Edited November 14, 2013 by EEjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 it's like you finally did a 180 degrees and figuratively issued a public apology, many of our more emotionally-charged members, who held anti-INT sentiment, were ready to don the INT AA to help you against NOR, but then this was brought to our attention and that's why we can't have nice things Since when did LSF need anyone's approval (or AA) to declare war on NoR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Well then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 All I see is a guy with a diplomatic mask from UCR talking to members of INT about trying to move 3 [u]half dead micros, that nobody on Planet Bob has any respect for,[/u] into merging into INT down the road. I do not see him posting screen shots of the other sides forums or revealing any secrets only talking very frankly about trying to unite the commie alliances before the others fade away. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. :v: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 I politely disagree about the vibrance and community standing our friends and allies in the Union Of Communist Republics have. Perhaps they are not very loud and flashy on the big stage but they bring the party when the music starts. Now about that promised beer... They seem to let anybody who walks in the door run the place, that is not a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDB Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Ok, clearly the beer is lie. But hell, maybe some bottled water? -Craig i bought a pony keg of icehouse, and it hasn't been touched yet. seriously all you do is complain craig. jesus stalin christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Is war where this is going? LSF/DL effectively entering in defence of NoR. Good god that would be comedy of the purest gold. Oh God please let this be a thing, I want to watch Hereno's head explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejack Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 They seem to let anybody who walks in the door run the place, that is not a good sign. If that is true that also might mean they have a good direction that does not need forceful leadership. Our relationship has been one of consistency and good communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryraccoon Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Ok, clearly the beer is lie. But hell, maybe some bottled water? -Craig Don't know about you but I am drinking beer... Keep up the great efforts of uniting the commies INT. They will all get on board sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 What UCR have done is let someone who's active and interested take a role, someone known to them, not some random who's turned up from nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Since when did LSF need anyone's approval (or AA) to declare war on NoR? since never, we are talking about LSF members leaving the LSF for INT to fight the good fight, but guess that is out of the question now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 wow what a trainwreck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 since never, we are talking about LSF members leaving the LSF for INT to fight the good fight, but guess that is out of the question now That's the point. If you want to fight NoR, you don't have to join INT (temporarily or otherwise) to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDB Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 since never, we are talking about LSF members leaving the LSF for INT to fight the good fight, but guess that is out of the question now i mean you can still come, i have an open invitation. punch and pie will be served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Are you saying Int would receive widespread support if UCR used this CB? Are you saying any of Int's allies would not "defend" Int? I mean, we are talking about the same alliances, yours included, who are on the "defensive" side of a war started by overt aggression on NSO/NG's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 That's the point. If you want to fight NoR, you don't have to join INT (temporarily or otherwise) to do so. the LSF alliance has obligations it has committed to at the current time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaque Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) the LSF alliance has obligations it has committed to at the current time Your obligations have nothing to do with your ability or inability to make a Declaration of War. I hate love to play semantics, but and I hope you now understand what he's getting at. Edited November 14, 2013 by Opaque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Your obligations have nothing to do with your ability or inability to make a Declaration of War. I hate love to play semantics, but and I hope you now understand what he's getting at. i understand, but no one has said anything about LSF declaring war, or the ability to, besides you and him, and i already answer his original question Edited November 14, 2013 by Anarquista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Hardin Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 good lord..when did spying become a part of this game....i'm appalled at the treachery and deceit :smug: <3 UCR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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