Steve Buscemi Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 http://www.cybernations.net/all_sanctions_view.asp Could I get some clarification on this. Did Umbrella just start using sanctions as a tool of war? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaque Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 http://www.cybernations.net/all_sanctions_view.asp Could I get some clarification on this. Did Umbrella just start using sanctions as a tool of war? Thank you. Seems like they embraced the Kaskus example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 yeah kaskus (or at least a member) has done this tactic against members of the revolutionary bloc, Die Linke from both LSF and SWF! i have screenshots to prove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 The only answer to this question is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Maximus Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Lets hope so, it would make stuff interesting during wartime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letterkenny Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Hasn't this been done many a time in the past, or is there something new here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Let the sanction wars begin! Seems like they embraced the Kaskus example. yeah kaskus (or at least a member) has done this tactic against members of the revolutionary bloc, Die Linke from both LSF and SWF! i have screenshots to prove it The nations came from TOP/DBDC/SPATR, to blame Kaskus for people who wanted to hit the top LSF nation is misguided. If you notice the nations also sanctioned the LSF nation they're fighting. Edited November 10, 2013 by Commander shepard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 You realize that Methax was DBDC when he hit two NoR nations? He also has 0 days seniority and is pending. How about actually contact Umb gov to see if this was sanctioned by their gov. If it is, oh well. If it is not, oh well. Just amusing that you put so little effort into this Steve. I expected at least a little research effort on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Let the sanction wars begin! The nations came from TOP/DBDC/SPATR, to blame Kaskus for people who wanted to hit the top LSF nation is misguided. If you notice the nations also sanctioned the LSF nation they're fighting. we have been speaking with a kaskus diplo about this guy (BONES), even before he was in kaskus he was in spatr (kaskus MDOAP ally), now he is an approved member of kaskus, and the diplo seems to not know or acting purposely ignorant about the situation, it's not misguided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 we have been speaking with a kaskus diplo about this guy (BONES), even before he was in kaskus he was in spatr (kaskus MDOAP ally), now he is an approved member of kaskus, and the diplo seems to not know or acting purposely ignorant about the situation, it's not misguided And before that he was in TOP and DBDC and pretty much still is de-facto member of DBDC. Bones is getting 36 votes in the senate, if I had to guess TOP accounts for a high enough percentage of that vote. It is misguided to blame Kaskus for it because it probably would have happened anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 And before that he was in TOP and DBDC and pretty much still is de-facto member of DBDC. Bones is getting 36 votes in the senate, if I had to guess TOP accounts for a high enough percentage of that vote. It is misguided to blame Kaskus for it because it probably would have happened anyway. Uhhh what? This Bones guy has never been in TOP nor do we vote for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 The fact that people are only just using sanctions as a war tactic blows my mind. Didn't anyone see how effective it was in 08? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Lightyear Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 There is nothing wrong with using game mechanics on warfare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnish Commie Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 You realize that Methax was DBDC when he hit two NoR nations? He also has 0 days seniority and is pending. How about actually contact Umb gov to see if this was sanctioned by their gov. If it is, oh well. If it is not, oh well. Just amusing that you put so little effort into this Steve. I expected at least a little research effort on your part. You can see from his aid tab that he's been on Umb AA for at least 11.10 - 02.11. He most likely just jumped AAs for the sanction and to hit the NoR nations and is now back on Umb, though pending. Will be interesting to see if Umb will reaccept him. Personally never was a huge friend of using sanctions as weapons of war. Might be because I've been in a sphere where most of the alliances have managed to live harmoniously enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Oh well, I guess this opens the gates. Thanks for increasing the tedium by forcing us all to re-align trades 10 times a day :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 All tools are legitimate in defending the realm from extremism and destabilizing threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuliSher Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 What next? Spies to our forums? Sending malwares to us? Hacking our accounts? IRL threats? All that already seen and experienced in -08. Try something new k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I saw people disgracefully using nukes too. We should all sign a treaty not to use nukes CMs Navies and sanctions Its just not right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 You can see from his aid tab that he's been on Umb AA for at least 11.10 - 02.11. He most likely just jumped AAs for the sanction and to hit the NoR nations and is now back on Umb, though pending. Will be interesting to see if Umb will reaccept him. Personally never was a huge friend of using sanctions as weapons of war. Might be because I've been in a sphere where most of the alliances have managed to live harmoniously enough. Methax has been on the Umbrella AA since the first week of April prior to which he was on DBDC, which he switched back to briefly this week when declaring on NoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 http://www.cybernations.net/all_sanctions_view.asp Could I get some clarification on this. Did Umbrella just start using sanctions as a tool of war? Thank you. Your great allies in NSO used it against Kaskus and I didn't recall you complaining about it at the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Vengeance Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Planet Bob needs more hugs and cupcakes :popcorn: Nah! Edited November 10, 2013 by General Vengeance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Planet Bob needs more hugs and cupcakes :popcorn: Nah! Don't worry, I have returned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMercy Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) What next? Spies to our forums? Sending malwares to us? Hacking our accounts? IRL threats? All that already seen and experienced in -08. Try something new k? Yeah, we are already working on a virus that changes your government to communism and then deletes the "Edit my nation" button. Seriously get your head out of your .... . There is a difference between a game feature and the things you have listed. Personally, I am not a fan of sanctions and I doubt it was something planned by Umbrella. Edit: Is it fair to use nukes on non nuclear nations? Is tech raiding fair? No. So I'd like to see the alliances complaining about todays policies, to change theirs tomorrow. Will you stop tech raiding tomorrow, Buscemi? Edited November 10, 2013 by NoMercy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Surprised it took d34th as the last post on page 1 to bring us up :P It's a feature in the game, it's a "political feature" .. In the real world, sanctions are used to slow down war efforts by those "strong enough to enforce them" (not to be directly interpreted as a 'might makes right' statement - but as a recognition of the requirements to be able to achieve/hold/maintain/utilize said feature) - it's just been translated into the game. Unfortunately with restrictions to how many a senator can sanction though. It gives a good reason to work out that battle for a senate seat, and brings back its importance and weight as a tool in relationships and political strength of an alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Your great allies in NSO used it against Kaskus and I didn't recall you complaining about it at the time...He only recently decided to become a moralist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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