Help After War

[buckaroo13]

Join the Help After War alliance if you need help after a war.  Also join if you are generous enough to help a struggling nation.  First few joiners get to help write up the charter.

[Krzyzewskiville]

The problem for most people isn't how to survive after the war, it's about how to avoid the war in the first place.

Edited October 31, 2013 by Krzyzewskiville

[KingBilly1]

You are a very aggressive nation/player.... so what help would you be to these nations? you would have to become a neutral alliance for their safety

[Sardonic]

You could have at least picked a better name.  Like "Humanitarians United for Radical Resistance"(HURR) or something.

[Fox Fire]

"You are a very aggressive nation/player"

 

On that note, I must agree and say, a nation your size shouldn't be so aggressive.

At your size, you should really try to avoid war as much as you can. Your only focus should be selling tech and growing. Start some wars when you have about 3 or 4k infra (minimum) and a bit more weight to bargain with.

Or, join a real AA that can actually teach you all the mechanics, equations and best tactics. I think all new nations deserve to start in an established alliance for the sake of learning. And its perfectly OK to admit you dont know it all. Ive played for years and I still have to use guides for certain things. I have to read the tech buying formula from 1-100 every time. I still have to use our growth guide in TE. 

Theres really ALOT of stuff to learn about this game. Took me at least a year to actually know WTF I was really doing.

Its OK to be a noob. As long as you embrace it, you too, will be embraced. :)

[ccabal86]

Its OK to be a noob. As long as you embrace it, you too, will be embraced. :)

 

.....once you find an alliance that's willing to take you. After your grand display here, that will probably not be that many :laugh:

[buckaroo13]

Alliance deleted.  I hope people make something similar to it though.

[smurthwaite]

2.5 hours heh?  Makes me wonder how some of these AAs have lasted for years.

[RevolutionaryRebel]

2.5 hours heh?  Makes me wonder how some of these AAs have lasted for years.

Clearly they don't have enough solid leaders like buckaroo13.

[Williambonney]

I wonder if that is a new record?  Congrats on the achievement if so Buckaroo. 

[andyt2k]

"I just made a new alliance"

 

*Types on computer*

 

"Aaaaaaaand gone!"

[Nick GhostWolf]

"You are a very aggressive nation/player"

 

On that note, I must agree and say, a nation your size shouldn't be so aggressive.

At your size, you should really try to avoid war as much as you can. Your only focus should be selling tech and growing. Start some wars when you have about 3 or 4k infra (minimum) and a bit more weight to bargain with.

Or, join a real AA that can actually teach you all the mechanics, equations and best tactics. I think all new nations deserve to start in an established alliance for the sake of learning. And its perfectly OK to admit you dont know it all. Ive played for years and I still have to use guides for certain things. I have to read the tech buying formula from 1-100 every time. I still have to use our growth guide in TE. 

Theres really ALOT of stuff to learn about this game. Took me at least a year to actually know WTF I was really doing.

Its OK to be a noob. As long as you embrace it, you too, will be embraced. :)

 

This.  This this this.  CyberNations has lots of ins and outs and subtleties that are just not apparent and so easy to miss that without learning from people who already know, you're gonna miss them.  Also, looking at how Pacifica's been manhandling you, I would say TE might be a good place to go to learn how to fight a war.  You won't be protecting anyone at this rate (looks to me like you need protection, mostly from yourself), and you won't be helping anyone after war financially unless you have money.  I've been here a year and while I've got a pretty good idea on a lot of things, there's simply too much to do it on your own.  Everyone's a noob at some point.

[RevolutionaryRebel]

And you know what; why isn't there a way for people like this guy learning without being forced to choose between an array of Alliances they know nothing about? That in my mind, is a key reason why these people crop up now and then and one of the many factors which has cruelled the interest of those seeking to create a nation for themselves.

 

The current paradigm leads to many nations unwittingly ending up in terrible Alliances and expects far more of new nations than we really should. If more established alliances than my own are unwilling to tackle this problem, then it seems the onus  shall pass on to those that actually remember what it is like to be a new nation leader struggling to comprehend an environment so engulfed in historical BS that it can hardly see its way into the future.

Edited November 1, 2013 by RevolutionaryRebel

[Nick GhostWolf]

And you know what; why isn't there a way for people like this guy learning without being forced to choose between an array of Alliances they know nothing about? That in my mind, is a key the reason why these people crop up now and then and one of the many factors which has cruelled the interest of those seeking to create a nation for themselves.

 

The current paradigm leads to many nations unwittingly ending up in terrible Alliances and expects far more of new nations than we really should. If more established alliances than my own are unwilling to tackle this problem, then it seems the onus  shall pass on to those that actually remember what it is like to be a new nation leader struggling to comprehend an environment so engulfed in historical BS that it can hardly see its way into the future.

 

I see what you're saying here, but if someone does not learn how the game is played (and I don't think anyone would deny that this is a detailed process), how the game politics work, and how to effectively manage an alliance, how can anyone be expected to change it?  Planet Bob is Planet Bob, and the history and culture is part of what makes it appealing and fascinating even if the history and culture can best be described as schizophrenic.  Furthermore, if you don't know anything about the existing alliances whether they're ancient or relatively recent, how can anyone be expected to compete with them?  You have to factor in the social climate in the game too - being able to form a stable trade circle that confers the bonuses you need, setting up fair tech deals where the new player doesn't get completely screwed, making friends so you don't find yourself hopelessly outmatched in a war or permanently tethered in peace mode.  In the end CyberNations requires you to play the long game - building a substantial warchest, developing wonders and infra at the right pace.  This is a game but it is not a simple one.  There are alliances that welcome newcomers immediately and give them opportunities to get involved quickly, but if you want your feet wet in something other than your own blood it's probably wise to get with the program because railing against it just gets people nowhere.

[bart416]

This.  This this this.  CyberNations has lots of ins and outs and subtleties that are just not apparent and so easy to miss that without learning from people who already know, you're gonna miss them.  Also, looking at how Pacifica's been manhandling you, I would say TE might be a good place to go to learn how to fight a war.  You won't be protecting anyone at this rate (looks to me like you need protection, mostly from yourself), and you won't be helping anyone after war financially unless you have money.  I've been here a year and while I've got a pretty good idea on a lot of things, there's simply too much to do it on your own.  Everyone's a noob at some point.

 

In the end it all really boils down to the mandatory "CN-101: Learning how to keep your mouth shut and be patient." class at Cybernations University (Location: Headcrab Road 2, Ravenholm; Disclaimer: Next semester starts in February, All sign-ups are on a non-refundable basis, 100 technology tuition fee, classes might involve just reading the entire CN board).

 

I'm quite certain that, [b]if[/b] he would just be willing to admit his defeat and promises to first learn about CN a bit, that a neutral alliance would let him in and teach him about the game mechanics. He clearly has enough energy to do a lot of things, but it's somewhat misdirected. He might have done well if he started playing when planet bob was just conceived.

[buckaroo13]

I was never in for a war with the NPO.  It was just a distraction for NpO.

[bart416]

I was never in for a war with the NPO.  It was just a distraction for NpO.

Wouldn't it have been better to "distract" NSO by that logic?

[buckaroo13]

I was distracting to HELP the NpO.  I was in constant communication with the NSO, misleading them.

[Krzyzewskiville]

I was distracting to HELP the NpO.  I was in constant communication with the NSO, misleading them.

 

Please, keep giving yourself more credit for a war that even Pacifica knew has been in the making for months.

[buckaroo13]

I barely had anything to do with it.  I just kept several of their top ranking members busy making fun of me while the NpO finished building up and attacked.

[Williambonney]

I was distracting to HELP the NpO.  I was in constant communication with the NSO, misleading them.

 

Next your going to tell us that it was the one armed man that really did it? 

[Branimir]

It is possible that the joke went stale at this point. Being that something is actually happening in our world now, time to let go this nonsense.

[buckaroo13]

Nope.  The NpO did all the work, I just kept the NSO busy while the NpO finished up.  To make it convincing, I attacked NPO nations.  I will begin to negotiate now.

[Nick GhostWolf]

Negotiate... for what, and with what?  You've had your daily dose of attention for today, now go home.

[buckaroo13]

Negotiate with the NPO.  I am ready for peace with them.  I will negotiate through Fox Fire.