Kochers Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 For the purposes of the MDP Web (assuming Kashmir will one day be in the top 80), would it be the simplest to classify this arrangement as an ODoAP, or ODP? Basically, does the possibility of aggressive action exist within the broad terms of this statement/doctrine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 For the purposes of the MDP Web (assuming Kashmir will one day be in the top 80), would it be the simplest to classify this arrangement as an ODoAP, or ODP? Basically, does the possibility of aggressive action exist within the broad terms of this statement/doctrine? The possibility exists with[i]out[/i] the broad terms of this statement/doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I've never understand why people do these things. It's similar to everyone same cookie cutter alliance announcing how different they are. I've never understand it, either. Everyone same cookie cutter alliance are/is/am so ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 For the purposes of the MDP Web (assuming Kashmir will one day be in the top 80), would it be the simplest to classify this arrangement as an ODoAP, or ODP? Basically, does the possibility of aggressive action exist within the broad terms of this statement/doctrine? I see it as an oDoAP bloc that any alliance can join personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 I've never understand it, either. Everyone same cookie cutter alliance are/is/am so ridiculous. I'm glad you agree. OOC: my phone sometimes changes words on me. In this case it should read every not everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Oh no, I want people to read and understand the announcement. But, I find it bothersome when they try to tell me what it is or what it means. We know what it is and what it means, we wrote the thing. Thanks everyone for the kind words. Our intent here was to publicly state the feelings shared between the NSO and Kashmir, that is all. Sorry for the head scratching. At the end of the day, you're relying on a traditionally styled document to relay your novel concept, which is fine, but you must understand that in doing so, you're using that traditional format and common vocabulary, and that is the prism through which everyone will interpret it for you. If you did not mean "signatory" then you should not have used the word signatory, and the confusion caused by that choice is at your feet. Don't berate the confused for the confusion you started. "Party" would have been the better word. Good luck, hope things work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 At the end of the day, you're relying on a traditionally styled document to relay your novel concept, which is fine, but you must understand that in doing so, you're using that traditional format and common vocabulary, and that is the prism through which everyone will interpret it for you. If you did not mean "signatory" then you should not have used the word signatory, and the confusion caused by that choice is at your feet. Don't berate the confused for the confusion you started. "Party" would have been the better word. Good luck, hope things work out. Schat, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodFury Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 What is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 What is this? A written paperless treaty bloc of individuals with signatories who aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 A written paperless treaty bloc of individuals with signatories who aren't. Would you prefer an audio file with audio 'yay us' 's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Would you prefer an audio file with audio 'yay us' 's? Was I incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Was I incorrect? In the fact that it's written, no. But, boy genius, 'written' is a subjective word in this world of ours where EVERYTHING is in 'writing.' We could be 5up3r133t and 'write' stuff like "In addition to the treaties listed below Kaskus currently holds numerous treaties that aren't public. These agreements are equally important and recognized." But then, that's also been done - hasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) In the fact that it's written, no. But, boy genius, Hey, bub, since your skin is so thin you can't bear questions about something you purposefully made confusing, allow me to stop asking questions and give you some advice since that seems to be what you needed rather than my well-wishes: When CoJ doesn't want public treaties, we just say "We signed a treaty with X, that's all." Next time save the skin on your butt and take our lead. Edited May 19, 2013 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 and take our lead. Sure thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodFury Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 What happened to the paperless route Kashmir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Nothing happened to it, it remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodFury Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Looks like paper, smells like paper, is a paper agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Looks like paper, smells like paper, is a paper agreement. Is it a nice paper smell, like a fresh-off-the-presses and still warm last research paper during finals week before you're finished the semester, or is it that kinda musty smell you get when you find an old book in your grandma's attic which may or may not have water damage? This is important and may determine the future of the NSO/Prototype relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 No codified treaty or terms has been proffered and none exists. That's not to mention that there are no obligations that would constitute a bloc. In other words a gentleman's agreement, just one that we didn't feel compelled to keep private. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 So this is pretty much an Optional Defense and Optional Aggression Pact between Kashmir and NSO, with the possibility for more to sign on later? Congrats I suppose, but no need to try making it sound more complicated or revolutionary than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 this is raising a lot of people's blood pressure, I have a feeling we shouldn't have done it. I feel so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bundy Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 We should do this more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Holton Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) A written paperless treaty bloc of individuals with signatories who aren't. I don't usually admire your posting, but this was a gem. If you need something to compare it to you can look at our Moldavi Doctrine. This is Kashmir's thing, we just agree with it. Edited May 20, 2013 by Master Holton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 this is raising a lot of people's blood pressure, I have a feeling we shouldn't have done it. I feel so badSchatt has already had an entire gram of aspirin in the past four hours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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