LexLuthor18 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Its not nice to call GOONS asses just because you can't spell. And really, they will be rebuilt, stronger than before. I am leaving, but when I come back the Goon Order of Candy Asses is history. I'll make sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Lord of Funk Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Nice fight International and ODN. Class acts. I also enjoyed ZIing the GOONS Pecuniator and stealing all his nukes. GLF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beets Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I am leaving, but when I come back the Goon Order of Candy Asses is history. I'll make sure of that. My ass is the most delicious of all candies. Bite me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Okay guys good job! Now, let's roll Polar! :v: I like this plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Hats off to all my opponents yall wrecked my nation well. All things considered though ill keep the shotgun loaded as I have a feeling someone will be knocking on my door again soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) No one is saying that. I simply pointed out to Omni that he has no reason to puff his chest out and say y'all beat the shit out of anyone, much less Umbrella. I think you mistook my "we" as me personally instead of what it meant "Equilibrium". It's ok, I know it's difficult to interpret pronouns sometimes. Caliph was the one who brought up Argent, all posts before that are referring to the coalition as a whole. Edited March 28, 2013 by Omniscient1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 So GOONS, I just want to know. How does it feel to get you're asses kicked? I mean, how does it feel? "My am" asses are feeling pretty good right now. This war was not a referendum on GOONS or our policies. Business will continue as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 You chose your side. You chose allies who wanted to roll another one of your allies. You are not the victim here. DR is not the victim. TIO is not the victim. You chose your side, and your side was the ones who wanted to make the moves to roll us, not the other way around. This seems to be a chicken and egg question. So I will just have to take your admission of contemplating rolling AI as the closest agreement manageable. As an illustration, if you pull a gun on mr and my buddies I'm not going to ask your intentions, I'm not going to check if it's loaded, and I'm probably not going to politely ask you to put it away. My only response will be to attempt to break your arm. If you somehow view that as excessively aggressive and claim you never had intentions of shooting me then that's too bad. Overall what is done is done. It is finished. I await our fracture and destruction or round two. Whatever happens admin willing I'll still be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I like this plan. old plan but still delivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusitan Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm happy I had my modest role in all this circus. Good job everyone :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well that was fun eh? Time to rebuild and target those whom we now have brand spanking new grudges against. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yevgeni Luchenkov Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Umbrella and Argent just drifted apart, I for one (having been in Argent for a considerable length of time) have no ill will towards Umbrella whatsoever. TOP? TOP can go frak themselves for all I care. We were close allies for a long time, yes. But for TOP members who certainly should know better to walk around here acting like we suddenly just left you in the dust through no fault of your own is disingenuous even by the incredibly loose standards of the OWF. Feeling like a victim much? I know most people have a difficulty admitting they have chosen a path without first blaming others but you did choose a path. We simply pointed out to your other most gracious friend Omniscient that it was rather disingenuous, as you say, to claim he chose his "longest allies" when he ditched both Umbrella and TOP to favor IRON and AI. We didn't complain about it but some of you in Argent seem to have this conception that we were monsters to you and you were "forced away from us". We're not the ones who drastically decided to change their government line-up and outlook on politics by doing a 180 and lining with the moralists. You did. Now, I don't expect much from you in specific, Trimm. Your hatred of Paradoxia has been pretty steady for the past few years. Edited March 28, 2013 by Yevgeni Luchenkov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 For all of the talk of working diplomacy and the interesting FA after the war, you'd think that people wouldn't be so fast to come in here and act like a bunch of condescending jerks so soon. You're making it tough to be a nonpartisan fence-sitter. Agreed. In this post, I'm agreeing with my alliance-mate. Conventional wisdom tells us that the original aggressor aggresses due to confidence in their ultimate victory. In the OP, though, we see Umbrella, the original aggressor, surrendering. In subsequent posts, however, we see attempts by the surrendering party to negate said surrender and thereby restore the established tradition of aggressors winning the day. We also see in various posts, people claiming strategic victory in part due to the absence of reparations. On the other hand, a concurrent discussion attempts to show the leniency of the hegemony that was (or some will say is) Doom House. In that discussion, some extol the virtues of said hegemony in their taking of little-to-no reps when victorious. It leaves one wondering why DH is lenient and virtuous when requiring little-to-no reps and yet others face a different standard. Whomever first said it was absolutely correct: CN: A Double Standards Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander thrawn Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I am leaving, but when I come back the Goon Order of Candy Asses is history. I'll make sure of that. Stronger men than you have made such claims, for the past 6 years, and look GOONs remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Stronger men than you have made such claims, for the past 6 years, and look GOONs remains. Well, v2 does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Malone Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Actually it will be the lame attempts by MK to claim victory after admitting defeat in writing. I've come to expect no less however from people who have trouble separating reality and fantasy. To your point, indeed there should be some very intriguing FA moves. I might even have to start being nice to people I've never been particularly nice to in the past. I've done it before, but it just seems unnatural at first. I've only made it to page 19 so far, but in all fairness. I've read responses from BOTH sides spitting on the peace, including from your own alliance. It must be nice to read the OWF if you close your eyes and skip posts you don't want to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusitan Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Agreed. In this post, I'm agreeing with my alliance-mate. Conventional wisdom tells us that the original aggressor aggresses due to confidence in their ultimate victory. In the OP, though, we see Umbrella, the original aggressor, surrendering. In subsequent posts, however, we see attempts by the surrendering party to negate said surrender and thereby restore the established tradition of aggressors winning the day. We also see in various posts, people claiming strategic victory in part due to the absence of reparations. On the other hand, a concurrent discussion attempts to show the leniency of the hegemony that was (or some will say is) Doom House. In that discussion, some extol the virtues of said hegemony in their taking of little-to-no reps when victorious. It leaves one wondering why DH is lenient and virtuous when requiring little-to-no reps and yet others face a different standard. Whomever first said it was absolutely correct: CN: A Double Standards Game It does get annoying when people over-analyze shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) It does get annoying when people over-analyze shit. Aka most posts of every thread Edited March 28, 2013 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhalen Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Whomever first said it was absolutely correct: CN: A Double Standards Game Unless they said it about me, and then they're wrong. Unless it was me who said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMMELHSQ Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Cheers to our friends for the great performance in this war. o/ And special shoutout to who fought us in DT and Senj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I do not contest that defeat is defeat, but it may be unwise to play the tech card. I haven't run new figures on my other computer yet to check all alliances, but AI alone lost some 450,000 tech in the course of this conflict. I do not believe any other alliance for eQ took quite so much damage, but there was substantial injury across the board. As far as defeats go, this was a pretty bearable one for Competence. No matter the outcome of the war, the spirit of victory thunders in the hearts of Competence--so the roaring shall go on! Its a bearable loss because you guys had to admit a loss and surrender, in no way was it a victory for your side just because the winning side doesn't feel the need to impose reps to further damage the loser afterward. If we consider it correct for alliances to move away from the crippling rep taking mentality, then your opponent not using it on you in no way signifies a victory for the losing side. While you guys might be able to point to some damage stats you guys did to make it feel like a win for you, considering the damage your side took it doesn't put you in a better position. So bringing up damage you guys managed to do while ignoring what you guys took seems pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 This seems to be a chicken and egg question. So I will just have to take your admission of contemplating rolling AI as the closest agreement manageable. As an illustration, if you pull a gun on mr and my buddies I'm not going to ask your intentions, I'm not going to check if it's loaded, and I'm probably not going to politely ask you to put it away. My only response will be to attempt to break your arm. If you somehow view that as excessively aggressive and claim you never had intentions of shooting me then that's too bad. Overall what is done is done. It is finished. I await our fracture and destruction or round two. Whatever happens admin willing I'll still be here. Incorrect analogy. Its like a group of people talking about who to fight next, and then crossing off names to that list. Then someone finds out their name was crossed off the list, gets pissed that they were even on the list, despite being crossed off it as a non target, and then decided to come on us swinging. You decided to help them run on us swinging. I'm ok with that, I'm not ok with you spinning like we started it and needed to be put down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Agreed. In this post, I'm agreeing with my alliance-mate. Conventional wisdom tells us that the original aggressor aggresses due to confidence in their ultimate victory. In the OP, though, we see Umbrella, the original aggressor, surrendering. In subsequent posts, however, we see attempts by the surrendering party to negate said surrender and thereby restore the established tradition of aggressors winning the day. We also see in various posts, people claiming strategic victory in part due to the absence of reparations. On the other hand, a concurrent discussion attempts to show the leniency of the hegemony that was (or some will say is) Doom House. In that discussion, some extol the virtues of said hegemony in their taking of little-to-no reps when victorious. It leaves one wondering why DH is lenient and virtuous when requiring little-to-no reps and yet others face a different standard. Whomever first said it was absolutely correct: CN: A Double Standards Game Except DH wasn't the original agressors here mate, DR and NPO (and whoever else was on that original DOW on Umbrella) were. Not saying Umbrella didn't "deserve" to get hit, but be honest about who the agressors really are. The OP states that the agressors in this conflict won. Its ok to be the agressor, just stop, for the love of Admin, stop playing the victim card. It just doesn't fit what you lot did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Except DH wasn't the original agressors here mate, DR and NPO (and whoever else was on that original DOW on Umbrella) were. Not saying Umbrella didn't "deserve" to get hit, but be honest about who the agressors really are. The OP states that the agressors in this conflict won. Its ok to be the agressor, just stop, for the love of Admin, stop playing the victim card. It just doesn't fit what you lot did. Why are you so keen on explaining the dirty deeds to these people, they be tripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 should've demanded alliance name changes like Ubuntu the great suggested :lol1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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