Crownguard Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hey Rush, remember the past two wars when you were calling out XX/SF to come out of peace mode? now you're on the losing side and get to experience the same thing, if it was ok for you to do it then, it is entirely ok for us to do it now. I suppose it's ok for you to do it, but I think the OP is saying that you are woefully inefficient even if we had done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Thank you. And that is why EQ stays in PM. aye, and that is also why C&G stays in PM :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Is GATO coming out? Not really, 90 of those 153 Potential Defensive Slots are Nations that no one cares too much to complain about under 5k NS. ODN is much the same, ~210 of their defensive war slots are 10k NS and under. Much the same for the rest of CnG. Most of the relevant parts of the alliances are in peace mode, just under half of ODN is in peace mode and most of GATO is in peace mode. Now I know why it is Derp Rush The Derp Rush is failing to engage effectively the many C&G targets available. It is an inefficient swarm. That is why it is the Derp Rush. But what bothers me most about this is your dismissal of the 10k and under as irrelevant. Those members - newer recruits or vets beaten down by the CRAPpile in Dave - are very valuable. Anyone who has been in a mass recruiting alliance knows how much the lower tiers matter. So we in no way consider this level irrelevant - we are proud of the work our fighters are doing down there. And anyone who cares about the health of the game should also step back from dismissing that level also. The quality of the fight down there is an indicator of the future, because those players are the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Is GATO coming out? Not really, 90 of those 153 Potential Defensive Slots are Nations that no one cares too much to complain about under 5k NS. ODN is much the same, ~210 of their defensive war slots are 10k NS and under. Much the same for the rest of CnG. Most of the relevant parts of the alliances are in peace mode, just under half of ODN is in peace mode and most of GATO is in peace mode. Now I know why it is Derp Rush and point made! OP, the point was you called out people in past 2-3 years cowards for being in peace mode, they too were outnumbered etc etc, now you're being held to your standards. but GATO will come out in 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Craig Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Marry me, Rush! I will bear you many strong sons. -Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) You'll have to pardon us, we don't need to fill every slot on every nation to have halved TLR and Int's strength, cut ODN's by 1/3, and, yes GATO is 73% peacemode, its nations are refusing to leave when ordered, its upper tier is not priority to Doom House, and it has declared war on alliances it literally cannot attack. Edited February 23, 2013 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arciel Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 You'll have to pardon us, we don't need to fill every slot on every nation to have halved TLR and Int's strength, cut ODN's by 1/3, and, yes GATO is 73% peacemode, its nations are refusing to leave when ordered, its upper tier is not priority to Doom House, and it has declared war on alliances it literally cannot attack. What are you talking about? We (the lower NS nations) haven't been ordered out of peace mode because our big guys are still kicking the crap out of the upper tier of whoever we hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hey Rush, remember the past two wars when you were calling out XX/SF to come out of peace mode? now you're on the losing side and get to experience the same thing, if it was ok for you to do it then, it is entirely ok for us to do it now. The difference is our side actually tends to rotate them and come out, you were happy to just keep them in forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I got some advice Rush, calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) The Derp Rush is failing to engage effectively the many C&G targets available. It is an inefficient swarm. That is why it is the Derp Rush. But what bothers me most about this is your dismissal of the 10k and under as irrelevant. Those members - newer recruits or vets beaten down by the CRAPpile in Dave - are very valuable. Anyone who has been in a mass recruiting alliance knows how much the lower tiers matter. So we in no way consider this level irrelevant - we are proud of the work our fighters are doing down there. And anyone who cares about the health of the game should also step back from dismissing that level also. The quality of the fight down there is an indicator of the future, because those players are the future. I didn't mean 10k NS is irrelevant for everything,but you're not going to hear people complaining about how an alliance is hiding in peace mode when everything under 10k NS is in PM and demand that they come out and fight for 2 rounds at the end of the war. You're part of an alliance and a bloc that has large numbers in peace mode, it's been a while and I hope you don't plan to stay there the entire war. Edited February 23, 2013 by Commander shepard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I didn't mean 10k NS is irrelevant for everything,but you're not going to hear people complaining about how an alliance is hiding in peace mode when everything under 10k NS is in PM and demand that they come out and fight for 2 rounds at the end of the war. You're part of an alliance and a bloc that has large numbers in peace mode, it's been a while and I hope you don't plan to stay there the entire war. Even if I were privy to our coalition's strategic planning, I would not be discussing it here. But I see no reason to expect that we won't be coming out. Unless the other side are planning to quit today, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Regarding the point of your post - you're wrong. Not because of your statistics but because I have no interest in them based on what else you've said. On behalf of myself and other women here, your reference to female body parts is too far over the top. If you want to get your point across it would probably be a good idea to avoid certain types of insults. Freedom of speech is one thing, but I highly doubt you'd be using racial slurs to make your point so you might want to give women the same benefit, especially if your reason for posting on the public OWF in the first place is to have anything other than a negative affect. Now if you are actually trying to bait women, or me in particular, into doing something about it - it's an impressive attempt. Edited February 23, 2013 by White Chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itseZe Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 You'll have to pardon us, we don't need to fill every slot on every nation to have halved TLR and Int's strength, cut ODN's by 1/3, and, yes GATO is 73% peacemode, its nations are refusing to leave when ordered, its upper tier is not priority to Doom House, and it has declared war on alliances it literally cannot attack. Apart from your post being factually incorrect, you are missing the main points. SF/XX/Aft/etc declared on us with vastly superior numbers. We are doing more damage to SF/XX/Aft/etc than they are doing to us. They are filling less than half of our defensive slots. Fact is that they have nothing to brag about and are riding this war in piggyback-mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthkill Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 The reality is, you are relying DR and the rest of EQ to elevate your sad little alliances to a seat at the big kids table ITT, Rush tries to veil his seething jealousy over the fact that our overlords let us sit at the big kids table while his don't. :P But yeah, let's take a better look at those numbers. We'll start with the alliance for which this thread was titled: GATO. GATO-51 nations in war mode out of 192. ~25%. Total available defensive slots: 153 Total taken: 24 Seems abysmal, does it not? Well let's take a look at who exactly are the brave souls in war mode. 100k+ Nations- 5/11, 15 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 80k-100k Nations- 3/13, 9 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 60k-80k Nations- 2/27, 6 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 40k-60k Nations- 5/24, 15 slots, 11 defensive slots filled. 20k-40k Nations- 2/25, 6 slots, 6 defensive slots filled. 20k-10k Nations- 1/16, 3 slots, 2 defensive slots filled. 10k-5k Nations- 1/12, 3 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 5k-1k Nations- 7/27, 21 slots, 3 defensive slots filled. 1k-0k Nations- 25/33, 75 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. Now, as you can see, HALF of the slots are nations that are under 1k NS. Essentially, nations that are out of range of any nation that's received tech deal money. I'm gonna wager that they're not in range of anybody complaining, so it's only fair that we take them out of the running. GATO- 26/159 Nations in War Mode, ~16% Total Available Defensive Slots- 78 Slots Taken- 24 Now, we also have to take into account that yes, we do not have an upper tier advantage. Especially since GATO in particular showed up when we were mostly deployed onto ODN and INT already, so obviously there wasn't much to do against this upper tier. Really, you can't call us inefficient and incompetent because our upper tiers are already occupied. So the 100k+ nations (of which GATO still has half of in PM), we can take out of consideration. GATO- 21/148 Nations in War Mode, ~14% Total Available Defensive Slots- 63 Slots Taken- 24 Although, frankly, a third of that is nations under 5k. Honestly, they fall under the same rule as the <1k nations. Really not even an effective need to worry. GATO- 14/121 Nations in War Mode, ~11% Total Available Defensive Slots- 42 Slots taken- 23 Next, we'll look at ODN. These guys have much less in peace mode, but then again, when they declared they were expecting merely NATO plus a counter, not a dozen alliances, so they obviously didn't throw as much in. ODN-120/221 Nations in War Mode, ~54% Total Available Defensive Slots- 360 Slots Taken- 178 And we break it down in terms of NS: 150k+ 1/1 nations, 3 slots, 0 taken 100k-150k, 2/7 nations, 6 slots, 0 taken 80k-100k, 4/12 nations, 12 slots, 2 taken 60k-100k, 4/11 nations, 12 slots, 8 taken (one just expired) 40k-80k, 10/23 nations, 30 slots, 29 taken (one just expired) 20k-40k, 13/36 nations, 39 slots, 36 taken (three just expired) 10k-20k- 11/34 nations, 33 slots, 27 taken (six just expired) 5k-10k- 10/22 nations, 30 slots, 23 taken (one just expired) 1k-5k- 23/30 nations, 69 slots, 37 taken (six just expired) 1k-0k- 41/45 nations, 123 slots, 16 taken And of course, we subtract the appropriate NS ranges, and as for the slots that just expired today, rather than award them to either side under the assumption that they will or will not be filled, it's more prudent to ignore them. ODN-53/138 Nations in War Mode, ~38% Total Available Defensive Slots- 141 Slots Taken- 124 Rush, since this is your thread, we may as well take a look at your alliance next. (I'm ignoring the AA hopping nations) TLR-49/109 Nations in War Mode, 45% Total Available Defensive Slots- 147 Slots Taken-112 All in all we're actually doing a good job here, but for the sake of consistency, we'll just take a look at those applicable ranges: 80k-100k- 0/4 Nations, 0 slots, 0 filled 60k-80k- 2/8 Nations, 6 slots, 5 filled 40k-60k- 4/12 Nations, 12 slots, 12 filled 20k-40k- 17/39 Nations, 51 slots, 43 filled 10k-20k- 6/17 Nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 5k-10k- 7/10 Nations, 21 slots, 18 filled (one just expired) Thus giving a grand total of: TLR- 36/90 Nations in War Mode, 40% Total Defensive Slots- 107 Slots Filled- 94 And finally, we have INT. INT- 37/93 Nations in War Mode, ~40% Total Defensive Slots- 111 Slots Filled- 55 Every nation above 50k is in peace mode, so we'll just stick to the nations between 50 and 5k as per usual. 40k-50k- 2/4 Nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 20-40k- 6/16 nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 10k-20k- 2/8 nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 5k-10k- 2/12 nations, 6 slots, 3 filled And INT's final totals for the ranges of relevance: INT- 12/40 Nations in War Mode, 30% Total Defensive Slots- 36 Slots Filled- 31 Now, let's just put these things together now, shall we? C&G, despite the fact that we all know GATO ain't DH fans and that you yourself Rush have stated on the OWF that you weren't thrilled with defending Umb over this, likes to stick together. So let's toss together your stats. C&G- 115/389 Nations in War Mode, ~30% Total Defensive Slots- 326 Slots Filled- 272 This gives us a grand total of 84% of C&G slots filled. Funny how poorly you hold up when you take an actual look at the numbers of your alliances. But please, continue to call us inactive and incompetent. You're the guy who failed to get almost half his alliance into PM when he wanted them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 ITT, Rush tries to veil his seething jealousy over the fact that our overlords let us sit at the big kids table while his don't. :P But yeah, let's take a better look at those numbers. We'll start with the alliance for which this thread was titled: GATO. GATO-51 nations in war mode out of 192. ~25%. Total available defensive slots: 153 Total taken: 24 Seems abysmal, does it not? Well let's take a look at who exactly are the brave souls in war mode. 100k+ Nations- 5/11, 15 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 80k-100k Nations- 3/13, 9 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 60k-80k Nations- 2/27, 6 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 40k-60k Nations- 5/24, 15 slots, 11 defensive slots filled. 20k-40k Nations- 2/25, 6 slots, 6 defensive slots filled. 20k-10k Nations- 1/16, 3 slots, 2 defensive slots filled. 10k-5k Nations- 1/12, 3 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 5k-1k Nations- 7/27, 21 slots, 3 defensive slots filled. 1k-0k Nations- 25/33, 75 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. Now, as you can see, HALF of the slots are nations that are under 1k NS. Essentially, nations that are out of range of any nation that's received tech deal money. I'm gonna wager that they're not in range of anybody complaining, so it's only fair that we take them out of the running. GATO- 26/159 Nations in War Mode, ~16% Total Available Defensive Slots- 78 Slots Taken- 24 Now, we also have to take into account that yes, we do not have an upper tier advantage. Especially since GATO in particular showed up when we were mostly deployed onto ODN and INT already, so obviously there wasn't much to do against this upper tier. Really, you can't call us inefficient and incompetent because our upper tiers are already occupied. So the 100k+ nations (of which GATO still has half of in PM), we can take out of consideration. GATO- 21/148 Nations in War Mode, ~14% Total Available Defensive Slots- 63 Slots Taken- 24 Although, frankly, a third of that is nations under 5k. Honestly, they fall under the same rule as the <1k nations. Really not even an effective need to worry. GATO- 14/121 Nations in War Mode, ~11% Total Available Defensive Slots- 42 Slots taken- 23 Next, we'll look at ODN. These guys have much less in peace mode, but then again, when they declared they were expecting merely NATO plus a counter, not a dozen alliances, so they obviously didn't throw as much in. ODN-120/221 Nations in War Mode, ~54% Total Available Defensive Slots- 360 Slots Taken- 178 And we break it down in terms of NS: 150k+ 1/1 nations, 3 slots, 0 taken 100k-150k, 2/7 nations, 6 slots, 0 taken 80k-100k, 4/12 nations, 12 slots, 2 taken 60k-100k, 4/11 nations, 12 slots, 8 taken (one just expired) 40k-80k, 10/23 nations, 30 slots, 29 taken (one just expired) 20k-40k, 13/36 nations, 39 slots, 36 taken (three just expired) 10k-20k- 11/34 nations, 33 slots, 27 taken (six just expired) 5k-10k- 10/22 nations, 30 slots, 23 taken (one just expired) 1k-5k- 23/30 nations, 69 slots, 37 taken (six just expired) 1k-0k- 41/45 nations, 123 slots, 16 taken And of course, we subtract the appropriate NS ranges, and as for the slots that just expired today, rather than award them to either side under the assumption that they will or will not be filled, it's more prudent to ignore them. ODN-53/138 Nations in War Mode, ~38% Total Available Defensive Slots- 141 Slots Taken- 124 Rush, since this is your thread, we may as well take a look at your alliance next. (I'm ignoring the AA hopping nations) TLR-49/109 Nations in War Mode, 45% Total Available Defensive Slots- 147 Slots Taken-112 All in all we're actually doing a good job here, but for the sake of consistency, we'll just take a look at those applicable ranges: 80k-100k- 0/4 Nations, 0 slots, 0 filled 60k-80k- 2/8 Nations, 6 slots, 5 filled 40k-60k- 4/12 Nations, 12 slots, 12 filled 20k-40k- 17/39 Nations, 51 slots, 43 filled 10k-20k- 6/17 Nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 5k-10k- 7/10 Nations, 21 slots, 18 filled (one just expired) Thus giving a grand total of: TLR- 36/90 Nations in War Mode, 40% Total Defensive Slots- 107 Slots Filled- 94 And finally, we have INT. INT- 37/93 Nations in War Mode, ~40% Total Defensive Slots- 111 Slots Filled- 55 Every nation above 50k is in peace mode, so we'll just stick to the nations between 50 and 5k as per usual. 40k-50k- 2/4 Nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 20-40k- 6/16 nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 10k-20k- 2/8 nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 5k-10k- 2/12 nations, 6 slots, 3 filled And INT's final totals for the ranges of relevance: INT- 12/40 Nations in War Mode, 30% Total Defensive Slots- 36 Slots Filled- 31 Now, let's just put these things together now, shall we? C&G, despite the fact that we all know GATO ain't DH fans and that you yourself Rush have stated on the OWF that you weren't thrilled with defending Umb over this, likes to stick together. So let's toss together your stats. C&G- 115/389 Nations in War Mode, ~30% Total Defensive Slots- 326 Slots Filled- 272 This gives us a grand total of 84% of C&G slots filled. Funny how poorly you hold up when you take an actual look at the numbers of your alliances. But please, continue to call us inactive and incompetent. You're the guy who failed to get almost half his alliance into PM when he wanted them to. From time to time someone posts a reply that deserves a round of applause because it should put an end to a false assertion and allow everyone to move on. Stealthkill, this is just such a post. Well done. It is unlikely your opponents will give credit were credit is due (for obvious reasons), but someone should say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (Since this isn't an IC forum, I'll refrain from pointing out how hilarious it is that ~your side~ has become the champion of peace mode considering the past 3 wars. ) Cool stats bro. I agree peace mode talk is dumb. The rest of the community should be ashamed of themselves that Omni was the 1st one to figure out the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itseZe Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Although, frankly, a third of that is nations under 5k. Honestly, they fall under the same rule as the <1k nations. Really not even an effective need to worry. RnR has 50 nations in range of 5k. If you say that over a quarter of your alliance is nothing to worry about, it would certainly explain your performance so far. Your excuses are also quite entertaining, even more so because they are literally the same thing you are accusing us of. First off, you do have an upper tier left, you are simply keeping it in PM. So the empty slots in that range are your fault, not ours. Then you claim that you don't need to count the lower tier, because 50 of your nations are only able to declare 3 wars on GATO in that range. That is not a reason to not count the slots, it is merely an admission that your lower tier is not performing. But go ahead, simply ignore all areas where you are not doing well. I'm sure nothing bad will come of it, like say, you having higher losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 and point made! OP, the point was you called out people in past 2-3 years cowards for being in peace mode, they too were outnumbered etc etc, now you're being held to your standards. but GATO will come out in 3 days. For you to sit there and tell us that we are being held to our standards is a reach at best. You see.. there are a multitude of alliances in this 24 alliance shitpile that essentially sat entire wars, multiple times, in PM. If you want to judge us by our own standards, you cannot do so till the end of the war, then at that time... if if our bulk is still in PM, then you can get back to me and make your point. Anyone who pays even a modicum of attention should be able to see we are exiting PM at progressively lower ceilings. For you to sit there and ignore that, and spew drivel like this shows two things. 1) You are not too bright (no shock, even your own sphere already knew this about you). 2) You pay little attention (again not much of a shock.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 RnR has 50 nations in range of 5k. If you say that over a quarter of your alliance is nothing to worry about, it would certainly explain your performance so far. Your excuses are also quite entertaining, even more so because they are literally the same thing you are accusing us of. First off, you do have an upper tier left, you are simply keeping it in PM. So the empty slots in that range are your fault, not ours. Then you claim that you don't need to count the lower tier, because 50 of your nations are only able to declare 3 wars on GATO in that range. That is not a reason to not count the slots, it is merely an admission that your lower tier is not performing. But go ahead, simply ignore all areas where you are not doing well. I'm sure nothing bad will come of it, like say, you having higher losses. This is an amazing point about "useless bloat"... it is what some alliances aspire to. Congratulations, Achievement Unlocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 For you to sit there and tell us that we are being held to our standards is a reach at best. You see.. there are a multitude of alliances in this 24 alliance shitpile that essentially sat entire wars, multiple times, in PM. If you want to judge us by our own standards, you cannot do so till the end of the war, then at that time... if if our bulk is still in PM, then you can get back to me and make your point. Anyone who pays even a modicum of attention should be able to see we are exiting PM at progressively lower ceilings. For you to sit there and ignore that, and spew drivel like this shows two things. 1) You are not too bright (no shock, even your own sphere already knew this about you). 2) You pay little attention (again not much of a shock.) I have long said that this is a war of attrition and fancy "maneuvering" will not win it for the EQ side. Brute force where the numbers permit it will, so long as people aren't taking damage for no good reason. So long as SF/XX/etc. can show that they are doing that, then I'm comfortable with their performance. If you can honestly say GATO is overwhelmed and seeking to avoid needless damage, then what they are doing is a fair tactic. If you can show me where they have taken a serious pounding and need to go to the "rear" and regroup, then similarly PM is a fair tactic. Strategic reserve? That's a stretch, but I'll buy it. Only GATO knows what GATO is really up to at this stage and if they want to stay in PM, I say...let them enjoy the comforts of PM. That's a bit less firepower coming down range at my friends, and I'm not convinced that GATO is as dedicated to your cause as you would like. Several alliances aren't just based on their performance alone. They should be white peaced out and get on with their day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I don't know about y'all, but I'm thoroughly enjoying fighting wrecking Legion bottom tier nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enamel32 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Ahahaha, did someone really just post stats showing damage done between coalitions. The coalition with less nations always does more damage than The coalition with more nations, simply because the team with lesser nations has more opportunity to do damage. This can be simulated in a team deathmatch with players of equal skill. 1 guy vs 5, the one man team is always going to get the most kills on a player to player basis, but that doesn't mean he wins. This thread is drivel. I should have expected as much given the OP. Edited February 23, 2013 by Enamel32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 ITT, Rush tries to veil his seething jealousy over the fact that our overlords let us sit at the big kids table while his don't. :P But yeah, let's take a better look at those numbers. We'll start with the alliance for which this thread was titled: GATO. GATO-51 nations in war mode out of 192. ~25%. Total available defensive slots: 153 Total taken: 24 Seems abysmal, does it not? Well let's take a look at who exactly are the brave souls in war mode. 100k+ Nations- 5/11, 15 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 80k-100k Nations- 3/13, 9 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. 60k-80k Nations- 2/27, 6 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 40k-60k Nations- 5/24, 15 slots, 11 defensive slots filled. 20k-40k Nations- 2/25, 6 slots, 6 defensive slots filled. 20k-10k Nations- 1/16, 3 slots, 2 defensive slots filled. 10k-5k Nations- 1/12, 3 slots, 1 defensive slot filled. 5k-1k Nations- 7/27, 21 slots, 3 defensive slots filled. 1k-0k Nations- 25/33, 75 slots, 0 defensive slots filled. Now, as you can see, HALF of the slots are nations that are under 1k NS. Essentially, nations that are out of range of any nation that's received tech deal money. I'm gonna wager that they're not in range of anybody complaining, so it's only fair that we take them out of the running. GATO- 26/159 Nations in War Mode, ~16% Total Available Defensive Slots- 78 Slots Taken- 24 Now, we also have to take into account that yes, we do not have an upper tier advantage. Especially since GATO in particular showed up when we were mostly deployed onto ODN and INT already, so obviously there wasn't much to do against this upper tier. Really, you can't call us inefficient and incompetent because our upper tiers are already occupied. So the 100k+ nations (of which GATO still has half of in PM), we can take out of consideration. GATO- 21/148 Nations in War Mode, ~14% Total Available Defensive Slots- 63 Slots Taken- 24 Although, frankly, a third of that is nations under 5k. Honestly, they fall under the same rule as the <1k nations. Really not even an effective need to worry. GATO- 14/121 Nations in War Mode, ~11% Total Available Defensive Slots- 42 Slots taken- 23 Next, we'll look at ODN. These guys have much less in peace mode, but then again, when they declared they were expecting merely NATO plus a counter, not a dozen alliances, so they obviously didn't throw as much in. ODN-120/221 Nations in War Mode, ~54% Total Available Defensive Slots- 360 Slots Taken- 178 And we break it down in terms of NS: 150k+ 1/1 nations, 3 slots, 0 taken 100k-150k, 2/7 nations, 6 slots, 0 taken 80k-100k, 4/12 nations, 12 slots, 2 taken 60k-100k, 4/11 nations, 12 slots, 8 taken (one just expired) 40k-80k, 10/23 nations, 30 slots, 29 taken (one just expired) 20k-40k, 13/36 nations, 39 slots, 36 taken (three just expired) 10k-20k- 11/34 nations, 33 slots, 27 taken (six just expired) 5k-10k- 10/22 nations, 30 slots, 23 taken (one just expired) 1k-5k- 23/30 nations, 69 slots, 37 taken (six just expired) 1k-0k- 41/45 nations, 123 slots, 16 taken And of course, we subtract the appropriate NS ranges, and as for the slots that just expired today, rather than award them to either side under the assumption that they will or will not be filled, it's more prudent to ignore them. ODN-53/138 Nations in War Mode, ~38% Total Available Defensive Slots- 141 Slots Taken- 124 Rush, since this is your thread, we may as well take a look at your alliance next. (I'm ignoring the AA hopping nations) TLR-49/109 Nations in War Mode, 45% Total Available Defensive Slots- 147 Slots Taken-112 All in all we're actually doing a good job here, but for the sake of consistency, we'll just take a look at those applicable ranges: 80k-100k- 0/4 Nations, 0 slots, 0 filled 60k-80k- 2/8 Nations, 6 slots, 5 filled 40k-60k- 4/12 Nations, 12 slots, 12 filled 20k-40k- 17/39 Nations, 51 slots, 43 filled 10k-20k- 6/17 Nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 5k-10k- 7/10 Nations, 21 slots, 18 filled (one just expired) Thus giving a grand total of: TLR- 36/90 Nations in War Mode, 40% Total Defensive Slots- 107 Slots Filled- 94 And finally, we have INT. INT- 37/93 Nations in War Mode, ~40% Total Defensive Slots- 111 Slots Filled- 55 Every nation above 50k is in peace mode, so we'll just stick to the nations between 50 and 5k as per usual. 40k-50k- 2/4 Nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 20-40k- 6/16 nations, 18 slots, 16 filled 10k-20k- 2/8 nations, 6 slots, 6 filled 5k-10k- 2/12 nations, 6 slots, 3 filled And INT's final totals for the ranges of relevance: INT- 12/40 Nations in War Mode, 30% Total Defensive Slots- 36 Slots Filled- 31 Now, let's just put these things together now, shall we? C&G, despite the fact that we all know GATO ain't DH fans and that you yourself Rush have stated on the OWF that you weren't thrilled with defending Umb over this, likes to stick together. So let's toss together your stats. C&G- 115/389 Nations in War Mode, ~30% Total Defensive Slots- 326 Slots Filled- 272 This gives us a grand total of 84% of C&G slots filled. Funny how poorly you hold up when you take an actual look at the numbers of your alliances. But please, continue to call us inactive and incompetent. You're the guy who failed to get almost half his alliance into PM when he wanted them to. And that's the thread, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Ahahaha, did someone really just post stats showing damage done between coalitions. The coalition with less nations always does more damage than The coalition with more nations, simply because the team with lesser nations has more opportunity to do damage. This can be simulated in a team deathmatch with players of equal skill. 1 guy vs 5, the one man team is always going to get the most kills on a player to player basis, but that doesn't mean he wins. This thread is drivel. I should have expected as much given the OP. So in a 5v1 match, the 5 wont effectively cripple the 1 if they play efficiently? You obviously don't have any good friends.And that's the thread, folks. So you plan on ignoring tiers you can't/won't win? That's the official strategy? Because that's all that post insinuates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Oh wow, a thread with an all-caps title going badly. I am shocked. Edited February 23, 2013 by Hereno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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