Schattenmann Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) Oh neat a Shatt sig. I'm honored but you forgot to include my last message...any reason why? Also yeah these stats are a bit skewed...interesting still I guess. I could only fit but so much of your idiocy into one sig. You should write a blog about admin deleting wars on behalf of Anarchy Inc., it would be an instant classic. Edited March 5, 2013 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladngogo Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 The purpose of statistics is to paint an accurate picture of real-world trends and events, if they fail to do that (as these numbers do) they are pointless and irrelevant. Regardless of why AA-hopping is occurring (screwing up targeting, b/c it's goofy and fun, etc.) it has to be accounted for in the statistics. Otherwise you end up with a skewed picture of what actually is occurring and your numbers fail the most basic test of useful statistics. To argue that "well, the numbers are off but if you didn't want them to be off you should all just stay on the same AA" is worse than useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I could only fit but so much of your idiocy into one sig. You should write a blog about admin deleting wars on behalf of Anarchy Inc., it would be an instant classic. You should write a moral tirade about how Anarchy Inc. declares wars over moderation issues......of course if you still stand by your assertions then you should....unless you agree with that kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 The purpose of statistics is to paint an accurate picture of real-world trends and events, if they fail to do that (as these numbers do) they are pointless and irrelevant. Regardless of why AA-hopping is occurring (screwing up targeting, b/c it's goofy and fun, etc.) it has to be accounted for in the statistics. Otherwise you end up with a skewed picture of what actually is occurring and your numbers fail the most basic test of useful statistics. To argue that "well, the numbers are off but if you didn't want them to be off you should all just stay on the same AA" is worse than useless. It just increases the margin of error. As long as it's not too much, no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntyCrist Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 can we get a chart update or somthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Updated March 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpt68 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Great work and thanks for taking your time into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 These numbers are getting closer and closer together every update, now only 19% stands the difference between losses for each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 These numbers are getting closer and closer together every update, now only 19% stands the difference between losses for each side. No. As bad as this tastes coming out of my mouth, Competence did less damage than EQ at first, however Competence has risen up quite a lot and is now doing a couple million NS more damage towards Equilibrium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Updated for 3/17/13, Bloc Sheet is now up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 No. As bad as this tastes coming out of my mouth, Competence did less damage than EQ at first, however Competence has risen up quite a lot and is now doing a couple million NS more damage towards Equilibrium. Well, this is to be expected, really. Nations fighting EQ more or less are sitting at static levels of infra and often (especially in the really low NS ranges) hitting people much less prepared. For many of them, they are only taking a nuke or so a day of damage - which probably has a net effect of only hurting tech - while their opponents are losing infra as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Well, this is to be expected, really. Nations fighting EQ more or less are sitting at static levels of infra and often (especially in the really low NS ranges) hitting people much less prepared. For many of them, they are only taking a nuke or so a day of damage - which probably has a net effect of only hurting tech - while their opponents are losing infra as well. This is another cursory roundabout way to say "the smaller always does more damage than the larger side." Too bad it is a proven fallacy. This is the only global war it has ever happened in. And it is happening , quite simply, because we are just better and more dedicated to doing our jobs, while about 4 competent alliances on the other side strain their back muscles carrying the useless bloat in their coalition. This is , quite frankly, an undeniable fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Updated for 3/17/13, Bloc Sheet is now up. CSN is not fighting.. did not sign the DoW. For the sake of accuracy of statistics, I suggest removing them from the SF chart so that the % of NS loss is not artificially deflated. Same for Sentinel. Menotah, USN, UPN are not in the war hence for purposes of war statistics and losses, should not be included. Edited March 18, 2013 by Rush Sykes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 CSN is not fighting.. did not sign the DoW. For the sake of accuracy of statistics, I suggest removing them from the SF chart so that the % of NS loss is not artificially deflated. Same for Sentinel. Menotah, USN, UPN are not in the war hence for purposes of war statistics and losses, should not be included. i agree. i'd remove anyone who isnt at war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 CSN is not fighting.. did not sign the DoW. For the sake of accuracy of statistics, I suggest removing them from the SF chart so that the % of NS loss is not artificially deflated. Same for Sentinel. Menotah, USN, UPN are not in the war hence for purposes of war statistics and losses, should not be included. i agree. i'd remove anyone who isnt at war. CSN is not fighting.. did not sign the DoW. For the sake of accuracy of statistics, I suggest removing them from the SF chart so that the % of NS loss is not artificially deflated. Same for Sentinel. Menotah, USN, UPN are not in the war hence for purposes of war statistics and losses, should not be included. It is to calculate the total strength of blocs, and the NS there is the same NS as they are now, not before and afters. The individual sheets are for losses per alliance. This is to calculate the total strength of blocs. Basically to see how stong X is over Y. Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hershey Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hell yeah, Alchemy #1 in most losses and still chugging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hell yeah, Alchemy #1 in most losses and still chugging. Well, I guess everyone has different things to be proud of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Future LoSS war plans stolen from DH Send anyone without a big advantage into peace mode Run to other AA's to hide from attacks, confure stats and try and sneak attack Loose most our NS Claim Victory ????? Prosper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Updated for 3/19/13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 It would be nice to see this in terms of Tech, especially after all the pages dedicated to how all NS isn't the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Well, this is to be expected, really. Nations fighting EQ more or less are sitting at static levels of infra and often (especially in the really low NS ranges) hitting people much less prepared. For many of them, they are only taking a nuke or so a day of damage - which probably has a net effect of only hurting tech - while their opponents are losing infra as well. If they are so badly prepared then they should not have declared war on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 If they are so badly prepared then they should not have declared war on us. Most 5k or 30k nations are not - nearly by definition - prepared to easily handle a previously 80k+ nation with nearly full military wonders. Or 5k nations handling which previously were 25k, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Future LoSS war plans stolen from DH Send anyone without a big advantage into peace mode Run to other AA's to hide from attacks, confure stats and try and sneak attack Loose most our NS Claim Victory ????? Prosper LoSS war plans stolen from LoSS: - Send badly coordinated small nations up against enemy for TIO/GATO - Beg TIO/GATO for aid - Repeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Most 5k or 30k nations are not - nearly by definition - prepared to easily handle a previously 80k+ nation with nearly full military wonders. Or 5k nations handling which previously were 25k, etc. And yet they created a situation where they would see full military wondered high tech nations smashing through those "unprepared" nations. If they are whining about being smashed they have only themselves to blame for getting involved against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 And yet they created a situation where they would see full military wondered high tech nations smashing through those "unprepared" nations. If they are whining about being smashed they have only themselves to blame for getting involved against us. And here I thought we were objectively discussing why it is possible for EQ to have more total NS damage than your side of this war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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