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[quote name='Tick1' timestamp='1349926528' post='3039744']
That's very ironic indeed since a majority of the nations have more casualties than me and I'm ranked #974 which is low in general. Which would entail that over half of the nations in these two alliances house a majority of the top 1000 casualties. Building pixels is hard, letting them go is easy.
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Getting a lot of causalities when you managed to avoid wars until be +100k NS with a huge war chest an then fighting curbstomps is easy, nothing to get proud of, and yet you will find guys like this among your ranks: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=74350"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=74350[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=85270"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=85270[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=143690"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=143690[/url] , This guy is the best one: 1k days of seniority and 241,192 of casualities [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=214524"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=214524[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173212"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173212[/url] , but wait, there is more: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=186380"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=186380[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=231986"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=231986[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=118585"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=118585[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92417"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92417[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92591"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92591[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=151268"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=151268[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=107229"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=107229[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=96568"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=96568[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=127226"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=127226[/url]. And I'll stop here, 14 of your top 20 have shameful numbers of causalities for nations with +1800 days, some of then even have more than 2000 days in cyberverse and this show how successful your members are in avoiding wars. Congratulations!

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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1349927217' post='3039749']
Getting a lot of causalities when you managed to avoid wars until be +100k NS with a huge war chest an then fighting curbstomps is easy, nothing to get proud of, and yet you will find guys like this among your ranks: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=74350"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=74350[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=85270"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=85270[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=143690"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=143690[/url] , This guy is the best one: 1k days of seniority and 241,192 of casualities [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=214524"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=214524[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173212"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=173212[/url] , but wait, there is more: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=186380"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=186380[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=231986"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=231986[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=118585"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=118585[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92417"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92417[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92591"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92591[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=151268"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=151268[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=107229"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=107229[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=96568"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=96568[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=127226"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=127226[/url]. And I'll stop here, 14 of your top 20 have shameful numbers of causalities for nations with +1800 days, some of then even have more than 2000 days in cyberverse and this show how successful your members are in avoiding wars. Congratulations!
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You just nailed it...

congrats....


curiously.... a "peace mode warrior" like me ... has 2.5 million casualties... and I never had more than 7,000 infra.....

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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1349927217' post='3039749']
Getting a lot of causalities when you managed to avoid wars until be +100k NS with a huge war chest an then fighting curbstomps is easy, nothing to get proud of, and yet you will find guys like this among your ranks: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=74350"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=74350[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=85270"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=85270[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=143690"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=143690[/url] , This guy is the best one: 1k days of seniority and 241,192 of casualities [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=214524"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=214524[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173212"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=173212[/url] , but wait, there is more: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=186380"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=186380[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=231986"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=231986[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=118585"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=118585[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92417"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92417[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92591"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92591[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=151268"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=151268[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=107229"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=107229[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=96568"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=96568[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=127226"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=127226[/url]. And I'll stop here, 14 of your top 20 have shameful numbers of causalities for nations with +1800 days, some of then even have more than 2000 days in cyberverse and this show how successful your members are in avoiding wars. Congratulations!
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What about their number six dude?

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[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1349927217' post='3039749']
Getting a lot of causalities when you managed to avoid wars until be +100k NS with a huge war chest an then fighting curbstomps is easy, nothing to get proud of, and yet you will find guys like this among your ranks: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=74350"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=74350[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=85270"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=85270[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=143690"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=143690[/url] , This guy is the best one: 1k days of seniority and 241,192 of casualities [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=214524"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=214524[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173212"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=173212[/url] , but wait, there is more: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=186380"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=186380[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=231986"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=231986[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=118585"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=118585[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92417"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92417[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=92591"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=92591[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=151268"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=151268[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=107229"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=107229[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=96568"]http://www.cybernati...Nation_ID=96568[/url] , [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=127226"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=127226[/url]. And I'll stop here, 14 of your top 20 have shameful numbers of causalities for nations with +1800 days, some of then even have more than 2000 days in cyberverse and this show how successful your members are in avoiding wars. Congratulations!
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I've fought in every major war since GWII (with a couple minors sprinkled for flavor) my dear... often times on the losing sides of quite a few of those conflicts and have had the distinctions of being Zi'd twice... The behemoth of a nation that stands now was built with much love, in war, and tech.

Also this notion you put forth of earning massive casualties at larger levels is false. These days it's actually quite a feat to earn more then 200k at upper tiers when the bulk of your opponents in curbstomps these days tend to fight back for about 48 hrs before sizzling out and having 0 nukes left to lob. (Good luck finding more slots after that first target!) But I suppose you've never been able to build a larger nation... which is too bad.

Using myself as an example, I've had over 3 milion casualties for the last 3 years now (3 years ago I was in the 0.32% for most casualties! :v: ) and after being on the victorious side of a number of the recent "curbstomps" I've only seen my casualties increase in a marginal fashion...

In conclusion, you lose.

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[quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1349930882' post='3039767']
I've fought in every major war since GWII (with a couple minors sprinkled for flavor) my dear... often times on the losing sides of quite a few of those conflicts and have had the distinctions of being Zi'd twice... The behemoth of a nation that stands now was built with much love, in war, and tech.

Also this notion you put forth of earning massive casualties at larger levels is false. These days it's actually quite a feat to earn more then 200k at upper tiers when the bulk of your opponents [b]in curbstomps[/b] these days tend to fight back for about 48 hrs before sizzling out and having 0 nukes left to lob. (Good luck finding more slots after that first target!) But I suppose [b]you've never been able to build a larger nation... which is too bad.[/b]

Using myself as an example, I've had over 3 milion casualties for the last 3 years now (3 years ago I was in the 0.32% for most casualties! :v: ) [b]and after being on the victorious side of a number of the recent "curbstomps" I've only seen my casualties increase in a marginal fashion...[/b]

In conclusion, you lose.
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Thanks for proving my pointing. Much love <3

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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931098' post='3039768']
ever think maybe the problem is constantly fighting curbstomps instead of a fair fight?
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I have fought to ZI during Unjust War. I have fought for 3 months straight without hitting peace mode for TOP during the Bipolar war. I have participated in every war in between. Ever think maybe the problem is that you just simply incompetent at nation building?

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[quote name='Zero-One' timestamp='1349931340' post='3039773']
I have fought to ZI during Unjust War. I have fought for 3 months straight without hitting peace mode for TOP during the Bipolar war. I have participated in every war in between. Ever think maybe the problem is that you just simply incompetent at nation building?
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hard to build a nation when you get beat down for literally no reason, not that you'd know since TOP has been domesticated. Oh, and that whole B& thing.

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[quote name='Zero-One' timestamp='1349931340' post='3039773']
I have fought to ZI during Unjust War. I have fought for 3 months straight without hitting peace mode for TOP during the Bipolar war. I have participated in every war in between. Ever think maybe the problem is that you just simply incompetent at nation building?
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Do you ever think that you are a rare exception in your current alliance? And please, I have a better aid slot usage than anyone here, yeah I said anyone, I've been active and doing tech deals since ever, so no, I'm pretty good with nation building.

Edit: I always laugh at people who says "I have a big nation because I'm a genius at nation building" Like it was a hard thing to do, please we are talking about infra jumps, back collect and tech deals, not quantum physics.

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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931601' post='3039778']

hard to build a nation when you get beat down for literally no reason, not that you'd know since TOP has been domesticated. Oh, and that whole B&amp; thing.
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He's been in Umbrella for the last couple of years. If your gonna throw retarded insults out atleast aim them in the proper direction.

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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931098' post='3039768']
ever think maybe the problem is constantly fighting curbstomps instead of a fair fight?
[/quote]If you bring a knife to a gun fight and ask your opponent to instead use a knife in order to make it fair. You're an idiot. And even more so, you're a dead one. It falls onto the alliance at disadvantage to do what is necessary to insure they're not in the predicament in the first place. Sure, I'd love to fight another real war... but I'm not going to do anything to help the other guys into providing one for me.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1349931332' post='3039772']
Thanks for proving my pointing. Much love <3
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You're either incapable of comprehending your own post. Which made the suggestion that larger nations have larger casualty counts due to the easier ability to gain kills at upper tiers. Which I refuted entirely. Or you lack an understanding of the word marginal. I fear your words may have betrayed you sir...

(PS. I don't buy tech anymore because I hope to one day be able to fight for more then one round again.)

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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931098' post='3039768']
ever think maybe the problem is constantly fighting curbstomps instead of a fair fight?
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MK let you guys start playing on easy mode in January 2011.

ever think maybe the problem is constantly whining about curbstomps instead of doing actually trying something new?

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[quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1349932152' post='3039814']
If you bring a knife to a gun fight and ask your opponent to instead use a knife in order to make it fair. You're an idiot. And even more so, you're a dead one. It falls onto the alliance at disadvantage to do what is necessary to insure they're not in the predicament in the first place. Sure, I'd love to fight another real war... but I'm not going to do anything to help the other guys into providing one for me.


You're either incapable of comprehending your own post. Which made the suggestion that larger nations have larger casualty counts due to the easier ability to gain kills at upper tiers. Which I refuted entirely. Or you lack an understanding of the word marginal. I fear your words may have betrayed you sir...

(PS. I don't buy tech anymore because I hope to one day be able to fight for more then one round again.)
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Larger nations have indeed more possibility to have larger casualty counts since they have more soldiers, bigger war chests to keep fighting and due to the easier ability to gain kills at upper tiers, this doesn't happen with your nations because two things:
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[*]Your alliances avoid anything that resemble a fair wars and who gave you the chance to proper fight
[*]Your alliances sign treaties with everyone who has nation in shape to fight a proper war with you (see this very thread)
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I doubt that in a full scale war between TOP and Umbrella you guys couldn't gain A LOT of causalities, now please keep talking but I advise: you can't fool anyone with your non sense.

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[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931098' post='3039768']
ever think maybe the problem is constantly fighting curbstomps instead of a fair fight?
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They are playing the game smart, don't say you wouldn't do the exact same thing they are doing if you were in their shoes.

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