Imran Ehsan Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Congrats to our friends in TORN and NPO. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Expects Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Good to see both our allies putting the past behind them. o/ TORN o/ NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Definitely great to see two of our allies getting together. Congrats and good luck, guys! -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Gotta give you props for getting over that, Pacifica. I don't know if I could've done it. Good luck to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Nevermind Edited August 14, 2012 by Commander shepard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 While I don't pretend to have a clue about TORN or NPO foreign policy, all i'm making is a simple observation. I was a lowly foot soldier during Karma, however even I knew what a bad move it was for TORN to do what they did. I'm not criticizing anyone however, i'm merely stating that the wound has been forgiven. Once again though I wish you both luck and rekindling an old friendship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Curzon Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 [quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1344834777' post='3021520'] Not a fan of this at all. I'm all for forgiving and forgetting, but if I ever went rogue on an alliance it would be TORN. [/quote] Make my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 /me lobs a high five at Dilber /me lobs a nuke at Wickedj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) The insult lobbing at TORN by some in this thread is actually pretty hilarious. Neither party in the debacle that finally sunk relations there were without a degree of fault in it, as there was a lot of communication problems both ways, but really that was just the breaking point. Relations had been slowly starting to shift for many months before Karma. Opinion of NPO within TORN in the 6 months or so before Karma had been diving even up to the Regent level, to where by the time Karma actually rolled around, really only Bigwoody and a couple of others were holding the line on keeping the treaty. A lot of the government and former gov at the time had been calling for blood on it for ages. That said, best of luck to our allies in TORN and their associates in NPO for trying to start anew. Edited August 16, 2012 by Lord Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehon Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 All of you can talk about history. All of you can talk about what you want. But this isn't about you. This isn't about history. TORN and NPO are dealing with the now, together. Like, hate it, you get to live it from the sidelines. o/ Torn o/ Pacifica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1345133462' post='3022442'] The insult lobbing at TORN by some in this thread is actually pretty hilarious. Neither party in the debacle that finally sunk relations there were without a degree of fault in it, as there was a lot of communication problems both ways, but really that was just the breaking point. Relations had been slowly starting to shift for many months before Karma. Opinion of NPO within TORN in the 6 months or so before Karma had been diving even up to the Regent level, to where by the time Karma actually rolled around, really only Bigwoody and a couple of others were holding the line on keeping the treaty. A lot of the government and former gov at the time had been calling for blood on it for ages. That said, best of luck to our allies in TORN and their associates in NPO for trying to start anew. [/quote] !@#$%^&* in regards to the communication problem. The reason that Karma started at the time that it did was because BigWoody convinced Moo that your treaty with MK would keep them out, and that TORN needed a war or it would kill itself. Karma started at that EXACT MOMENT because of TORN. You then got your 30 pieces of silver, and a massive complex about rewriting history over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeros Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Its been years now people. Time to move on. Most of the people in charge of the various alliances here were not involved in the mess from 2009 except for a few crotchety old geriatrics. Of course, I am all for fighting old battles, since I was not even in existence during Karma so any old battles would be new ones for me and thus every argument here about the old ones would be invalid from where I was sitting. Time marches on and a new generation rises. I think this treaty has less to do with the past and more to do with the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1345166181' post='3022611'] Its been years now people. Time to move on. Most of the people in charge of the various alliances here were not involved in the mess from 2009 except for a few crotchety old geriatrics. Of course, I am all for fighting old battles, since I was not even in existence during Karma so any old battles would be new ones for me and thus every argument here about the old ones would be invalid from where I was sitting. Time marches on and a new generation rises. I think this treaty has less to do with the past and more to do with the future. [/quote] I disagree. I quite like hearing about it. It was the last war that wasn't decided before it began. I am old and "geriatic" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike717 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1345164408' post='3022599'] !@#$%^&* in regards to the communication problem. The reason that Karma started at the time that it did was because BigWoody convinced Moo that your treaty with MK would keep them out, and that TORN needed a war or it would kill itself. Karma started at that EXACT MOMENT because of TORN. You then got your 30 pieces of silver, and a massive complex about rewriting history over it. [/quote] and everyone in torn gov at the time with the exception of HRT and SC is either gone or in MK. TORN got played and made some pretty big mistakes during Karma, but if you want to hunt those down who are responsible, you'll need to look somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='TRON IX' timestamp='1344821964' post='3021444'] I'm glad to see both of my allies taking a big step in restoring the trust and friendship they use to share. o/ TORN o/ NPO -Tron(old time rock and roll)ix [/quote] I agree... though I'm not allied to TORN directly anymore... I am very excited to see them back with friends of mine [i]Also, Tron IX, is it true that TORN is really the love child of you and •Keira Knightley (beautiful AND dyslexic )? [/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Those who dwell in the past and seek revenge will find themselves playing a subservient role to someone else's own agenda. o/ TORN o/ NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Call me a traditionalist, but when I retire, I'm going to nuke the Pacifican Emperor, the way Admin intended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1345172737' post='3022643'] I disagree. I quite like hearing about it. It was the last war that wasn't decided before it began. I am old and "geriatic" though. [/quote] there's a solution for that, stop picking the easy route and start something interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='mike717' timestamp='1345196652' post='3022770'] and everyone in torn gov at the time with the exception of HRT and SC is either gone or in MK. TORN got played and made some pretty big mistakes during Karma, but if you want to hunt those down who are responsible, you'll need to look somewhere else. [/quote] we're open to taking the remainder if you need to shed some heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Sir Paul' timestamp='1345231193' post='3022855']Call me a traditionalist, but when I retire, I'm going to nuke the Pacifican Emperor, the way Admin intended![/quote] You are not alone in your conservative ways. Only way to go out is to nuke a Pacifican Emperor,...or if he is out of range Ivan Moldavi. Admin vult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehon Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hell even I plan to do that once I leave the game... and if I am still Emperor at the time, I am going to nuke Baka... just because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 TORN and NPO back togther and The Bad has returned to Planet Bob. The end must be upon us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1345245761' post='3022901'] Hell even I plan to do that once I leave the game... and if I am still Emperor at the time, I am going to nuke Baka... just because [/quote] I'll take you all down on my way out, because i'm a fair friend. NPO need to sign real treaties like NAPs again :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeCoHo Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 [quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1345133462' post='3022442'] The insult lobbing at TORN by some in this thread is actually pretty hilarious. Neither party in the debacle that finally sunk relations there were without a degree of fault in it, as there was a lot of communication problems both ways, but really that was just the breaking point. Relations had been slowly starting to shift for many months before Karma. Opinion of NPO within TORN in the 6 months or so before Karma had been diving even up to the Regent level, to where by the time Karma actually rolled around, really only Bigwoody and a couple of others were holding the line on keeping the treaty. A lot of the government and former gov at the time had been calling for blood on it for ages. That said, best of luck to our allies in TORN and their associates in NPO for trying to start anew. [/quote] I remember certain people threatening to have a coup if they didn't get their way. The same people who left after they did indeed get their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1345241904' post='3022884'] we're open to taking the remainder if you need to shed some heat [/quote] I can't wait until MK loses yet another 50 members as it did in Bye Polar. This will *hopefully* happen sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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