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[quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1339759447' post='2984732']
You didn't answer the question. There have been some pretty intense labels being thrown at NoR as of late. If we are what some say we are, would you not hear some form of outcry from the various races, creeds, religions, etc. within our alliance today? Better yet, why would these people who we allegedly hate be long standing and high ranking members of our alliance?
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A few months ago, an exodus of a dozen or more members said quite nasty things. So, I suspect many dissenters left for alleged misconduct within NoR.

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[quote name='Chaoshawk' timestamp='1339767364' post='2984787']
A few months ago, an exodus of a dozen or more members said quite nasty things. So, I suspect many dissenters left for alleged misconduct within NoR.
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It was 24 members, and they left because they didnt like to be told what to do, when to do it, and various personal disagreements between members. As for their aligations of "Misconduct", whatever falls into that, its no different then when brothers fight, nasty things are said on both sides including made up lies, and sometimes brothers disown each other. Those who left are still considered brothers in arms to many in NoR. They didnt leave because we are some haven for radical ideology, but because they were fed up with ineptness to control personal vendettas within the alliance.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339702186' post='2983829']
*Sips tea*

Shall I polish my jackboots or my katana? Can't pick which.
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you should be digging your grave

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[quote name='Anarquista' timestamp='1339770736' post='2984813']
you should be digging your grave

:P
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Besides the worthless threat, anarchist. My mere presence made one of yours delete his nation to save his boneless spine.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339757180' post='2984721']
A question I've been meaning to ask: Given that Nordreich has non-whites like Chinese, Japanese, Muslim (never got the ethnicity, but it certainly wasn't white), exactly where does all the supposed White Supremacist stuff come from? Just out of thin air?[/quote]

Out of thin air and [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"]confirmation bias. [/url]

Sick minds start with a conclusion and then arrange the facts to match. To a certain type of commie, anything vaguely german or nordic looks 'nazi' or 'fascist' at the very least and that inspires the conclusion, which is impervious to facts from that point forward.

The same reason Hereno was spouting off about my supposed ties to Nordreich in the other thread. He just assumed because I am agreeing with the them on this one issue, that I must be tied to them somehow. Of course when I challenge him to tell me what my supposed ties with Nordreich are.... *crickets chirping*

My 'tie' to Nordreich is being a disgruntled ex-member. I was a gov member, sure, I was an official "traitor" for longer. I have some friends there like with every alliance I used to be in but I havent had any official contact for nearly 2 years. The idea that we have some sort of 'relationship' that biases me is just... uninformed fantasy.

My only 'bias' is experience - having been in Nordreich, having served in government, knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that the inflammatory BS is just BS, and in fact being personally insulted by it as well. The implication that I would have served in an organisation like these idiots fantasize Nordreich to be is about the most insulting and distasteful implication anyone could possibly hit me with. It's the biggest OOC attack in CN, against every member and former member of Nordreich in one go, and I dont see any reason why such conduct should ever be tolerated or why I or anyone else should ever have to be subjected to it in order to play a browser game.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339771813' post='2984826']
Besides the worthless street, anarchist.[/quote]
what?
[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339771813' post='2984826']
My mere presence made one of yours delete his nation to save his boneless spine.
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yes, your, mere, presence made him not want to live in this whirled that supports fascism and oppression
[ooc]congrats[/ooc]

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[quote name='SF Austin' timestamp='1339770348' post='2984808']
It was 24 members, and they left because they didnt like to be told what to do, when to do it, and various personal disagreements between members. As for their aligations of "Misconduct", whatever falls into that, its no different then when brothers fight, nasty things are said on both sides including made up lies, and sometimes brothers disown each other. Those who left are still considered brothers in arms to many in NoR. They didnt leave because we are some haven for radical ideology, but because they were fed up with ineptness to control personal vendettas within the alliance.
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For the most part this is spot on

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[quote name='Anarquista' timestamp='1339779753' post='2984934']
what?[/quote]
Sorry, was writing "threat"

[quote name='Anarquista' timestamp='1339779753' post='2984934']yes, your, mere, presence made him not want to live in this whirled that supports fascism and oppression
[ooc]congrats[/ooc][/quote]
Meh, it's because he represents one aspect of LSF: Spineless backstabber.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1339809598' post='2985391']
Meh, it's because he represents one aspect of LSF: Spineless backstabber.
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There are no backstabbers in LSF, merely unwashed powindah who haven't seen the Elesef's light, yet.

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[quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' timestamp='1339776997' post='2984877'] Sick minds start with a conclusion and then arrange the facts to match. To a certain type of commie, anything vaguely german or nordic looks 'nazi' or 'fascist' at the very least and that inspires the conclusion, which is impervious to facts from that point forward. [/quote]

You are hilarious.
Why would anyone think NoR are Nazis? It's patently ridiculous. They're themed along the lines of Germany circa World War II, and Germany during World War II had nothing to do with Nazis. Their name is NordReich, Nazis have never used [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich#Possible_negative_connotations_in_modern_use"]the word Reich[/url]. They use [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_%28rune%29#Modern_usage"]this symbology[/url], and that definitely has nothing to do with Nazis. IN CHARACTER THEY ARE NAZIS.

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[quote name='Nestor Durruti Magon' timestamp='1339817417' post='2985528']
You are hilarious.
Why would anyone think NoR are Nazis? It's patently ridiculous. They're themed along the lines of Germany circa World War II, and Germany during World War II had nothing to do with Nazis. Their name is NordReich, Nazis have never used [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich#Possible_negative_connotations_in_modern_use"]the word Reich[/url]. They use [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_%28rune%29#Modern_usage"]this symbology[/url], and that definitely has nothing to do with Nazis. IN CHARACTER THEY ARE NAZIS.
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In character we are whatever we claim to be. That's the point of a character, we set the theme and outline. We are a Germanic or even pan-European militaristic alliance. Obviously borrowing some symbolism from that general idea, though certainly not exclusively from world war 2. Any other inference as to our morals or beliefs based on your interpretation is just that, your interpretation. And in this case your (among others') interpretation is misguided and incorrect.

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That this 'argument' about whether or not the Nordreich alliance are or are not National Socialists is still going on after all of these years is rather pathetic and silly. Some people find one thing and hold onto it forever. Learn to give up the ghost folks. Whether or not Nordreich as a whole or in part is any of what people claim from time to time has no bearing on anything, really. This is just a stupid line that people like to toss around repeatedly.

Grow up folks. Play as you want and others will play how they want.

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[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1339651022' post='2982967']
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[center]You've got it all wrong.

[img]http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg552/DrNoxin/nor-lsf-stomp.jpg[/img][/center]

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20:15 KaiserMartens so basically what you're telling me is LSF did the exact same !@#$ it did many years ago already, which was what got them pwned to begin with.
20:15 Kankou not sure what they did in the past
20:15 Kankou but whatever
20:15 KaiserMartens The exact same thing, kankou
20:15 KaiserMartens that's why it's so ridiculous to me


*Facepalms at the insanity of the situation*

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[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1339903460' post='2986208']
Indeed, these are the circumstances that lead up to LSF-NoV. We all know what eventually ended LSF-NoV.

History does and will repeat itself, ladies. I can promise you that.
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So you're going to wait six months for NoR's allies to progressively drop them and then for TPF to attack them to do anything?

I mean, that's how it looks like right now anyway.

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