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I would love to see our allies in CnG choose this path vs yet another steaming pile from MK, but that's just me.

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[quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1339654037' post='2983057']
In the peace terms LSF must drop Libertarian from their name.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

-Craig

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[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1339653642' post='2983052']
I would love to see our allies in CnG choose this path vs yet another steaming pile from MK, but that's just me.
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So you would rather they choose the steaming pile from LSF?

Summary of this thread: Those in the know understand how stupid LSF has been and how they started this. Also understand how clearcut of a reason for countering NoR had. Those not in the know assume MK is evil and NoR is evil by extension, and thus everything they do is wrong.

Edited by Penlugue Solaris

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[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1339654180' post='2983060']
LSF was basically asking for it.
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Well yeah... they wanted it. This is going to be a fun war, and war over a grudge that LSF enjoys. Apparently you guys disagreed and quickly found a war that would be more fun for you guys though.

Edited by supercoolyellow

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The spin that is coming from MK and their surrogate TOP is amazing. Bravo.

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[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1339654355' post='2983063']
So you would rather they choose the steaming pile from LSF?
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I am reasonably sure that's what I just posted. MK's entire war is about them aiding what amounts to be a rogue and to try and force INT and CnG by extension to once again follow them into the breach. For the explicit purpose of hanging INT's ally out to dry.

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[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1339654608' post='2983070']
I am reasonably sure that's what I just posted. MK's entire war is about them aiding what amounts to be a rogue and to try and force INT and CnG by extension to once again follow them into the breach. For the explicit purpose of hanging INT's ally out to dry.
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You do realize C&G has been gunning for SF just as much as MK?

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[quote name='Ridin High' timestamp='1339654526' post='2983068']
The spin that is coming from MK and their surrogate TOP is amazing. Bravo.
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There isn't any spin. LSF went insane. There is no spin required on this one. Absolute no brainer.

Edited by Penlugue Solaris

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339654663' post='2983072']
You do realize C&G has been gunning for SF just as much as MK?
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Indeed. I guess MK should have convinced NoR into other action or at least to wait until CnG was otherwise occupied. Losing CnG to this conflict would certainly hurt but I doubt end what MK will be doing over in their battle.

Edited by magicninja

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339654663' post='2983072']
You do realize C&G has been gunning for SF just as much as MK?
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Its sad when Roq is the voice of reason where C&G is concerned. But he is right. And I feel dirty saying it.

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339654663' post='2983072']
You do realize C&G has been gunning for SF just as much as MK?
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Regardless, I figure INT wouldn't have left LSF out to dry vs their ancient enemy NoR right now for a pre-emptive strike on SF.

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339654663' post='2983072']
You do realize C&G has been gunning for SF just as much as MK?
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And yet nothing Vol Navy said was in any way false.

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[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1339654922' post='2983078']
Regardless, I figure INT wouldn't have left LSF out to dry vs their ancient enemy NoR right now for a pre-emptive strike on SF.
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LSF started this war, not NoR. I think Int can recognize that as well as the fact LSF deliberately is trying to drag them into it.

Edited by Penlugue Solaris

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[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1339654922' post='2983078']
Regardless, I figure INT wouldn't have left LSF out to dry vs their ancient enemy NoR right now for a pre-emptive strike on SF.
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NoR and Int have never fought before.

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[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1339655010' post='2983080']
LSF started this war, not NoR. I think int can recognize that as well as the fact LSF deliberately is trying to drag them into it.
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And MK started their war, it doesn't matter, CnG defends allies that start wars the same as allies who are defending.

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The issue, Vol Navy, is it's not really C&G following MK into the breach, it's them acting in unison. They have been one entity thus far and Int helping LSF would change all of that, but as was made clear by GATO officials to SirHumphrey in the MK DoW, they were very happy for any kind of war on SF.


[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1339655086' post='2983082']
NoR and Int have never fought before.
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Um, ancient enemy for a reason. There's a long history and Int's GenCom has Nordreich delenda est in his sig.

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[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1339655086' post='2983082']
NoR and Int have never fought before.
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Not speaking of direct fighting, but of NoR's history of war/hostlity on socialist alliances which has fueled a cold war for years between the groupings.

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339655200' post='2983084']
The issue, Vol Navy, is it's not really C&G following MK into the breach, it's them acting in unison. They have been one entity thus far and Int helping LSF would change all of that, but as was made clear by GATO officials to SirHumphrey in the MK DoW, they were very happy for any kind of war on SF.

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We'll see, I know how our allies in INT feel about NoR and how they feel about their own allies, thus my hope in my first post in the thread.

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I think this could've been better handled by having a debate-off between LSF-NoR. I could debate with Int as to why Ron Paul wins over communism too. We could be the opening act.

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[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1339655156' post='2983083']
it doesn't matter, CnG defends allies that start wars the same as allies who are defending.
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Not always don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen. You probably have a better shot with INT though.

Edited by Omniscient1

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[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1339654355' post='2983063']
So you would rather they choose the steaming pile from LSF?

Summary of this thread: Those in the know understand how stupid LSF has been and how they started this. Also understand how clearcut of a reason for countering NoR had. Those not in the know assume MK is evil and NoR is evil by extension, and thus everything they do is wrong.
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You dont need any particular inside track on knowledge. Just check the in-game declarations and aid right now before stuff expires. It's not hard to see what happened.

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1339655200' post='2983084']
They have been one entity thus far and Int helping LSF would change all of that, but as was made clear by GATO officials to SirHumphrey in the MK DoW, they were very happy for any kind of war on SF
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No it wouldn't. Just because we wouldn't like defending LSF doesn't mean we wouldn't all stick together on it. If it were one of our allies who did something stupid and we wanted to defend and call in CnG we would expect INT and the rest of the bloc to honor it. I'm sure TLR and ODN feel the same way. It would be patently against everything we believe as a bloc to let INT go it alone if the invoke the bloc but we don't have to like it.

As for SF yeah I wish we could get in on it and maybe we still can but as long as someone hurts them I guess....

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