Ayatollah Bromeini Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1339689564' post='2983481'] whooo this post smells of !@#$. LSF is absolutely getting hit because there in the wrong. NoR has not attempted to at any time too continue the path of old with the left. I had actually thought many had put this behind them. LSF apparently didnt. They went in to the local bar ran their mouths and when that didnt work they picked a fight. While one side was trying to be reasonable LSF went ahead and punched them in the nose now they have the fight they wanted. Considering some of the propoganda in this thread from certain individuals it seems like INT was probably at the table right behind them cheering them on. Dont try and spin LSF as a victim here it is far far from the truth. Time for the left to stop playing the victim card and lay in the bed they have made for themselves.[/quote] My point was that there is no "right" and "wrong". Again, I've not seen you complaining in any of these other threads about alliances doing the "wrong" thing. I'm not defending anyone or claiming anyone is a victim. I'm just sayin', if you're going to be dumb enough to bring something like morality into [OOC] A video game [/OOC], at least be consistent. I guess what I'm trying to say here is, [quote]might makes right really.[/quote] So lets cut the !@#$%^&*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Austin Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1339704322' post='2983872'] So how would TLR not be acting in aggression with MK? Haha okay there buddy. Pretty sure this isn't the war you want and [i]that's[/i] why CSN got hit. [/quote] A) I couldnt careless what TLR does. B) I am not your buddy. C) LSF allies want to active their oA's? Bring it on and come knock me down a few pegs and put me in my place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Monkey Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Exige' timestamp='1339705842' post='2983903'] So you hate the US, UK, France, Russia, Poland, The Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Greece, ... ? Cause 95% of the people in those countries think that way. And at least it isn't as retarded as "all people are equal" and therefore everybody should get the same paycheck [/quote] I would urinate in the mouths of any flag masturbating individual. They are all retarded. And what you said about "socialism" is a silly stereotype. What I said about nationalism is actually what nationalism is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='SF Austin' timestamp='1339706308' post='2983916'] C) LSF allies want to active their oA's? Bring it on and come knock me down a few pegs and put me in my place. [/quote] A few times I've been around that track. So it's not just gonna happen like that. 'Cause I ain't know hollaback girl. Edited June 14, 2012 by Ayatollah Bromeini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1339652418' post='2983028'] Yes, please tell us more about how the longest-lasting leftist alliance in CN needs to change things up after more than 5 years. [/quote] Longest lasting? Of course! Politically relevant during those 5 years? Debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Space Monkey' timestamp='1339706728' post='2983920'] I would urinate in the mouths of any flag masturbating individual. They are all retarded. And what you said about "socialism" is a silly stereotype. What I said about nationalism is actually what nationalism is. [/quote] so which part of my statement is wrong? a) all people are equal b) all people deserve to have the same amount of goods/income/.... and your definition of nationalism is far off and total left wing !@#$%^&*. Any person who wants to have an independent state for his people is a nationalist, regardless of their opinion on people from other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='SF Austin' timestamp='1339706308' post='2983916'] A) I couldnt careless what TLR does. [/quote] How rude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1339706828' post='2983923'] A few times I've been around that track. So it's not just gonna happen like that. 'Cause I ain't know hollaback girl. [/quote] You did not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='SF Austin' timestamp='1339706308' post='2983916'] A) I couldnt careless what TLR does.[/quote] Welp! [quote]B) I am not your buddy. C) LSF allies want to active their oA's? Bring it on and come knock me down a few pegs and put me in my place. [/quote] Haha oh boy this is a fun one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Everything old is new again. Are we at the part where people start espousing their political belief systems when they should be reloading? *looks up the thread* Yes. Yes we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 LSF did NoR's work for them. Why search for a CB when one is served so juicy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1339699231' post='2983779'] ..... [/quote] Do you think its fine to aid rogues intentionally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proest Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1339664666' post='2983184'] I'll just leave this here. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/MonsterReborn/111-1.png[/img] Carry on with what you where doing. [/quote] He's just keeping up his slot usage. Don't hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1339707827' post='2983943'] LSF did NoR's work for them. Why search for a CB when one is served so juicy... [/quote] Didn't LSF do this by way of SWF last time, back in the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 The impotent commie rage in this thread is brilliant. If anyone ever needed proof that LSF is the addled, buzz word addicted, delusional, mentally insufficient commie to INT's savvy business commie, this war/thread should be more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1339708296' post='2983951'] The impotent commie rage in this thread is brilliant. If anyone ever needed proof that LSF is the addled, buzz word addicted, delusional, mentally insufficient commie to INT's savvy business commie, this war/thread should be more than enough. [/quote] You know, when someone else declares a completely different war just to keep you from !@#$@#$ everything up, you can't say !@#$ about impotence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1339708557' post='2983955'] You know, when someone else declares a completely different war just to keep you from !@#$@#$ everything up, you can't say !@#$ about impotence. [/quote] You say that like war is a bad thing. Having said that, I doubt the validity of your assessment regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='shahenshah' timestamp='1339707943' post='2983944'] Do you think its fine to aid rogues intentionally? [/quote] Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine, eh, Shahenshah? *nothing is true, everything is permitted: The Creed Of The Assassin Edited June 14, 2012 by Margrave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Nestor Durruti Magon' timestamp='1339700846' post='2983804'] ITT: Liberals get frothy about the impoliteness of the anarchists towards the fascists, and declare that our impoliteness towards our oppressors makes us not really "innocent victims," and therefore we deserve to be smashed.[/quote] Do tell us, how has NoR oppressed you? [quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1339703469' post='2983854'] My, aren't we misinformed. You assume that NoR is white supremacist because they are German? That's a tad racist don't you think? [/quote] Good mam (I think?), all Germans are Nazis. How dare you make any other implications to the contrary. [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1339708296' post='2983951'] The impotent commie rage in this thread is brilliant. If anyone ever needed proof that LSF is the addled, buzz word addicted, delusional, mentally insufficient commie to INT's savvy business commie, this war/thread should be more than enough. [/quote] LSF is the North Korea to Int's China. OK, not perfect, but you see what I'm getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestor Durruti Magon Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Exige' timestamp='1339701375' post='2983818']a) being socialist and communist. Both being worst than fascist ( socialist < communist < nazi < fascist < the treehuggers < democrats < ... )[/quote] [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1339701414' post='2983819'] fascism and Nazism are not interchangeable terms [/quote] [quote name='Aeros' timestamp='1339703469' post='2983854']You assume that NoR is white supremacist because they are German? That's a tad racist don't you think?[/quote] >sigh<. Here comes the 12 year old brigade, trying to explain political theory they've thought about for five minutes and never read anything about. No, you idiot, I am not assuming anything. Nordreich harbors currently and HAS ALWAYS harbored white supremacists. They recruited off of StormFront for fuxache. Also, IC roles alone leave them as white supremacists, at the very least IC. Germans aren't necessarily white supremacists. But to roleplay Germany during WWII, to use Nazi iconography, to call yourself ___Reich, you are clearly modeling yourself on Nazis. Nazism, as a variant of fascism (really the most well known variant) is a national-supremacist ideology (in Germany's case, yes, white) where the relation of the nation-state reigns supreme over every other human relation. Fascism is the shocktroop ideology of reaction, to be used by the capitalist, the white supremacist, and the patriarch when bourgeois democracy fails to dilute the struggle for freedom into quiet reform. Exige, your Glenn Beck is showing, with your SPEEK ENGLISH comment and your befuddled political thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1339689564' post='2983481']Fact is that NoR tried to reach out to LSF to settle this diplomaticaly. LSF response send more aid and lift the sanction. NoR let the slap in the face go and were willing to walk away. LSF chose to punch them in the nose and that is what caused this. No matter what INT NATO or any other AA does from here on out will change the fact that NoR was willing to let this go and LSF pushed it. [/quote] Actually, that's not entirely correct, at least in terms of who punched who first. Yes, LSF nations aided nations who attacked Nor. Not smart taking into account the "common practice" that doing can be used as a justification for war. I will also grant that their very libertarian response of not doing anything about it as an alliance does not fit well into the "common practices" of this world either. However, having gotten to know the LSF members somewhat, it IS within their philosophical belief system. Each LSF nation is their own nation and thus able to make decisions independently of the others. What happened is that some of the LSF members decided to give their former members who were attacking Nor economic aid. As a response Nor tried to talk to LSF as a group. The Libertarian Socialist Federation, being what their name implies, brushed it off. Nor (being an alliance with similar policies to many others and not holding the libertarian view) decided to interpret the actions of a few of the LSF members as representing the whole and Nor punched LSF in the nose. Perhaps the punch in the nose by Nor was "deserved" by most alliances standards, but regardless Nor was the alliance that decided to respond in a military fashion. [quote name='Bordiga' timestamp='1339692635' post='2983576'] I'm pretty sure that White Chocolate's point is not that Umbrella came to an agreement with NordReich as opposed to what LSF did. It is that the same situation occurs all the time with different alliances, but who are allowed to get away with it due to their political/military standing. Like, for example, is happening right now with MK. Or every other recent big war.[/quote] Yes. Although I was also just curious about how the Umbrella nation providing aid was dealt with as well. Seems the answer is with reparations. But I was also making a point that even though providing aid IS considered a reasonable justification for war historically, it's also something that is currently done by larger alliances when they believe they can do so without being attacked. Edited June 14, 2012 by White Chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Margrave' timestamp='1339708856' post='2983963'] Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine, eh, Shahenshah? [/quote] What? Edit1: My Arabic is v. bad, dunno why you decided to post in it. Edit2: ah ok, Thanks for your answer, it was however directed to Myth. Edited June 14, 2012 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Nestor Durruti Magon' timestamp='1339709477' post='2983975'] >sigh<. Here comes the 12 year old brigade, trying to explain political theory they've thought about for five minutes and never read anything about. No, you idiot, I am not assuming anything. Nordreich harbors currently and HAS ALWAYS harbored white supremacists. They recruited off of StormFront for fuxache. [b]Also, IC roles alone leave them as white supremacists, at the very least IC.[/b] [/quote] How? Are they campaigning for the triumph of the white team over all other spheres? NoR is black aren't they? Whoa, paradox! You are not talking about IC issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Tromp' timestamp='1339671088' post='2983230'] Hereno, you should be more considerate of MK's precarious position here. The poor guys have so many minions to control, so many strings to keep separated from each other! [/quote] That is just pure awesome right there. I couldn't even read the other 6 pages of this thread, because this post wins, hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='shahenshah' timestamp='1339709488' post='2983977'] What? Edit1: My Arabic is v. bad, dunno why you decided to post in it. Edit2: ah ok, Thanks for your answer, it was however directed to Myth. [/quote] I thought it funny someone reppin' an Assassin avatar was asking a question of morality. Remember my son, Everything is Permitted." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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