Ernesto Che Guevara Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Stormsend' timestamp='1339642597' post='2982600'] But they could pre-empt our pre-empt of their pre-empt! [/quote] [img]http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1820-yo-dawg.jpg[/img] But seriously, have fun everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellBade Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Admin dammit Dave..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I can't say I mind this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1339644282' post='2982707'] I don't see how that makes us terrible? [/quote] You're NG. Everything you do is terrible, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Side King Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1339644780' post='2982730'] [img]http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1820-yo-dawg.jpg[/img] But seriously, have fun everybody. [/quote] Xzibit? Jeez that brings back memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1339644694' post='2982726'] There are only two purposes to a [i]casus belli[/i]: (1) To promote the war in the realm of public opinion. (2) To state the grounds for which the war has been launched. A CB must be one, the other, or both. A CB that is neither is without purpose and we therefore wouldn't do it. You've already agreed that we don't care about the first purpose, so it must be the second. [/quote] It's okay, it's fabricated . We understand. Everyone thinks its !@#$%^&*, including your allies. Everyone just shuddup and fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity111 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1339644694' post='2982726'] There are only two purposes to a [i]casus belli[/i]: (1) To promote the war in the realm of public opinion. (2) To state the grounds for which the war has been launched. A CB must be one, the other, or both. A CB that is neither is without purpose and we therefore wouldn't do it. You've already agreed that we don't care about the first purpose, so it must be the second. [/quote] The point is if a CB that catered to public opinion was not needed, you could have started a war with "we don't like you." The upside to this style of CB is that you could have declared on CSN whenever you felt like it and the CB would still be relevant, and (presumably) fewer CSN would have escaped into PM. And if there was a leak in OpSec, you could simply call off the attack until later and let them stew in PM for a while. After they came back out, the CB would still be there for you to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akama Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1339644129' post='2982698'] Perhaps because it is the honest reasoning behind our actions? Dave is accused of less than even Ordo Verde, and the Kingdom rode to the distant green defense. I see no reason why we should not ride again. CSN is a terrible alliance that is, once again, in the wrong. We aim to punish them for it. For Dave93. [/quote] Dave did more than just accept spied information. He encouraged Rota to take screenshots of CSN's forums. This is more similar to what Dajobo had Lennox do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksaber Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Akama' timestamp='1339645052' post='2982741'] Dave did more than just accept spied information. He encouraged Rota to take screenshots of CSN's forums. [/quote] That's a pretty serious accusation! Do you have proof of this? Please post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1339644129' post='2982698'] Perhaps because it is the honest reasoning behind our actions? Dave is accused of less than even Ordo Verde, and the Kingdom rode to the distant green defense. I see no reason why we should not ride again. CSN is a terrible alliance that is, once again, in the wrong. We aim to punish them for it. For Dave93. [/quote] And yet, Dave is accused of more than Kait was (ostensibly, ghosting RoK), and MK didn't seem to have a problem with attacking her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Wtf? Dave didn't do anything but tell me to spy, I did the work. Wheres my credits list? Edited June 14, 2012 by Rotavele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyd3r Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Anyone realize how much publicity Dave93 is getting? He's like Korean Pop for weird fat white guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1339644456' post='2982715'] Oh I'm sorry I can not compare historical situations? I'll go inform Ardus the guy who compared this to "rolling out" in Karma who posted right above me. [/quote] You're as free to bring up historical situations and wars as I am to point out why they aren't applicable to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejarue Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Velocity111' timestamp='1339645003' post='2982740'] The point is if a CB that catered to public opinion was not needed, you could have started a war with "we don't like you." The upside to this style of CB is that [b]you could have declared on CSN whenever you felt like it[/b] and the CB would still be relevant, and (presumably) fewer CSN would have escaped into PM. And if there was a leak in OpSec, you could simply call off the attack until later and let them stew in PM for a while. After they came back out, the CB would still be there for you to use. [/quote] That's pretty much just what they did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Sir Humphrey' timestamp='1339645262' post='2982747'] And yet, Dave is accused of more than Kait was (ostensibly, ghosting RoK), and MK didn't seem to have a problem with attacking her. [/quote] No, we had other problems with Kait that led to us wanting her. MK's problems with Kait date back several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Quiziotle' timestamp='1339645335' post='2982753'] You're as free to bring up historical situations and wars as I am to point out why they aren't applicable to this one. [/quote] Cool, then I'll point out your examples aren't applicable either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Dave93, you lucky !@#$%^&. This is going to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity111 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='dejarue' timestamp='1339645411' post='2982755'] That's pretty much just what they did... [/quote] No, I'm pretty sure you would've seen a war much earlier if they did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1339645431' post='2982757'] Cool, then I'll point out your examples aren't applicable either. [/quote] sounds like you two've got this all worked out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1339645620' post='2982765'] sounds like you two've got this all worked out! [/quote] I know mayne. Feels great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1339645620' post='2982765'] sounds like you two've got this all worked out! [/quote] That isn't even applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 You know what? The sad thing is, is that if I had kissed Doomhouse's/NG ass a week ago, I'd be held on a high throne and told about how great I am.... However, a true woman sticks to her honor and her values. I hope the social sell out was worth it Dave93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Rhyd3r' timestamp='1339645312' post='2982752'] Anyone realize how much publicity Dave93 is getting? He's like Korean Pop for weird fat white guys. [/quote] Please do not make that segment of MK's membership start posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1339645715' post='2982772'] You know what? The sad thing is, is that if I had kissed Doomhouse's/NG ass a week ago, I'd be held on a high throne and told about how great I am.... However, a true woman sticks to her honor and her values. I hope the social sell out was worth it Dave93. [/quote] you tried that three or four times and didn't get held on any throne except a toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Colt Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1339645715' post='2982772'] You know what? The sad thing is, is that if I had kissed Doomhouse's/NG ass a week ago, I'd be held on a high throne and told about how great I am.... However, a true woman sticks to her honor and her values. I hope the social sell out was worth it Dave93. [/quote] i can guarantee that would not be the case for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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