Taget Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 [quote name='Gingervites' timestamp='1335402841' post='2959383'] SSSW18 because that name is freaking awesome. [/quote] Couldn't agree more. As for the discussion over =LOST=. =LOST= was all types of awsome. And for an alliance that small they managed to stick their noses into everything. And not in an annoying they don't belong type of way. But in a meaningful classy player who knows what the hell they are doing behind the scenes type of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 KoC...that is all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormones74 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 F.A.C.E. not mentioned? This thread fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 If we can agree on anything in this thread, it's that there are too many opinions (O.P's included) to accurately make a "Top 25 disbanded alliances" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholy Culkin Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I don't know about you guys but I can't wait to read the descriptions for GOLD and Anathema! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Didn't see this until now but I like the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Updated GOLD* Anathema's update comes tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 TDSM8 will always be #1 in my heart :> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1337556327' post='2969989'] If we can agree on anything in this thread, it's that there are too many opinions (O.P's included) to accurately make a "Top 25 disbanded alliances" list. [/quote] Not necessarily true. There are a few common denominators of alliances that are [i]in[/i] the top 25; however, their placement/order is a completely different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I wasn't around for these alliances. So even if people argue over the list, it is still a very nice thing to see and read about so I can learn more about the history of the game, and get a better understanding of the politics of the game today. The fact people are arguing over it is even better as then that gives multiple views of the alliances chosen and feeds more information into the mix. Rather than simply stating that a certain alliance was terrible it would be nice to have a description of why they were terrible. Every alliance on that list is disbanded, which implies that they all failed in some fairly major way at some point. The descent to that failure would be more interesting to a new player than the just the fact that someone we never knew was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 The summary given for DE pretty much proves they shouldn't be on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krihelion Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 where is FOK, iFOK, and PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 [color="#0000FF"]Might I suggest adding Tri-Color Federation to this list? They were the first alliance to attempt to have a presence on three spheres. Do not mistake them for a multi-colored alliance, however. They allowed nations only on aqua, pink, and brown, with each sphere getting representation in a senate. Sure they might have failed miserably, lasting only six months and never doing anything notable (or even getting more than a few nations on either the pink or brown spheres, thus even failing in their tri-colored thing), but at least they tried to something. Considering that this list requires neither success nor noteworthiness I strongly feel that TCF deserves to be in the high company of the likes of Anathema.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 GOLD was an excellent example of a good idea that proved itself to be entirely to impractical. As a former member i'll let it go at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raasaa Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 i am glad NV is not on that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheus Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) For my own entertainment I decided to come up with my own list of top 25 disbanded alliances based on Incitatus' criteria of stats, political impact and community, but could only come up with 16 that could really cut muster. I've ruled out any alliances that have stated [b]themselves[/b] that they have been reformed (hence why GOONS (original) is on the list and VE (original) is not). Also I've ruled out any alliances that clearly have had a political impact, but only because they've been the hotspot or trigger for a war that was going to happen anyway (like Ordo Verde or Brotherhood of the Storm) Also, this list doesn't reflect my personal tastes. They are a number of alliances that have disbanded in past that I've really liked and frankly they are a number of alliances on the below list that I detested, this list is as objective as possible. Why only 16? Well, I was going to do 25 but what I found is that after this top 16 most disbanded alliances they are so many that are more or less on a par as to make any listing for them meaningless. None of them have really excelled. In fact I was actually struggling after the top 7, but wanted to flesh the list out as much as possible. What that tells me is that disbanding "headline" alliances is actually the exception rather than the norm. Perhaps predictably most headline alliances don't disband. 16. CIS 15. MDC 14. Genmay 13. ONOS 12. Atlantis 11. ICP 10. GOLD 9. CDS 8. TOOL 7. \m/ 6. Vox Populi 5. GGA 4. NAAC 3. LUE 2. FOK! 1. GOONS (original) Edited May 26, 2012 by Altheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheus Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) Double Post Edited May 26, 2012 by Altheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 [quote name='Altheus' timestamp='1338027253' post='2972698'] For my own entertainment I decided to come up with my own list of top 25 disbanded alliances based on Incitatus' criteria of stats, political impact and community, but could only come up with 16 that could really cut muster. I've ruled out any alliances that have stated [b]themselves[/b] that they have been reformed (hence why GOONS (original) is on the list and VE (original) is not). Also I've ruled out any alliances that clearly have had a political impact, but only because they've been the hotspot or trigger for a war that was going to happen anyway (like Ordo Verde or Brotherhood of the Storm) Also, this list doesn't reflect my personal tastes. They are a number of alliances that have disbanded in past that I've really liked and frankly they are a number of alliances on the below list that I detested, this list is as objective as possible. Why only 16? Well, I was going to do 25 but what I found is that after this top 16 most disbanded alliances they are so many that are more or less on a par as to make any listing for them meaningless. None of them have really excelled. In fact I was actually struggling after the top 7, but wanted to flesh the list out as much as possible. What that tells me is that disbanding "headline" alliances is actually the exception rather than the norm. Perhaps predictably most headline alliances don't disband. 16. CIS 15. MDC 14. Genmay 13. ONOS 12. Atlantis 11. ICP 10. GOLD 9. CDS 8. TOOL 7. \m/ 6. Vox Populi 5. GGA 4. NAAC 3. LUE 2. FOK! 1. GOONS (original) [/quote] It's a good start, but I would include PC, Athens, Vanguard (breakup of Orange unity) and =LOST= (led the push for creation on CnG) as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 [quote name='Altheus' timestamp='1338027253' post='2972698'] For my own entertainment I decided to come up with my own list of top 25 disbanded alliances based on Incitatus' criteria of stats, political impact and community, but could only come up with 16 that could really cut muster. I've ruled out any alliances that have stated [b]themselves[/b] that they have been reformed (hence why GOONS (original) is on the list and VE (original) is not). Also I've ruled out any alliances that clearly have had a political impact, but only because they've been the hotspot or trigger for a war that was going to happen anyway (like Ordo Verde or Brotherhood of the Storm) Also, this list doesn't reflect my personal tastes. They are a number of alliances that have disbanded in past that I've really liked and frankly they are a number of alliances on the below list that I detested, this list is as objective as possible. Why only 16? Well, I was going to do 25 but what I found is that after this top 16 most disbanded alliances they are so many that are more or less on a par as to make any listing for them meaningless. None of them have really excelled. In fact I was actually struggling after the top 7, but wanted to flesh the list out as much as possible. What that tells me is that disbanding "headline" alliances is actually the exception rather than the norm. Perhaps predictably most headline alliances don't disband. 16. CIS 15. MDC 14. Genmay 13. ONOS 12. Atlantis 11. ICP 10. GOLD 9. CDS 8. TOOL 7. \m/ 6. Vox Populi 5. GGA 4. NAAC 3. LUE 2. FOK! 1. GOONS (original) [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]FOK should be no higher than number six on that list. They were a great alliance for many years, but truthfully they were never the major player that GGA, NAAC, LUE, and GOONS were, nor were they Vox either. They were a good, solid alliance and reliable ally, much like some of the other alliances lower on the list.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 [quote name='Altheus' timestamp='1338027253' post='2972698'] 16. CIS 15. MDC 14. Genmay 13. ONOS 12. Atlantis 11. ICP 10. GOLD 9. CDS 8. TOOL 7. \m/ 6. Vox Populi 5. GGA 4. NAAC 3. LUE 2. FOK! 1. GOONS (original) [/quote] Intensely curious as to your justification for FOK! being ahead of LUE. I would disagree on GOONS as well, but can at least understand the idea behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholy Culkin Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 When do we get Anathema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheus Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1338228648' post='2973635'] Intensely curious as to your justification for FOK! being ahead of LUE. I would disagree on GOONS as well, but can at least understand the idea behind it. [/quote] Community. I might not agree myself with the original criteria of stats, political impact and community, but given those criteria I'd place FOK! very highly, largely because of the exclusive nature of being a non-english speaking alliance. If I was just judging based on political impact and stats I'd probabuly rate FOK! as 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 What the $%&@ is an Anathema and why are half of these things ahead of TDSM8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1338417292' post='2974767'] What the $%&@ is an Anathema and why are half of these things ahead of TDSM8? [/quote] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=110397&view=findpost&p=2955696"]Another useless micro, founded by Kevanovia. Hadrian, Doeroler, Daggarz, James Maximus... were in it too[/url]. Oh and it lasted 6 days. Yes, six days. "But it had so much potential, dude!" Edited May 30, 2012 by potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Also the thought that Nemesis was more relevant or "higher grade" than Poison Clan. You really are being way too subjective about a Top 25 list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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