ZeroRemorse Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Phaedron' timestamp='1330578138' post='2931012'] Let's make one thing clear: This is not 2009. I know some of you seem to think so, but I swear it isn't. MDPs are no longer the treaty of choice for the intelligent alliance. Treaty chaining really just doesn't happen, and you don't need to look past the last major war to see how what would normally be a long treaty chain through a BLOC completely being broken apart by other interests. I think that an ODP BLOC is an intelligent choice to make. You've got alliances that have similar values and goals banding together to provide security. An attacking alliance would have to acquire a good deal of intelligence on the inner workings of each alliance in the BLOC to figure out who is going to exercise their ODP and who won't. And an ODP isn't nearly as valueless as it was in the days of the clean(ish) treaty web -- there are a lot more alliances (The Apparatus included) who have exercised an ODP under legitimate circumstances, and changed the complexion of a conflict. So go ahead and beat up on these folks for going the ODP route, but you're basically just reminding the rest of us that you are living in Bob long-past. Next you're going to tell us that no one on Red Team can be tech raided. [/quote] Sir....I need not say more than just "Bravo". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesusfreak Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1330541557' post='2930689'] Who are these alliances? [/quote] No excuses, now Every time I make a post in our embassy at NG, you're there Edited March 2, 2012 by Jesusfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 1. Love the concept, have mulled it over many times myself. Way to pull the trigger. 2. Why "Arizona" if I may ask? 3. Nice graphics and flag display. The flag nazi approves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuurei Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1330637525' post='2931458'] 2. Why "Arizona" if I may ask? [/quote] The name was something I came up with for a previous plan that never came together, but the name stuck with me so I used it when putting this group together. Arizona = AZ = [b]A[/b]utomatic [b]Z[/b]I As I said, that was from a preceding concept, that only the name carried over. The meaning does not necessarily apply now. Arizona, being one of the last territories, and the home of famous cowboy stuff like Tombstone (OK Corral) also lends itself nicely to the thematic reference of the new frontier where new places and identities were created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Richard VII' timestamp='1330577684' post='2931006'] Sheesh Wes. This is just... bad. [/quote] Erm, I dont get it...But its making me want to fight you, whatever it is. Whaddaya say? Gypsy vs. The D-Town Failure? Edited March 2, 2012 by wes the wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakos Raanb Dorou Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='wes the wise' timestamp='1330660396' post='2931673'] Erm, I dont get it...But its making me want to fight you, whatever it is. Whaddaya say? Gypsy vs. The D-Town Failure? [/quote] [IMG]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f28/RichardVII/12johnwayne-1.jpg[/IMG] You're in Arizona territory now, pilgrim. ... [IMG]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f28/RichardVII/eastwood-1.jpg[/IMG] Make my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'd like this more if it was more than an ODP bloc. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Can't wait for the family portrait. [img]http://img.wikinut.com/img/miex772gql3rxcr3/jpeg/0/Raising-Arizona.jpeg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Empire of Halin Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 oDP bloc? Nothing relevant then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howlin mad Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Looks nice. I wish you all the best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neemad90 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Amazing, very stoked about this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 [quote name='howlin mad' timestamp='1330714140' post='2932027'] Looks nice. I wish you all the best of luck [/quote] Your avatar pic...very funny. Almost seems like the thought on his mind is "Tacos you say?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Doo Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) [b]Sheriff Joe? [IMG]http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ScoobyDoo910/Joe-Arpaio-Fist-Angry-cropped-proto-custom_28.jpg[/IMG] Not taking Crap? [IMG]http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ScoobyDoo910/jan-brewer-finger-obama.jpg[/IMG] Aces and Eights? [IMG]http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ScoobyDoo910/cards3.jpg[/IMG] We are Arizona! [IMG]http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g388/ScoobyDoo910/biteme.jpg[/IMG] Edited March 3, 2012 by Scooby Doo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natahanel Octavianus Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Congrats and as CCC member I'll support this alliances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regent Pancras Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Congrats to our friends in the Christian Coalition of Countries on this new association. Warm congratulations to Yuurei who I know has been working on this for some considerable time, to the benefit of TTE. o/ Arizona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Hubb Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Congratulations to our friends in CCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydian Way Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Regarding ODP vs MDP. If what the members of Arizona say ("We're really close.", "We'll defend each other even though it is an ODP.", etc) is true, it would make more sense to just have a well written non-chaining MDP. You get the same result, defending each other when an war of aggression is launched, and the bonus of your pact having more teeth/legitimacy for public consumption. This is the bloc of "We love each other enough to talk about how we have each other's back, but not enough to even put ink on a non-chaining/limited* MDP". *As in you could even explicitly spell our articles regarding how the treaty is not valid if a member alliance spies, etc. Cover all the bases and have it downgrade to a NAP or something for the duration of wars resulting from such actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamwalrus Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 [quote name='Hydian Way' timestamp='1330817244' post='2932736'] Regarding ODP vs MDP. If what the members of Arizona say ("We're really close.", "We'll defend each other even though it is an ODP.", etc) is true, it would make more sense to just have a well written non-chaining MDP. [b]You get the same result, defending each other when an war of aggression is launched, and the bonus of your pact having more teeth/legitimacy for public consumption.[/b] This is the bloc of "We love each other enough to talk about how we have each other's back, but not enough to even put ink on a non-chaining/limited* MDP". *As in you could even explicitly spell our articles regarding how the treaty is not valid if a member alliance spies, etc. Cover all the bases and have it downgrade to a NAP or something for the duration of wars resulting from such actions. [/quote] You are assuming that we want the public to be able to consume this. We have stated our bloc for public acknowledgment and now you all can interpret it as you want. What is important is how the alliances within the bloc develop our relationships and respond to our mutual ideals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheApollo Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I know yuur has been working on this for a while, for that great work and well done! I hope you guys get what you want out of this bloc and your future is clear and strong. Good luck fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 With alliances as great as ours theres no doubt we will succeed and excel at our alliances goals. Its only a matter of time until we gain the respect that some wish to deny us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakos Raanb Dorou Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) [quote name='ZeroRemorse' timestamp='1330935434' post='2933786'] With alliances as great as ours theres no doubt we will succeed and excel at our alliances goals. Its only a matter of time until we gain the respect that some wish to deny us. [/quote] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qFiyjwMlP0Y/SxCLLHbs4LI/AAAAAAAABOk/RjjHaJJi_qk/s1600/political-pictures-putin-dmitry-take-over-world.jpg[/img] Edited March 5, 2012 by Richard VII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [quote name='Richard VII' timestamp='1330937979' post='2933802'] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qFiyjwMlP0Y/SxCLLHbs4LI/AAAAAAAABOk/RjjHaJJi_qk/s1600/political-pictures-putin-dmitry-take-over-world.jpg[/img] [/quote] I see what you did thar and raise you.[img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/262/394/f0f.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Ditat Deus o/ All hail the great state (bloc) of Arizona, where if you misbehave you will be thrown into the grand canyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxasm Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 [quote name='wes the wise' timestamp='1330575125' post='2930971'] 1. Since your so curious, I'll check around and get back to you on that. [/quote] Protip: Wes is the secretly gay one. It just wouldn't be a secret if he told you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cao Pai Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Could have sworn CCC had disbanded... Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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