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[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1328068494' post='2912167']
Oh no we must all recognize the all important Triyun.
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What prevents alliances from getting raided or rolled is their international recognition. Rogue states do not prosper and live.

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[quote name='Proest' timestamp='1328069080' post='2912186']
Wow, that is a bit much there buddy.
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So ironic. [i]Nowww [/i]you're a champion of virtue.

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[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328069561' post='2912195']
So let's keep this on track:

MK attacked the mother of a runaway child
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I think what you're not understanding here is this, MK will take that statement as a point of pride and laugh about it. This is honest to Admin, sigworthy material you've got here.

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[quote name='Archon' timestamp='1328066653' post='2912125']
I was unaware that KaitlinK, ruler of the nation Kastay, had some tragedy befall her. I had heard naught of it. I would wish her well, but given that she has escalated a conflict via nuclear weaponry, I think I'd rather see her burn. Nothing personal - just alliance business. [/quote]

Under similar circumstances, especially in light of the OOC nature of the pseudo AA your little hit squad donned while making their attack, many people would have done the same thing and made sure they made them pay and pay dearly. That you now try to hide under the cloak of IC rationale is truly sad.

[quote][OOC: For all the recent controversy concerning the IC/OOC line, it's always amusing to see it applied inconsistently.][/quote]

OOC: Members of your alliance decided to become private investigators, track down the biological father of a missing girl, and based solely on his side of the story and a few news stories and video clips, decided that they had the entire story, switched into their professional family "advocate" hats, and conducted IC and OOC actions, including creating a series of defamatory images insulting two players. As with obscenity, I may not be able to give an exact definition of what's too far over the OOC/IC line, but I know it when I see it.

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[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328069561' post='2912195']
So let's keep this on track:

MK attacked the mother of a runaway child
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Saying the same thing three times doesn't make it true, clever, or relevant. If you have nothing else to add, it would be better to dismiss yourself.
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[quote name='Roadie' timestamp='1328069785' post='2912200']
I think what you're not understanding here is this, MK will take that statement as a point of pride and laugh about it. This is honest to Admin, sigworthy material you've got here.
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That's fine. If that is what MK wants to be known for then go for it. It doesn't exactly instill fear.

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[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328069135' post='2912188']
Yeah, that's what she said.
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Check your inbox on here.

RoK, again, good luck.

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[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328069561' post='2912195']
So let's keep this on track:

MK attacked the mother of a runaway child
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[OOC]Pretty much, and I'm wondering why anyone in MK would want to be like Slayer99 when he was crusading against NoV. The parallel is clear, obvious, and uncomfortable. But I'm not going to drag OOC stuff into an IC discussion. Ingame, it's a different story.[/OOC]

MK attacked a nation that a previous government of RoK said was not under protection, but that the current government of RoK has accepted into their alliance. RoK's political isolation leaves them with few alternatives for dealing with this situation.

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[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1328070173' post='2912209']
[i]Taboo matters redacted[/i]

MK attacked a nation that a previous government of RoK said was not under protection, but that the current government of RoK has accepted into their alliance. RoK's political isolation leaves them with few alternatives for dealing with this situation.
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Our grievances against KaitlinK have existed for a long time, as has our disdain for Rangarok. Regardless of whatever events may have led to her ouster from RoK, our nations are engaged with her for matters old, and with her atomic retaliation, new.

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[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1328070173' post='2912209']
MK attacked a nation that a previous government of RoK said was not under protection, but that the current government of RoK has accepted into their alliance. RoK's political isolation leaves them with few alternatives for dealing with this situation.
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As Bob Janova has already pointed out, the solution is simple unless MK want to act like @#$%^. They knew she had nukes when tehy attacked her, they knew they'd get nuked. Let the wars continue until they expire now that she's in an alliance, end of story. Par for the course.

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[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1328070173' post='2912209']
[OOC]Pretty much, and I'm wondering why anyone in MK would want to be like Slayer99 when he was crusading against NoV. The parallel is clear, obvious, and uncomfortable. But I'm not going to drag OOC stuff into an IC discussion. Ingame, it's a different story.[/OOC]

MK attacked a nation that a previous government of RoK said was not under protection, but that the current government of RoK has accepted into their alliance. RoK's political isolation leaves them with few alternatives for dealing with this situation.
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That pretty much sums it up. Bob was the legitimate emperor when the edict was issued. As disgusting as that fact may be, it is a fact.

So keep on kicking that mother-in-crisis butt MK. You truly are warriors to be feared.

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[quote name='Guzalot' timestamp='1328070659' post='2912218']
That pretty much sums it up. Bob was the legitimate emperor when the edict was issued. As disgusting as that fact may be, it is a fact.

So keep on kicking that mother-in-crisis butt MK. You truly are warriors to be feared.
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I am aware of no present crisis in the realm of KaitlinK aside from that which we now inflict upon her nation.

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[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1328069928' post='2912203']
Under similar circumstances, especially in light of the OOC nature of the pseudo AA your little hit squad donned while making their attack, many people would have done the same thing and made sure they made them pay and pay dearly. That you now try to hide under the cloak of IC rationale is truly sad.



OOC: Members of your alliance decided to become private investigators, track down the biological father of a missing girl, and based solely on his side of the story and a few news stories and video clips, decided that they had the entire story, switched into their professional family "advocate" hats, and conducted IC and OOC actions, including creating a series of defamatory images insulting two players. As with obscenity, I may not be able to give an exact definition of what's too far over the OOC/IC line, but I know it when I see it.
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Wat. The alliance affiliation worn is their own business - they have felt the need to convert to a new god from the light of Allarchon (which wounds me, truly), and that is their choice. There are many folks in the Kingdom who have disliked KaitlinK for a very long time now, dating back to when MA and RoK dropped MK a long while ago. This is the first good chance they've had to go for her, and she was served up by her own alliance's leadership. The hell if I care about the circumstances around it, or what folly allowed them the opportunity.

OOC: To be entirely fair, the majority of the people here based their judgement solely on the Kaitlin/Hoo side of the story, so blasting MKers for taking the other side is kind of bunk when you all are running on only half the story yourselves. However, I've of no mind to argue on this, especially not in this arena. The moderation staff has taken their side on the matter, and so I'd rather take the discussion elsewhere out of respect for them.

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