Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Sir Humphrey' timestamp='1327369294' post='2905882'] Huh. Maybe if you didn't keep throwing up straw man arguments when I address your previous points, you might have won ... some respect. [/quote] [img]http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/188477_o.gif[/img] For real though, I hope FAN sees the OP as a reason to reengage. I'd gladly jump in on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327364290' post='2905841'] As I suspected. Letum and Erneto Che Guevara, your apologies can begin now. I will be over there [i]not[/i] holding my breath with this look on my face. NPO, TPF and NATO couldn't get FAN to surrender, so they took the best deal they could ("please stop shooting at us") and unilaterally declared victory to a chorus of hailing nincompoops. Cute. [/quote] Well I can't speak for NPO or TPF, but NATO had returned to growth and our lower tier were coordinating pretty well and having a lot of fun, we were very very far from being tapped out militarily. Most natoans enjoyed the fight and were only to glad to walk away after a handshake. I think you are drawing very sweeping conclusions from very select posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327368115' post='2905872'] Huh. Maybe if you had, you might have won. [/quote] Oh snap, that only adds further insult to our crushing defeat. Why you gotta be like that yo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='berbers' timestamp='1327370869' post='2905901'] I think you are drawing very sweeping conclusions from very select posts. [/quote] I think you're wasting your time arguing with someone to whose words nobody assigns any credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krack Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='berbers' timestamp='1327370869' post='2905901'] Well I can't speak for NPO or TPF, but NATO had returned to growth and our lower tier were coordinating pretty well and having a lot of fun, we were very very far from being tapped out militarily. Most natoans enjoyed the fight and were only to glad to walk away after a handshake. I think you are drawing very sweeping conclusions from very select posts. [/quote] Select posts? I quoted the original post and the peace terms; it's not my fault they purposefully say completely different things. One makes you look like a mighty military machine (the pre-amble that nobody from FAN ever saw or agreed to) and the other makes you look like a clown show coalition that is incapable of making a 1.5 mil NS surrender (the actual peace terms). Coupled together, they serve as a sad attempt by the OP to try and hide your "clown show" status, and a completely predictable response by the coalition's general memberships who, instead of returning to their leadership with a "What the #@$% do you mean you didn't get them to surrender?", instead elects to participate in an elaborate charade of first pretending that they cannot understand what is being stated ("Whatever do you mean? FAN's signatures are on the bottom. Clearly they admit defeat.), followed by the laborious and continual task of digging up and then moving the goal posts ("Sure, they didn't admit defeat, but they still lost because we still had the ability to attack them if we hadn't agreed to a mutual cessation of hostilities."). Wash, rinse, repeat. In case you hadn't noticed, you're all now disagreeing with each other (presumably because the collective leadership slipped one by their memberships) - maybe you should have a conversation behind closed doors, actually read the text of the peace agreement, and ask your leadership "What happened?" ... and then collectively come back and participate as though you are informed on the matter. Or don't. Either way, it's not gonna make the circus any less funny. Edited January 24, 2012 by Krack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 RAWR! WE ARE FAN! WE NO LOSE! WE ONLY WIN. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327372577' post='2905927'] Select posts? I quoted the original post and the peace terms; it's not my fault they purposefully say completely different things. One makes you look like a mighty military machine (the pre-amble that nobody from FAN ever saw or agreed to) and the other makes you look like a clown show coalition that is incapable of making a 1.5 mil NS surrender (the actual peace terms).[/quote] FAN was a 5m NS alliance before we started with them. Surrender depends on a voluntary admission by the defeated party. The failure of FAN's attack, and therefore its defeat, depends on no such admission. Edited January 24, 2012 by Sir Humphrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Problem with this thread is there is too much "No U" and clearly not enough Nuke Porn... I will do my best to swing this back in favor of awesomeness... [img]http://s3.hubimg.com/u/3061110_f520.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01002/atomic-nuclear-exp_1002958c.jpg[/img] [img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q9uG7SZ71Wg/TYa11EZ6z1I/AAAAAAAAAIE/5ixfdCjP5Ek/japan+nuclear+cloud.jpg[/img] [img]http://jcolavito.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nagasaki_nuclear_bomb.jpg[/img] [img]http://systemsoperational.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Megaton_explosion.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327372577' post='2905927'] Words [/quote] I've got to say, I didn't think anything would make me agree with Crymson, but I am wasting my time. Going to use this wasted space to give another shoutout to FAN, good show guys! I tripled my casualties, so the real winner in all this is me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 By the way, next time someone should tell NPL that even their largest nations need guerrilla camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1327373991' post='2905943'] By the way, next time someone should tell NPL that even their largest nations need guerrilla camps. [/quote] Are you saying there is a problem with the NPL War Guide? [quote] [size="6"]Official War Guide of the Nuclear Proliferation League:[/size] [b][i]Chapter 1: All you need to know to succeed in war.[/i][/b] NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1327374400' post='2905947'] Are you saying there is a problem with the NPL War Guide? [/quote] He wasn't very good at that part either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1327377191' post='2905969'] He wasn't very good at that part either. [/quote] Oh dear... was he at least well versed in the material from Chapter 2 of the NPL war guide? [quote][i][b]Chapter 2: So your facing a 30:1 beatdown... 180 tips to success![/b][/i] NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES NUKES[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Paul Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Princess Doomee' timestamp='1327268602' post='2904944'] Sir Paul, I would consider surrendering in perpetuity if I knew it would result in the end of your multimedia drivebyes! [/quote] Forgive me but I am unfamiliar with the term "mulitmedia drivebyes" (although I do think you would benefit from subscribing to my newsletter). Define this term, and I shall consider ending the behavior you find so offensive if it would forever end the NPO/FAN war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perceus Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 All these people here claiming FAN won because they "did not admit defeat" need to chill out. an alcoholic most of the time wont admit to his alcoholism, doesnt mean he is not alcoholic. as for NATO not succeeding in its goals, Sir Humphrey explained it quite eloquently and clear, if you can't comprehend that, then perhaps a reading comprehension tutor is in need. NATO's goal was to make sure FAN had not significant effect on NPO, FAN ended up with at least half its nations in Peace Mode, the other half was tied up with TPF and NATO nations. after two rounds any FAN nation that was not in PM was in the low tier range, former 50k+ Ns nations, nuke capable, fighting against originally low tier nations. I dont know about TPF but even with that advantage and with (hopefully) large warchest, FAN nations were ZI'ed by NATO nations and their slots were always tied up. Was FAN able to really put a strain in NPO, not in a single round. As for we got the best we could get, NPO was actually being nice and didn't want to keep making rumbles out of already rumbles in the form of FAN and FARK. We were only there to defend NPO and so we had no reason to stay past them. But trust me, I along with all of NATO could have gone on and on, gottan that 1.5 mil to under 1 mil for sure. Losing, hurts, but sometimes you gotta man up, mature and know when you got nothing to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwuss Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) One thing we can all agree on; FARK and NPL were smashed like they deserved. FAN, obviously from the outcome of the war, is just sad that they can't even prempt right. Edited January 24, 2012 by mrwuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327364290' post='2905841'] As I suspected. Letum and Erneto Che Guevara, your apologies can begin now. I will be over there [i]not[/i] holding my breath with this look on my face. NPO, TPF and NATO couldn't get FAN to surrender, so they took the best deal they could ("please stop shooting at us") and unilaterally declared victory to a chorus of hailing nincompoops. Cute. [/quote] What am I supposed to be apologizing for now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Max Power' timestamp='1327258736' post='2904824']NPO, Oly, BAPS, TLR and NG seems like a good match. [/quote] ssh, nobody knows about our sekrit MDAP bloc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1327394991' post='2906097'] ssh, nobody knows about our sekrit MDAP bloc... [/quote] The casualty whore bloc? I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pansy, stop leaking the name before its finalised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Napalm Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1327396075' post='2906100'] Pansy, stop leaking the name before its finalised [/quote] Moot point: a name that awesome will never fly. Someone will end up deciding to name it Sisyphus's Rock or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Krack' timestamp='1327367418' post='2905863'] OWF's highest form of comedy in action. [/quote] I realise you're upset, but I feel it's my duty to tell you that it's starting to get embarassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwuss Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 No, Krack passed embarrassing several threads ago. He's just lost his mind, everyone is feeding a mindless shell of a former decent poster. Let us have a moment of silence for the man as he now sleeps under the bridge with the rest of the unclean crazies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1327395335' post='2906098'] The casualty whore bloc? I like it. [/quote] I prefer the PC version. [i]The casualty escort bloc[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Jack is correct, the text in the original post that serves as a statement from the victorious coalition previous to the quoted instrument of peace, is just a statement from the victorious coalition with which wording anybody can agree or disagree with. Though, as is overlooked but its the only relevant thing, in the instrument of peace only concessions made are from FARK and FAN. Victors of the conflict are clear, by any standard. In the case of FAN concession is indeed minimal, no reentry, but there. War did not end with a simple statement of "end of hostilities" bur rather with terms to which one side needed to yield, and did. No spinning, denial, delusion can change the facts contained in the black and white of the instrument of peace, nor in the hard reality of loses on the battlefield. Though Sir Paul put it best, as far as I am concerned. For NPO and FAN this is merely an armistice and there is no need for this back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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