Triyun Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Dear Newer RPers, There is a certain presumptuousness to this letter, but I ask you to bear with me. It has seemed that we have gotten some new players these past few weeks, and many have been fantastic. Others though have had some issues. I think therefore it is beneficial to clarify some things and make some suggestions. First, IRC =/= IC, PM=/= IC, IG message =/= IC. All deals need to be done through IC RPing if they are to have IC effects. If you're unclear on the distinction please contact a GM or an older player (tidybowlman, Sarah Tintagl, Lynneth, etc all are pretty good about the distinctions too). Second, do not assume CN RP moves at the speed of light, and you need to be patient. You're highly unlikely to get a big Empire overnight. In fact many a newbie has died trying to do just that (many a big player too). If you push people for more land all the time (especially after they just gave you some), you will get them angry. The statistical likelihood is they have more allies and more firepower than you, so this works out to your detriment not the person you asks. Be patient, don't do every RP about annexation, slow and steady wins the race. Third, do not use first person narration, or speak as a macro player. Also use a novel format of dialogue not script format. Develop individual characters and use third person pronouns (the exception being letters written by a character OR dialogue or a thought). People respect style, and they are more likely to let you have your way if you write stylistically. Fourth, beware the eye of god. Your character does not know what you know by reading other peoples RPs. If there is no plausible way for your character to know something, they do not know it. Also do not make 'lucky guesses' as a substitute all the time. Guessing the other person's thoughts and plans time and time again is the same as having the eye of god. Fifth, if you can't post more than a sentence, its not worth posting that sentence. You should always aim for a paragraph minimum in a post. Sixth, seek out friends but don't bug them. You're probably well advised to make friends with an existing player. However, do not bug them over every minor thing. You should probably ask before attacking your neighbor, you don't need to ask little things though. Thanks in advance, One Slightly frustrated GM/ Older Player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I cannot help but agree with all the points made in this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishabad98 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I was mentioned many a times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Shocked I somehow got mentioned as a force for good in CNRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 [quote name='ishabad' timestamp='1325028300' post='2887561'] I was mentioned many a times [/quote] Were you now? I don't see your name anywhere in there...unless you have a guilty conscience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) Ok let's not turn this into a he said I said she said thread. In short for those who can't read well keep these in mind. 1) don't be a greedy cow.. just wait for more land. 2) Stop reading private communications. 3) Stop stinking up IRC and rp more. 4) The GM team does not exist for you to complain to on a 24 hour basis. If you need help consult the People's Court. Edited December 28, 2011 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I agree with the points mentioned in the open letter and I can only advise to always keep them in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShammySocialist Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I quite like this thread, it is made up from some contents that were imported from the land of awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggressivenutmeg Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Perhaps this should be pinned for when we get other new players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 it'd be nice if the older players also followed this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishabad98 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Dont be a foll like me Edited December 28, 2011 by ishabad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 ishabad, far easier to just not be Mogar. You'll get farther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 And what is the incentive for new RPers to follow these suggestions? What, as new Rpers, do we get in return? Respect? Interaction? Acceptance? I'm quite wondering if I should not be more like the ones not following any of this. It seems they have settled into the community far faster than I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325034292' post='2887656'] And what is the incentive for new RPers to follow these suggestions? What, as new Rpers, do we get in return? [b]Respect? Interaction? Acceptance?[/b] I'm quite wondering if I should not be more like the ones not following any of this. It seems they have settled into the community far faster than I have. [/quote] Yes, that is what you'll get. Ok, the Interaction part is a bit lacking, sorry. But in comparison to others, your nation still exists, people see you as original, and personally, I respect you as a competent RPer. The only problem you have is your location. Not many people are around, but you could PM those doing character RP's. Maybe they interact with you more then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Well said, Triyun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325034292' post='2887656'] And what is the incentive for new RPers to follow these suggestions? What, as new Rpers, do we get in return? Respect? Interaction? Acceptance? I'm quite wondering if I should not be more like the ones not following any of this. It seems they have settled into the community far faster than I have. [/quote] You're doing fine Sands. Don't change a thing, your RPs are great to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325034292' post='2887656'] And what is the incentive for new RPers to follow these suggestions? What, as new Rpers, do we get in return? Respect? Interaction? Acceptance? I'm quite wondering if I should not be more like the ones not following any of this. It seems they have settled into the community far faster than I have. [/quote] The enjoyment of knowing that most of us actually like reading your thread. Carry on son, you are doing just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' timestamp='1325037765' post='2887692'] The enjoyment of knowing that most of us actually like reading your thread. Carry on son, you are doing just fine. [/quote] I thought about this for a little while, and believe I have refined what to say so as to not sound too frustrated. I appreciate the compliments I have received, but I will make this observation. I seem to be a nice Rper to read, but I do not have four pages of good or bad [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107832&st=60"]replies[/url] to anything I've written IC. Other than my utility thread to mark my position on the map I have gotten no other interaction. My only ooc message from another CNRPer was an offer to buy my RP, and confirmation of being updated on the map. Perhaps I am being too critical of things, but look at it from my point of view. If I had not mentioned anything here I wouldn't even know if people read my RP. I've lurked for a quite while before joining so I have gotten a sense for what the community wants, but perhaps I missed what actually gets everyone's interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325044167' post='2887744'] I thought about this for a little while, and believe I have refined what to say so as to not sound too frustrated. I appreciate the compliments I have received, but I will make this observation. I seem to be a nice Rper to read, but I do not have four pages of good or bad [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107832&st=60"]replies[/url] to anything I've written IC. Other than my utility thread to mark my position on the map I have gotten no other interaction. My only ooc message from another CNRPer was an offer to buy my RP, and confirmation of being updated on the map. Perhaps I am being too critical of things, but look at it from my point of view. If I had not mentioned anything here I wouldn't even know if people read my RP. I've lurked for a quite while before joining so I have gotten a sense for what the community wants, but perhaps I missed what actually gets everyone's interest. [/quote] Sands, I'll be honest, if it was in my plot line I was going to have Theresia arrive in your territory with her Amazons. If you wouldn't mind, since we both have kind of nomadic type civilizations. I'd be happy to have someone come into the Sahara for a bit and we can do some interaction. I think given your location, on a continent that doesn't have a lot of RPs makes it hard at times. Also, don't be afraid to interact character wise in other RPs. Character RP has been rising as of late, so there's a lot of room and people would be happy to have you. But if it's okay with you, I will try to get one of the Amazons across the Sahara, maybe lost and gets found by your nomads? Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Give it time sands. You aren't running up and demanding treaties with everyone and more or less keeping to yourself. That's why most people are just watching versus participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Seventh, avoid the 4th wall, unless you're a particularly crazy individual. If you do not know what the 4th wall is.. don't even consider messing with it. Edited December 28, 2011 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Sands, perhaps your caravans should head east through the Empire of Judea, to the Silk Road. [quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1325059853' post='2887871'] Seventh, avoid the 4th wall, don't even consider messing with it. [/quote] ftfy Edited December 28, 2011 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325034292' post='2887656'] And what is the incentive for new RPers to follow these suggestions? What, as new Rpers, do we get in return? Respect? Interaction? Acceptance? I'm quite wondering if I should not be more like the ones not following any of this. It seems they have settled into the community far faster than I have. [/quote] You won't get rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 [quote name='Sands' timestamp='1325044167' post='2887744'] I thought about this for a little while, and believe I have refined what to say so as to not sound too frustrated. I appreciate the compliments I have received, but I will make this observation. I seem to be a nice Rper to read, but I do not have four pages of good or bad [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=107832&st=60"]replies[/url] to anything I've written IC. Other than my utility thread to mark my position on the map I have gotten no other interaction. My only ooc message from another CNRPer was an offer to buy my RP, and confirmation of being updated on the map. Perhaps I am being too critical of things, but look at it from my point of view. If I had not mentioned anything here I wouldn't even know if people read my RP. I've lurked for a quite while before joining so I have gotten a sense for what the community wants, but perhaps I missed what actually gets everyone's interest. [/quote] It isn't anything you do really, it's just Africa isn't the most popular continent. Your rp's are great but yeah when you're basically in the middle of nowhere it's hard to interact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDavid Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I know a lot of people like to RP in IRC and post it in the IC Forums. From what I understand, from what Triyun said, it is okay to do that, as long as you post it (that is if you want it to be cannon) yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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