Kzoppistan Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Gen Lee' timestamp='1315377649' post='2796205'] This is incredibly rich in the irony department. a. that you would now support "roguery" but mostly... b. that YOU of all people would preach about alliances being too scared to make any meaningful moves in the game and creating boredom. TOP under your direction is the definition of inaction, always sitting on the fence until the last moment and picking off the scraps. [/quote] If that's how you really feel about it, General Lee, perhaps your should have your alliance declare on them, you !@#$@#$ coward !@#$%*^. So says Johan *edit: your lucky im in anarchy, cause we're in range and i gotta nuke with your name on it !@#$%^ Edited September 7, 2011 by Kzoppistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315374743' post='2796189'] You've got us. The Gramlins, OMFG, BN and Argent are definitely the leading hegomonic superpowers. [/quote] And The Mushroom Kingdom treaty that ties you to DH. And VE treaty that ties you to PB. And the IRON treaty that ties you to Duckroll. So that's a direct tie to two of the largest blocs, plus the DH non-bloc bloc. Or were those treaties cancelled and TOP is no longer in a bloc and directly tied to other blocs and defacto blocs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1315386088' post='2796235'] And The Mushroom Kingdom treaty that ties you to DH. And VE treaty that ties you to PB. And the IRON treaty that ties you to Duckroll. So that's a direct tie to two of the largest blocs, plus the DH non-bloc bloc. [/quote] Ah, yes. DH, the bloc that is not a bloc. And the VE treaty, which has a defense clause that is optional. So make that one bloc, Duckroll (which, if we wish to be technical, is also not an MDP bloc). Good try, chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I think his point was that you carry treaties to several major "groups of alliances agreed to mutually defend each other". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHavok Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315386290' post='2796236'] Ah, yes. DH, the bloc that is not a bloc. And the VE treaty, which has a defense clause that is optional. So make that one bloc, Duckroll (which, if we wish to be technical, is also not an MDP bloc). Good try, chap. [/quote] Be careful to not pull a muscle reaching for that excuse Just be honest about your ties and your need to jump on the side in power and stop being a liar and a fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1315386088' post='2796235'] And the IRON treaty that ties you to Duckroll. [/quote] How does a four-year-old treaty that has been invoked on the losing side of a war before represent an attempt to tie oneself to hegemonic superpowers. Bonus idiocy: I'd imagine that it also would have been invoked on what looked like it would be the losing side of a war [i]to defend your alliance[/i] had WWE not fizzled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315374743' post='2796189'] You've got us. The Gramlins, OMFG, BN and Argent are definitely the leading hegomonic superpowers. [/quote] Damn it TOP, you're ruining the game again. Hegemonic. (IT FEELS ALL TINGLY ON MY TONGUE!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Gen Lee' timestamp='1315377649' post='2796205'] This is incredibly rich in the irony department. a. that you would now support "roguery" but mostly... b. that YOU of all people would preach about alliances being too scared to make any meaningful moves in the game and creating boredom. TOP under your direction is the definition of inaction, always sitting on the fence until the last moment and picking off the scraps. [/quote] That's like a real cool story, dawg. Mind telling us the one when you rogue us and have to pay reps? You just have a much better way with putting things than I. Also, I'm glad people are starting to pay notice to my sig and see through our ulterior motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Believland' timestamp='1315397490' post='2796271'] That's like a real cool story, dawg. Mind telling us the one when you rogue us and have to pay reps? You just have a much better way with putting things than I. Also, I'm glad people are starting to pay notice to my sig and see through our ulterior motives. [/quote] Oh we've had our eyes on you for quite some time. We know what you're trying to do. You're basically the new NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1315362628' post='2796109'] Also, I have no idea what your post means Haf. But even if what you were doing was your attempt at "razzing" it doesn't make it funny. It was a pitiful attempt at humor. If that's what you were truly trying to do, I feel bad for you. You'll be in the prayers of all the people of the Musik Mafia. [/quote] A joke is never funny until a good straight man comes along. Your posts made me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1315392907' post='2796252'] How does a four-year-old treaty that has been invoked on the losing side of a war before represent an attempt to tie oneself to hegemonic superpowers. Bonus idiocy: I'd imagine that it also would have been invoked on what looked like it would be the losing side of a war [i]to defend your alliance[/i] had WWE not fizzled out. [/quote] When and how it's been wielded in the past doesn't make the tie into one of the previously stated 'power-groups' any less written. Though personally, I don't see them as a hegemonic group. Tyrannical, perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1315380188' post='2796223'] I for one embrace our Argent overlords. (It's about time Janax.) [/quote] Dance, my pretty puppets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Chill I Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Leave it to crymson to turn a fun thread into an annoying and repetitive read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1315392907' post='2796252'] How does a four-year-old treaty that has been invoked on the losing side of a war before represent an attempt to tie oneself to hegemonic superpowers. Bonus idiocy: I'd imagine that it also would have been invoked on what looked like it would be the losing side of a war [i]to defend your alliance[/i] had WWE not fizzled out. [/quote] Regardless of age, the obligations to Duckroll via IRON, along with the obligations to the DH/PB conglomerate via MK, still nullify the original claim: [quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1315339232' post='2795920'] [quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1315338260' post='2795917'] [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315328890' post='2795877'] Will YOUR alliances take action to reduce the strangling deadlock so markedly in existence? I doubt it. [/quote] Will yours? [/quote] Ours did. We're not the ones cockblocking the entire Cyberverse with dozens of treaties overlapping three or four blocs. We have been in that position in the past, however. [/quote] Hint: You're still in that position. You didn't do anything except contribute to stagnation and contribute to aggressive curbstomps without cause and to the subsequent massive levels of extortion. It infuriates me that you would have the sheer audacity to pretend that you are somehow actively working against the problem that you are a significant part of. The problem that TOP has [i]always[/i] found a way to be a part of, with few fleeting exceptions in your entire history. Edited September 7, 2011 by HeroofTime55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuz Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315328890' post='2795877'] Whereas roguery was years ago treated with disgust by target and former alliance alike, now it is understandable. And those who would decry it would do well to look to their own alliances` actions in considering why current affairs are so boring as to drive longtime players to take their own individual initiative in this manner. Will YOUR alliances take action to reduce the strangling deadlock so markedly in existence? I doubt it. [/quote] Quite often a rogue is hated because they threaten the security of the alliance they're in.. most rogues just hit any random target, often one their alliance doesn't like. Plus, it's a massive waste of whatever aid was used to build them up, many of them sit in an alliance for protection to get nukes, just to waste them and threaten the security of their own alliance in the end. When a "rogue" actually benefits the alliance's goals, you'd expect them to be cheered on, as long as that cheering doesn't threaten their own alliance. I find it more honest than when someone cheers on a rogue in private, then goes out in public and cries out on how horrible that rogue is. There's also a big difference between someone who hits a random person because they have nothing to lose personally, and someone who hits an enemy to try to punish that person for their actions. It's not 'classy', but sometimes, people just throw aside class to encourage a certain kind of behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I find myself amused at the attempts of several lowlifes to appear here intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimos Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I personally cannot support this roguish behavior, even if the target is GOD or that it generates amusement to some in the OWF forums. I am rooting for GOD on this one. Goodluck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I think one of the more amusing things about this rogue-fest is that a few people have managed to actually join up with OP and cause a little damage to GOD. Do you think OP will last until the rest of CN comes in to liberate them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHavok Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1315413936' post='2796374'] I find myself amused at the attempts of several lowlifes to appear here intelligent. [/quote] Almost as amusing as your attempt to denigrate and strawmsn the argument rather than use facts. Apparently your boot licking of MK has rubbed off on you guys you fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valtamdraugr Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1315414607' post='2796380'] Do you think OP will last until the rest of CN comes in to liberate them? [/quote] I'm sure they will be fine. Either way, the rogue actions succeed in burning assets that will be needed come winter. edit: How many more new apps will they need to lift their "rogue" status? Edited September 7, 2011 by Valtamdraugr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian0fnewbs Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='MrHavok' timestamp='1315414850' post='2796381'] Almost as amusing as your attempt to denigrate and strawmsn the argument rather than use facts. Apparently your boot licking of MK has rubbed off on you guys you fraud [/quote] MCXA talking about boot licking, well that's ironic. I for one embrace our new MK and Argent overlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1315413495' post='2796370'] Regardless of age, the obligations to Duckroll via IRON, along with the obligations to the DH/PB conglomerate via MK, still nullify the original claim: Hint: You're still in that position. You didn't do anything except contribute to stagnation and contribute to aggressive curbstomps without cause and to the subsequent massive levels of extortion. It infuriates me that you would have the sheer audacity to pretend that you are somehow actively working against the problem that you are a significant part of. The problem that TOP has [i]always[/i] found a way to be a part of, with few fleeting exceptions in your entire history. [/quote] Damn, HoT. How did you know about our secret MDAPs with Umbrella, VE, Sparta and everyone else? I thought we hid that better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Guardian0fnewbs' timestamp='1315415170' post='2796383'] MCXA talking about boot licking, well that's ironic. [/quote] Say what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='Believland' timestamp='1315416200' post='2796390'] Damn, HoT. How did you know about our secret MDAPs with Umbrella, VE, Sparta and everyone else? I thought we hid that better. [/quote] Is this an act or are you genuinely this stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1315417038' post='2796395'] Say what? [/quote] I think he's implying you are a boot licker. Personally I would not stand for that type of popcockery or horseradishery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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