Varianz Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1313268186' post='2779869'] See, normally in the planning channel I would look at this treaty and be like "alright, we'll just avoid NoR's defense clauses then ". But then I remembered that MK now has the option to directly defend anyone in MJ....so really it doesn't who is hit now (I guess I should have seen that coming considering XX has the exact same clause). Finding a counter solution to this will be most challenging. Well played. [/quote] You're talking about an alliance that has demonstrated that [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97693"]it isn't particularly concerned about the niceties of traditional war declarations and maneuvering. [/url] If they wanted in on a hypothetical MJ war, do you really think they'd need a treaty? Stop being so narrow minded and stuck in 2008 CN. Also what WorldConqueror said about laughing at you trying to sound like a tactical genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1313268545' post='2779877'] All I'm confused about is why you bothered signing that ODP. If your objective was to create a binding tie, then why not just go straight for this in the first place? I can't believe that anything significant has changed between the two treaties. That said, you're both furthering your political agendas by signing this, and you know what you're signing up for, so congratulations on a successful piece of politics on both sides. [/quote] We could have not signed the ODP originally and waited until now to sign and MDoAP I suppose, but I don't see the benefit of that over signing the ODP originally. The past 6 weeks or so have largely been increasing member-member communication as well as getting our allies' opinions on an MDP+ relationship. Edited August 13, 2011 by Drai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xR1 Fatal Instinct Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Congrats to our allies in NoR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Congrats Guys!! Guess We'd better upgrade with NoR too - Can't let MK have all the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ozujsko Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Congratulations to our brothers in Nordreich and our good friends in the Mushroom Kingdom! o/ Love always, DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Glad to see that our FA team managed to trick Nordreich into doing our bidding once again [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1313268683' post='2779882'] Look at me, I'm playing politics Mum! It's pretty funny to see you constantly and transparently trying to paint yourself as a brilliant political strategist and military tactician, equal to anything the other side can throw at you. Repetition is the key, right? [/quote] He knows his !@#$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Zak Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Congrats guys! Love the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1313268683' post='2779882'] Look at me, I'm playing politics Mum! It's pretty funny to see you constantly and transparently trying to paint yourself as a brilliant political strategist and military tactician, equal to anything the other side can throw at you. Repetition is the key, right? [/quote] I'm not a tactical genius, but I've worked with MK on every single war since Karma. They know how I work, and I know how they work. I'm not brilliant, I'm just saying that considering that both Sparta and MK both now have "friends of friends" clauses to work with, and we both aren't opposed to jumping in to fronts without direct chains anyway, that this war will be interesting to plan against one another. I'm not sure why you are so hostile about it, but it's the truth. Hell, I've already talked to them on multiple occassions about it and we've both expressed both dissapointment and excitement at the prospect of facing one another. For once we get to plan agianst an actual challenge, which the likes of NSO has never provided. Edited August 13, 2011 by Hyperion321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 That's one hell of a non-aggression clause. Congrats to both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1313269516' post='2779899'] The fact that NoR played off the wording shows how concerned they are. Ardus wants a world where his alliance is able to defend themselves against any possible threats, he is a bad person. [/quote] I believe if you will listen to the CN talkshow Ardus said he believes Bob is on it's last legs and he is trying everything he can possibly get away with just to see how far he can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I wholeheartedly approve of this treaty. This is a fine bond between 2 fine alliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Awesome lookin treaty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2burnt2eat Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1313270666' post='2779925'] I'm not a tactical genius, but I've worked with MK on every single war since Karma. They know how I work, and I know how they work. I'm not brilliant, I'm just saying that considering that both Sparta and MK both now have "friends of friends" clauses to work with, and we both aren't opposed to jumping in to fronts without direct chains anyway, that this war will be interesting to plan against one another. I'm not sure why you are so hostile about it, but it's the truth. Hell, I've already talked to them on multiple occassions about it and we've both expressed both dissapointment and excitement at the prospect of facing one another. For once we get to plan agianst an actual challenge, which the likes of NSO has never provided. [/quote] People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm honored to have played a small part in bringing our alliances together. o/ MK o/ NoR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 This is a great thing to see, my congratulations to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabloz Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 This is sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Mockingbird Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 My friends feel it's their appointed duty They keep trying to tell me all you want to do is use me But my answer yeah to all that use me stuff Is I wanna spread the news that if it feels this good getting used Oh you just keep on using me until you use me up Until you use me up~~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Well done Ardus. Well done. NoR, I'll laugh when you realize what a mistake you've just made. Should take awhile, but the time will come. o/ MK for being brilliant Edited August 13, 2011 by Ryan Greenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1313271783' post='2779948'] Well done Ardus. Well done. NoR, I'll laugh when you realize what a mistake you've just made. Should take awhile, but the time will come. o/ MK for being brilliant [/quote] You know no irony, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Expected this to happen. I guess I will say good luck to both parties. Hasta la vista SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1313271783' post='2779948'] Well done Ardus. Well done. NoR, I'll laugh when you realize what a mistake you've just made. Should take awhile, but the time will come. o/ MK for being brilliant [/quote] I tremble with fear, because I see what a master-strategist you are. http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?search=468381&Extended=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1313270666' post='2779925'] I'm not sure why you are so hostile about it, but it's the truth. Hell, I've already talked to them on multiple occassions about it and we've both expressed both dissapointment and excitement at the prospect of facing one another. For once we get to plan agianst an actual challenge, which the likes of NSO has never provided. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]For an alliance not worth your time you sure do focus a lot of your attention on us. Anyway, congratulations to MK and NoR. Two fine alliances.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) I half expected this announcement to have been some half-assed travesty made by the niggardly members of Mushreich but alas, I misjudged. Well played, us. Well played. Edited August 13, 2011 by tamerlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1313272763' post='2779956'] [color="#0000FF"]For an alliance not worth your time you sure do focus a lot of your attention on us. Anyway, congratulations to MK and NoR. Two fine alliances.[/color] [/quote] For a guy that doesn't give a crap about us, WC sure likes to take shots at every post I make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Excellent. Congrats to you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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