King Louis the II Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Cynic' timestamp='1312208689' post='2769096'] Can we be friends again, Fark and NG? Hugs and Kisses, Cynic [/quote] Actually, if you have accomplished something was to increase the cordiality between Fark and NG. Both alliances acted as gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1312290193' post='2770008'] Actually, if you have accomplished something was to increase the cordiality between Fark and NG. Both alliances acted as gentlemen. [/quote] Unpossible! This is a conspiracy! Haflinger said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladius Dreadfire Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1312290088' post='2770005'] So what i got from this whole thread is: [list] [*]Cynic's a whistleblower who happens to be a tiny nation and easy to give retribution. [*]X-NV-X the MoD of NG was doing the spying has a large nation and 11k tech and if they tried giving punishment would probably rip them a new arsehole. [*]Cynic is treated as the spy. [*]X-NV-X gets sacked from goverment? doesnt have to pay reps? doesnt get kicked from the alliance? [/list] So i can see where Cynic is coming from when the person who spied got a slap on the wrist... So either scared little kiddys to not give him more than a slap on the wrist or support the use of spy attacks within your alliance? [/quote] I was middle of the line earlier in the argument but I gotta say, this man talks real sense. Cynic gets the harsh treatment just for spotting and revealing this spying job, but the perpetrator gets off with nothing more than a telling off? Shouldn't this be be the other way around? By all means, inform me if I'm missing something, but it doesn't look pretty on NG's behalf right now. If Non Grata condones spying, just let us all know now rather than having us guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Great Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='berbers' timestamp='1312279243' post='2769960'] Everything makes sense in this thread, the butthurt, the log dropping and call outs, typical OWF asshatery. Except one thing that bothers me, the guy who actually spied seems to be still in NG and doing fine....are there actually any repurcussions or did he get off scott free? It doesn't bother me, but I thought spying usually involved a beatdown and/or reps. [/quote] [quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1312290088' post='2770005'] So what i got from this whole thread is: [list] [*]Cynic's a whistleblower who happens to be a tiny nation and easy to give retribution. [*]X-NV-X the MoD of NG was doing the spying has a large nation and 11k tech and if they tried giving punishment would probably rip them a new arsehole. [*]Cynic is treated as the spy. [*]X-NV-X gets sacked from goverment? doesnt have to pay reps? doesnt get kicked from the alliance? [/list] So i can see where Cynic is coming from when the person who spied got a slap on the wrist... So either scared little kiddys to not give him more than a slap on the wrist or support the use of spy attacks within your alliance? [/quote] So if I get this right. Seems as if NG is pissed off because they are seen to condone spying? And FARK didn't do anything about it...so draw what you will there. Not as if I care a rat's ass but would like to know for future reference if needed. And in the end you are both just mad because he is airing dirty laundry in public. actually I guess I dont blame you for pounding him...no one here looks good. Thank you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1312253678' post='2769693'] Good to see things resolved? I guess? [/quote] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. Edited August 2, 2011 by Crymson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] [i]Finally[/i] something popcorn worthy in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1312300653' post='2770103'] [i]Finally[/i] something popcorn worthy in this thread. [/quote] I agree with this. I wonder what Xiphosis could possibly have been hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] But at the end of the day his attempts at casting war charms and other sorts of spells were for naught. Next time buy the wand with the phoenix core feather, Xiphosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue.[/quote] There was a valid CB in play, what did you expect? Restraint? Mind you, I think it's too bad he didn't convince them it was the right war to fight... [quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1312253988' post='2769703'] Not your fault, he decided to make an internal matter no one cares about into a public matter that nobody cares about. On the plus side with this you can do whatever you want with him and most people will say he asked for it.[/quote] We crossed over the line somewhere on page 4 or 5 of this. I *could* have gave a damn once, but now...not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] I wonder when Non Grata will ZI him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 If Xiph wants a war then let him start one. CB's are for babbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I'm all for trying to start a war but don't try and use issues that have already been honestly resolved. Start something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Goby Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Highway to the danger zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] Gosh, that doesn't sound like something he would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabloz Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 You guys are missing the point of why Cynic has been punished.. Its not the FARK thing the biggest problem.. Its trying to sabotage a treaty and dumping logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladius Dreadfire Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Diabloz' timestamp='1312306184' post='2770168'] You guys are missing the point of why Cynic has been punished.. Its not the FARK thing the biggest problem.. Its trying to sabotage a treaty and dumping logs. [/quote] Actually... The Fark thing [b]is[/b] the biggest problem, given that there have been extremely few times in the history of Bob when an alliance has taken a spy attack lying down. They haven't even punished the actual offender for $%&@ sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabloz Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Vladius Dreadfire' timestamp='1312309395' post='2770190'] Actually... The Fark thing [b]is[/b] the biggest problem, given that there have been extremely few times in the history of Bob when an alliance has taken a spy attack lying down. They haven't even punished the actual offender for $%&@ sake. [/quote] Thing is the offender has been punished, it was a mistake..and FARK understood that. I don't see why its bothering you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] Actually shouldn't we thank him? I'd love to see someone in SF/XX hit PB directly. It would make PB's decision much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy George Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Diabloz' timestamp='1312309891' post='2770201'] Thing is the offender has been punished, it was a mistake..and FARK understood that. I don't see why its bothering you? [/quote] I can answer that one for you. He's from NPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1312300040' post='2770096'] No thanks to Xiphosis, who genuinely attempted to convince FARK into starting a war over the issue. [/quote] Thank you for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladius Dreadfire Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Diabloz' timestamp='1312309891' post='2770201'] Thing is the offender has been punished, it was a mistake..and FARK understood that. I don't see why its bothering you? [/quote] Kicking him out of government was punishment enough for committing what is essentially an act of war? No reps? No limited warfare ops? Give me a break here. Why the hell did the dumb !@#$ do it in the first place, can anyone tell me that? What's bothering me is that Cynic, the guy who spotted and rightfully exposed this travesty, is now on the recieving end of a ZI order, whereas the person who committed the actual offence is being let off with such a lenient punishment it's not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity111 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Vladius Dreadfire' timestamp='1312311717' post='2770229'] Kicking him out of government was punishment enough for committing what is essentially an act of war? No reps? No limited warfare ops? Give me a break here. Why the hell did the dumb !@#$ do it in the first place, can anyone tell me that? What's bothering me is that Cynic, the guy who spotted and rightfully exposed this travesty, is now on the recieving end of a ZI order, whereas the person who committed the actual offence is being let off with such a lenient punishment it's not even funny. [/quote] Cynic is receiving ZI for something else <_> check timestamps on this post and on the wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladius Dreadfire Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 [quote name='Mixer' timestamp='1312310280' post='2770207'] I can answer that one for you. He's from NPO. [/quote] My being a Pacifican has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I believe in full and fair justice. What I see here is far from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Cynic was as guilty as Fear- was for the spy op on FARK. If you read them logs you will know. And even besides that, he did more than that, that would constitute a ZI alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Vladius Dreadfire' timestamp='1312311717' post='2770229'] What's bothering me is that Cynic, the guy who spotted and rightfully exposed this travesty, is now on the recieving end of a ZI order, whereas the person who committed the actual offence is being let off with such a lenient punishment it's not even funny. [/quote] Non Grata gov approached FARK before Cynic 'exposed' it. The situation was handled privately between FARK and NG gov. This entire topic has no point, other than an attempt at smearing our image and feeding Cynic's attention. Fear's punishment has been set, and since FARK chose not to pursue anything more over something as trivial as a "gather intel" operation we can all move on. EDIT: "trivial" as in not much to start a war over. Thought I should clarify that. I'm sure half of you will disagree though. Edited August 2, 2011 by Zoomzoomzoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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