Michael McBride Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 OOC: Don't really have a ton of internet access (up at my uncle's camp for the July 4th weekend) so I figured I would simply address both current issues on the continent in one thread. IC: [center][font="Palatino Linotype"][size="5"][b]Official Imperial Statement[/b][/size][/font][/center] [center]In regards to the two recent national collapses on the North American continent.[/center] On the subject of the collapse of Cascadia: we are deeply saddened that this stalwart of the northwest has fallen into anarchy and despair. In regards to the current land dispute: it is true that I was present with both the former Empress of Austria and August Imperator Jia of the United Federation of the East and affixed my signature to a document guaranteeing the sovereignty of the Austrian Commonwealth in the Pacific Northwest. Cascadia was a member of the Austrian Commonwealth, therefore it is our belief that the land turning into an Austrian Protectorate does not violate the tenets set forth by the American Treaty Organization as there is no gain of land by a foreign power as the land was always, technically, Austria's. I implore our ATO brethren to work with the Austrians and Chinese to stabilize the area, but to allow the Austrians and Chinese to take the lead. Perhaps at a later date, when Austria's current crisis is over, there can be a meeting concerning the transfer of the Austrian Protectorate to ATO hands, but that should take place at a later time. Today is not the day for that. On the subject of the collapse of the Commonwealth of Canada: we are not saddened by the loss of the Commonwealth. They were an aggressive, greedy nation, unfit for our continent. In regards to the current land dispute surrounding it: the land falls under the Harland Haiku and shall be treated as such. It is an Imperial Protectorate. We ask that all nations that are not a part of the ATO vacate the area within the next 24 hours. Failure to do so will be seen as an aggressive act of war on an Imperial Protectorate, which under the Dobbs Doctrine, is an act of war on the Empire herself. Due to our current obligations in pacifying Ohio, we ask our ATO treaty brethren for assistance in driving out the CAN forces and stabilizing the former Commonwealth. Signed, [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/That_Bum/thomasatkinsonasgeirsson.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 "The Empire has Austria's sincerest thanks in being a voice of reason and allowing us to administer our region to the best of Imperial ability. I can assure both Pravus Inguro and the North American Community that Austria has always tried to conduct positive relations with our neighbors across the Atlantic and this even is no different. We welcome assistance by the American Treaty Organization as well as the chance to build a friendship with those nations. All we as now however is for Ursalian troops to withdraw from the Austrian protectorate so that our army may begin to garrison key cities and positions. After time has passed and pacification is achieved if additional help is needed, we will extend our hands to our neighbors. But once again, Pravus Inguro has Austria's eternal thanks and eternal friendship. You are one of our most trusted allies." -Empress Maria Theresia II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shan Revan Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Le Royaume de la Lumière applauds you on your sensible and well thought out policies. If only more nations of the world were as far seeing as yours and not blinded by greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Official Statement from the Foreign Ministry: "Given the announcement from the Empire of Pravus Ingruo, and after reflecting on our actions, the Holy Empire of Ursalia extends an official apology to Austria, and will retract it's earlier proclamation of a protectorate. We admit that we may have been heavy-handed in our statements and actions. As such, we will withdraw our troops, starting immediately." Actions: Army troopers that had entered the area--and in fact which had occupied the city of Seattle--began withdrawing. Hours later, they would be gone, back home in the Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 "The Corporate Republic is glad that Pravus Ingruo once more shows itself to be one of the most reasonable nations on the North American continent. The Your allies should take you as an example of a well-led nation and strive towards similar quality." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 The United Federation of the East thanks the Pravus Ingruo Emperor for honoring his pact as we expected him to do. He has acted with the most honorable intentions. That said... We must find fault with the way that Ursalia conducted itself, and must question our future relationship. Despite Ursalia holding an alliance with the UFE it chose to treat our treaty with hostility, especially simply not believing the very things it now accepts as fact from Pravus Ingruo. This will not be so easily glossed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShammySocialist Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 "We are glad to see that the Empire of Pravus Ingruo affirms what the Federation has been saying during this situation all along. It is our sincere hope that some of the other members of this organization act in a much more calm and calculating in the future in handling such disputes as these. The Cajun Federation reaffirms its recognition of Austrian sovereignty in the former lands of Cascadia, and we would gladly be of assistance with any humanitarian aid should it be needed. As for the situation in the former Commonwealth of Canada, the Federation stands behind the Empire of Pravus Ingruo and will support its' claim to these lands." [b]Secure Transmission to the Empire of Pravus Ingruo[/b] [quote]"In accordance with your calls for support in the former Commonwealth of Canada, we shall begin a forward deployment of forces to St. Johns, Newfoundland and Goose Bay, Labrador to enforce the claim made by the Empire of Pravus Ingruo. This will include elements of the Cajun Federation Air and Land Forces, which will make the transit using the airspace of Pravus Ingruo, if such a move is allowed."[/quote] [b]Classified[/b] With the call for assistance made by the Empire of Pravus Ingruo, the Cajun Federation's Armed Forces leaped into action from an already heightened alert status. Fighter aircraft from the 1st Fighter Group were assigned to escort support aircraft into the region, while the CFAF put its Air Transport Command into action, as well as aircraft from its auxiliary wings. Two whole fighter squadrons would be assigned to fly ahead of the air convoy by an hour, and would serve as the vanguard for the force. Supporting the fighter aircraft would be a token force of AWACS and JSTARS aircraft, which would fly ahead of the convoy until off Nova Scotia, where the aircraft would linger and provide over watch ahead of the transit to the region. Air-to-air refueling aircraft would be relayed up the East Coast of North America to provide airborne refueling points for the coming fleet of aircraft, as well. As for ground forces, the Air Transport Command would be tasked with transporting two Regiments of the 4th Airborne Infantry Brigade to St. Johns, where an operational headquarters would be established for the force, while the brigades' third regiment would be forward deployed to Goose Bay. Flying with the 4th Airborne Infantry Brigade would be forward operating expeditionary force staff and command and control assets, as well as ground maintenance staff for CFAF Aircraft, ground security personnel, and other assets. Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, Group 62, would also be forward deployed to Goose Bay, along with a platoon from the elite 257th Air Force Rescue Group in case of aircraft malfunctions. A few C-5M aircraft would transport in three HH-53E Heavy Assault Helicopters to Goose Bay, for any special operations that required the use of rotary aircraft in the area. Additional support would be forthcoming, but the 4th Airborne Infantry was to be the vanguard for any further deployments, and its arrival would easily put over twelve thousand men on the ground in the area when its deployment was complete. Within twelve hours of the request by Pravus Ingruo for ATO support, the first air transports would be in the air and flying towards their destinations, with F-22 Fighter Aircraft already well on their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1309633284' post='2747042'] OOC: Don't really have a ton of internet access (up at my uncle's camp for the July 4th weekend) so I figured I would simply address both current issues on the continent in one thread. IC: [center][font="Palatino Linotype"][size="5"][b]Official Imperial Statement[/b][/size][/font][/center] [center]In regards to the two recent national collapses on the North American continent.[/center] ... On the subject of the collapse of the Commonwealth of Canada: we are not saddened by the loss of the Commonwealth. They were an aggressive, greedy nation, unfit for our continent. In regards to the current land dispute surrounding it: the land falls under the Harland Haiku and shall be treated as such. It is an Imperial Protectorate. We ask that all nations that are not a part of the ATO vacate the area within the next 24 hours. Failure to do so will be seen as an aggressive act of war on an Imperial Protectorate, which under the Dobbs Doctrine, is an act of war on the Empire herself. Due to our current obligations in pacifying Ohio, we ask our ATO treaty brethren for assistance in driving out the CAN forces and stabilizing the former Commonwealth. Signed, [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/That_Bum/thomasatkinsonasgeirsson.png[/img] [/quote] We adamantly reject any ultimatum issued by the Empire of Pravus Ingruo and are saddened that it's bullheadedness and short-sightedness puts the tenuous peace established in North America in peril once more. We had hoped that the American Trade Organization would prove to be a stabilizing force in the Americas but this action highlights that this is unfortunately not the case. Pravus Ingruo, and by extension the American Trade Organization, does not have a legitimate claim to many of the lands of the former Commonwealth of Canada. Greenland has acknowledged that in regions such as Labrador, Newfoundland, and St. Pierre and Miquelon the Harland Haiku had been previously instated and in the hopes of finding a diplomatic solution we were willing to work with the A.T.O on a mutually amicable solution that would take this into account. However, Pravus Ingruo has brashly decided to claim all of the former lands of the Commonwealth of Canada when it has no right or previous claim in doing so. Why does Greenland, and by extension the Confederation of Arctic Nations, have a legitimate claim to stabilizing the northern Arctic Islands? Ellesmere Island and the outlying islands were in fact recently part of Greenland and over ninety percent of the settlers are Greenlandic in origin. These people are brothers to to the people of Greenland. The C.A.N maintained one of the longest lasting protectorates over these very same islands years ago and performed admirably, allowing many new nations to take rise when the opportunities arose. With a long history of protecting these same peoples as well as our close cultural and geographical ties, it makes sense that the Confederation of Arctic Nations undertake the securing and stabilizing of this region in the Americas. Pravus Ingruo, and many of the nation in the ATO, share no such claim. Pravus Ingruo is hundreds of kilometers from these people, and the Holy American Empire thousands. You have never interacted previously, except to call these people "an aggressive, greedy nation, unfit for our continent." Excuse me if I don't believe you would make the best protectors for this region, and your lack of any valid claim to the region makes Greenland vehemently protest any Pravus Ingruo influence in these areas. If anything, your should be happy that the Confederation of Arctic Nations is willing to care for such remote and barren lands. I believe that a third of the A.T.O is composed of C.A.N members and this seemed like an excellent opportunity for the two to have worked together. You have squandered this opportunity by alienating nations such as Greenland which was willing to sit a conference and work out a solution, as equals. For you see, we will not be treated like subservient dogs and given ultimatums, especially from the likes of Pravus Ingruo. Our nation is more technologically advanced than yours, our nation has more developed infrastructure than yours, and our nation has a larger military than yours, yet you do not see us trying to lay claim to California or Florida through arm-twisting and brutish scare tactics. To the rest of the A.T.O, we ask you to examine your allegiance to this organization, particularly with Pravus Ingruo. It seems PI uses the A.T.O simply as the strength to back up its outlandish claims. It has sidestepped problematic issues, right or wrong, and has stated its willingness to use force against other North American nations trying to protect a fallen nation through a valid claim. Attacking North American nations to claim more land is not in the A.T.O's mission statement or charter, and we ask each member nation to reflect on the priorities of this bloc and whether they are to support the interests of Pravus Ingruo or the North American continent. We have received reports that Texas has left the treaty after apparently finding the answer to the above question different from what they were expecting when they joined the pact. We remind everyone that the Confederation of Arctic Nations is dedicated to peace and I know that at least one member, Greenland, is willing to work with any American nation to ensure a peaceful and prosperous continent, without preconditions. As such, and with the the breakdown of diplomatic talks in Dallas, Greenland formally rejects any supposed notion of an ultimatum and instead states that any former land north of the Commonwealth of Canada will be a C.A.N. protectorate. Additionally, with cultural and historical ties to Quebec, we suggest that Pravus Ingruo confer with the Reqpublique du Quebec on stewardship over Labrador and Newfoundland. I ask that the C.A.N. make a unified stand against the aggression of the Empire of Pravus Ingruo. Troops are currently being ordered to continue airlift operation onto the Arctic islands north of Labrador. We will be hosting a diplomatic summit in Egedesminde, all nations involved are invited to attend. All diplomats will be granted safe passage and will not be harmed should hostilities break out. [i]Kristjan Vilhjálmsson Greenland Minister of Foreign Affairs[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 "The Empire has once again shown it to be a responsible power by recognizing the Austrian Commonwealth for what it is. While fully expected they still have our respect and support for making the right call. As for the issues in regards to the Commonwealth of Canada, we recognize both parties to have a claim in the matter. Pravus Ingruo over a large part through doctrines, Greenland due to its relations with the former nation, it is our hope both parties can come to a mutually beneficial arrangement" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 It is unfortunate that the government of Greenland has such a dim view of history. We have no interaction with the former Commonwealth? How about the time they tried to take over Nova Scotia? Or the second time they tried to take over Nova Scotia? We apologize that our interactions with the Commonwealth were largely negative, when they attempted to land-grab in mostly back door and underhanded ways, but that is no fault of ours. Frankly, we wonder how such a nation was ever even allowed in an organization such as CAN. Further, a reference to a nation is not a judgement to a people, but rather the government. Their government was greedy, aggressive, and unfit for North America. This is not an opinion, this is an undeniable fact backed up by repeated instances of history. Should the government of Greenland choose to ignore these instances simply because they wish to put themselves in a more advantageous position to claim the land, that is their fault and theirs alone. The world will see history for what it really is, even if you will not. In terms of the current land dispute, the Empire rescinds their claims to all former land of the Commonwealth north of Newfoundland and Labrador. However, all land south of Newfoundland and Labrador, including St. Pierre et Miquelon is covered by the Harland Haiku and will be treated as such. Any incursion into those lands will be treated as an act of war. Finally, to measure a nation based on their technological prowess and level of infrastructural development alone is a grave mistake. For a generation, the Empire has maintained peace and prosperity across a continent. Nearly a dozen nations owe their very existence to our steady hand of leadership. You may have all the technological prowess and infrastructure in the world, but without the brains and political knowledge behind it, you may as well be a backwater nation with biplanes for an airforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 New Spain applauds The Empire for reaffirming it's support of the Austrian commonwealth and ensuring Cascadia remains in Austria's stewardship. However we find The Empires conduct regarding the former Commonwealth of Canada to be deplorable at best given their central position in American affairs as the head state of the A.T.O. We fully hoped that as the head of the A.T.O the Empire would be more receptive towards peaceful resolutions when dealing with their neighbors in the Americas and not issue blanket ultimatums with a threat of violence backed by the assembled powers of the American Treaty Organization. Although this situation has not escalated any further and the current positions of both the Empire and Greenland would seem to be heading towards a peaceful resolution and concession of the Empires previous claims. We are nonetheless disappointed with the fruitless displays of power and corruption of principle purpose by the A.T.O...we were present for it's formation and it certainly wasn't intended to bring war in the Americas by serving as a tool for the Empires claims, nor any other member nation seeking to use it as a tool for gaining American lands. This was a primary fear we held with it's formation and in large-part a reason we did not sign onto it as a member state. Sadly, it would seem this fear has been realized by this incident. With that said, we hold hope the A.T.O may redeem itself from this incident in our eyes and the eyes of other American powers as a beacon of peace and reasoning. [b]Signed for the Kingdom of New Spain[/b] [i]King Enrique Bourbon I[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShammySocialist Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 "The Cajun Federation would gladly attend these negotiations with Greenland as a concerned party of the North American continent, if Greenland would like to pursue further diplomatic engagement to see this situation out to the end. I feel that, at the current state, this flash of tension has left a sour taste in the mouths of many statesmen in North America, and it would be beneficial to smooth these things over so that this situation is considered buried for good. For the sake of continuity, I believe that such talks would end with a much more positive feeling then the still-tense atmosphere this standoff has produced. We will gladly dispatch our own delegate to the ATO, the Marquis de Lafayette, to this summit, should it proceed." [i]HRH, The Prince of Acadia[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted July 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1309652398' post='2747218'] New Spain applauds The Empire for reaffirming it's support of the Austrian commonwealth and ensuring Cascadia remains in Austria's stewardship. However we find The Empires conduct regarding the former Commonwealth of Canada to be deplorable at best given their central position in American affairs as the head state of the A.T.O. We fully hoped that as the head of the A.T.O the Empire would be more receptive towards peaceful resolutions when dealing with their neighbors in the Americas and not issue blanket ultimatums with a threat of violence backed by the assembled powers of the American Treaty Organization. Although this situation has not escalated any further and the current positions of both the Empire and Greenland would seem to be heading towards a peaceful resolution and concession of the Empires previous claims. We are nonetheless disappointed with the fruitless displays of power and corruption of principle purpose by the A.T.O...we were present for it's formation and it certainly wasn't intended to bring war in the Americas by serving as a tool for the Empires claims, nor any other member nation seeking to use it as a tool for gaining American lands. This was a primary fear we held with it's formation and in large-part a reason we did not sign onto it as a member state. Sadly, it would seem this fear has been realized by this incident. With that said, we hold hope the A.T.O may redeem itself from this incident in our eyes and the eyes of other American powers as a beacon of peace and reasoning. [b]Signed for the Kingdom of New Spain[/b] [i]King Enrique Bourbon I[/i] [/quote] Then you are blind. We asked of the ATO what we would have asked of any ally: that they help us enforce what is rightfully ours. We could have asked the Austrians to help, but they are a little busy at the moment. We could have asked the Chinese, but it would have been a logistical nightmare for them. So we chose to ask our allies that were the closest and could most easily help us. To read anymore into it than that is simply asinine. Labrador, Newfoundland, and Miquelon are covered under the Harland Haiku, which takes effect the moment a nation falls, before anything else. That Harland Haiku was around before CAN, and it will outlast CAN. It was around before the ATO, and will outlast the ATO. Your problems with the ATO were not based in fact. You continually bastardized the purpose of the ATO, and rejected every rational explanation given to you. You chose not to sign because you never intended to sign, not for any reason with the treaty itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 "Putting all the bickering to the wayside for a moment, Legion wishes to express its support for the locals of the area. Donations will be made to the White Cross in their name. May Allah protect them in their time of need. Now, you may get back to your regular schedule of diplomatic feuding." -Denard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1309652910' post='2747222'] Then you are blind. We asked of the ATO what we would have asked of any ally: that they help us enforce what is rightfully ours. We could have asked the Austrians to help, but they are a little busy at the moment. We could have asked the Chinese, but it would have been a logistical nightmare for them. So we chose to ask our allies that were the closest and could most easily help us. To read anymore into it than that is simply asinine. Labrador, Newfoundland, and Miquelon are covered under the Harland Haiku, which takes effect the moment a nation falls, before anything else. That Harland Haiku was around before CAN, and it will outlast CAN. It was around before the ATO, and will outlast the ATO. Your problems with the ATO were not based in fact. You continually bastardized the purpose of the ATO, and rejected every rational explanation given to you. You chose not to sign because you never intended to sign, not for any reason with the treaty itself. [/quote] We do not fault you for seeking to claim lands under your assortment of doctrines...Rather we fault you for needlessly threatening military action to enforce these claims on the Former Commonwealth of Canada so quickly when Greenland had already agreed in principle to attend a diplomatic resolution to resolve the matter. Yet in response to this you simply ignored the offer and demanded Greenland rescind it's claims on the lands and threatened war to see it done. That is not reading into anything mind you, that is simply stating the facts of your handling in this situation with Greenland. We find these implications that New Spain sought to bastardize the ATO while not intending to sign to be insulting and unfounded without any reasoning. We simply raised our concerns in that venue and each and every time we raised them you only sought to minimize them rather then simply address the issues...we entered that conference fully prepared to sign onto it. It was only after you failed to assuage our concerns that we left that meeting without signing. Use some simple logic, why on earth would we bother to even entertain an entry at that meeting if we hadn't been prepared to fully sign onto it? We are a new power and we've got a plethora of other concerns to deal with then to make token appearances at a conference; we entered there with intent to sign. The idea that we had some motivations to undermine this treaty and never sign is simply laughable and so far reaching and unfounded that I'm shocked you haven't had an aneurysm from it. But evidently you don't understand how to conduct diplomacy in a reasonable manner as you've demonstrated in this incident and as you demonstrated at that meeting. Your hostile and demeaning rhetoric to various powers has been visible noted. You seemingly operate under some delusions of grandeur that elevate your nation into some status that it may simply order nations to bend to it's will and doctrines while ignoring other American nations concerns and grievances and for that it is you who are blind to reason not I. I only hope the remaining members of the A.T.O aren't as equally stubborn and heavy-handed as you; lest all reason and intelligence in the A.T.O be lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 "The Empire keeps proving they truly are a stabilizing, sensible power in North America. As to the matter regarding the former Commonwealth of Canada, both nations have a claim to make due to their own respective histories and both nations are very reasonable. A diplomatic solution is not out of the question and we hope diplomacy prevails in this situation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted July 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 And once again, you are blind. You continue to demonstrate a clear disconnect from the facts at hand. Allow us to educate you. We prevented a war in the Pacific Northwest. That is a fact. We showed clear logic and reasoning to mediate a situation between two sides very much at odds with each other. That is a fact. We made a mistake in our initial claims on the Commonwealth of Canada. That is a fact. We have since reduced those claims to what falls under the Harland Haiku. That is a fact. The Harland Haiku is a doctrine that has kept peace and stability across a continent for a generation. That is a fact. And while these are the current facts of the situation, let us correct some of your fallacies for the world at large. During the ATO conference, you brought up legitimate concerns. That is a fact. Your concerns were answered, directly, by myself, not once, not twice, but three times. That is a fact. Each time, you chose to ignore the answer given and press on with your concerns, despite the fact that they had been answered. That is a fact. With this evidence, it is very hard for us to believe that you came to that conference with any intent on signing the treaty, one which we firmly believe in, and one which we firmly believe would have benefited from having your nation be a part of it, and that your nation would have benefited from being a part of it. The facts, I am afraid, do not back up your claims in this case that I "don't understand how to conduct diplomacy in a reasonable manner". Perhaps a closer examination of them will serve you well in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1309649716' post='2747193'] It is unfortunate that the government of Greenland has such a dim view of history. We have no interaction with the former Commonwealth? How about the time they tried to take over Nova Scotia? Or the second time they tried to take over Nova Scotia? We apologize that our interactions with the Commonwealth were largely negative, when they attempted to land-grab in mostly back door and underhanded ways, but that is no fault of ours. Frankly, we wonder how such a nation was ever even allowed in an organization such as CAN. Further, a reference to a nation is not a judgement to a people, but rather the government. Their government was greedy, aggressive, and unfit for North America. This is not an opinion, this is an undeniable fact backed up by repeated instances of history. Should the government of Greenland choose to ignore these instances simply because they wish to put themselves in a more advantageous position to claim the land, that is their fault and theirs alone. The world will see history for what it really is, even if you will not. In terms of the current land dispute, the Empire rescinds their claims to all former land of the Commonwealth north of Newfoundland and Labrador. However, all land south of Newfoundland and Labrador, including St. Pierre et Miquelon is covered by the Harland Haiku and will be treated as such. Any incursion into those lands will be treated as an act of war. Finally, to measure a nation based on their technological prowess and level of infrastructural development alone is a grave mistake. For a generation, the Empire has maintained peace and prosperity across a continent. Nearly a dozen nations owe their very existence to our steady hand of leadership. You may have all the technological prowess and infrastructure in the world, but without the brains and political knowledge behind it, you may as well be a backwater nation with biplanes for an airforce. [/quote] Let me be clear, the Commonwealth of Canada was accepted into the Confederation of Arctic Nations because of their commitment to the peace and prosperity of the Arctic sphere. As much as we enjoy critiquing every single member nation over trivial land disputes with neighbors, they represented a significant portion of the population and land area in the Arctic and we were glad to welcome them into our organization. It is quite a shame they their nation collapsed and led to this most recent of hostilities, which were blown out of proportion due to the inappropriate behaviors of the Empire. You are indeed correct that diplomatic prowess is just as important as infrastructure and technology, however it is unfortunate that the Empire of Pravus Ingruo possesses neither. You are led by stubborn leadership that finds it appropriate to escalate every situation to the brink of all out war. That is not diplomacy, that is madness. Unless issuing twenty-four hour ultimatums and threatening to declare war when your allies are trying to hold diplomatic summits is considered the mark of a legendary statesman, I'm afraid that few will agree that the Empire is a bastion of diplomatic resolution and peace which it seems so eager to claim. To the people of North America, I cannot make clear enough that the Empire of Pravus Ingruo is the greatest threat to the security and peace of this continent. Tahoeism comes in many forms and in this era the Empire represents the very worst attributes of the late Tahoe Republic. I ask the nations of North America, especially those still in the A.T.O., to be weary of this threat and ponder Pravus Ingruo's long history of twisting-arm tactic and threats of all-out-war. History shows the Empire attempts to exert its influence whenever possible under numerous threats of war and unprofessional tirades of belittlement. In order to prevent senseless violence we will not be contesting the claims to Labrador, Newfoundland, and St. Pierre and Miquelon, unless the Republique du Quebec wishes to push the matter. At least one side of this conflict recognizes that ultimatum-issuing and war threats will not improve or resolve the situation. Instead we will allow peace to continue on this continent in the hopes that the will of the people may be heard and ultimately listened to. [s]Moralism prevails.[/s] [i]Kristjan Vilhjálmsson Greenland Minister of Foreign Affairs[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1309659464' post='2747281'] We made a mistake in our initial claims on the Commonwealth of Canada. That is a fact. We have since reduced those claims to what falls under the Harland Haiku. That is a fact. [/quote] We await your apology. We are delighted that your recognize a dangerous mistake was made that escalated tensions tremendously in the region. Surely your entire Foreign Affairs department has been dismissed for bringing North America less than twenty-four hours away from war over something you realizes was a simple cartography error. Acceptance is the first step to recovery. [i]Kristjan Vilhjálmsson Greenland Minister of Foreign Affairs[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted July 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Californian' timestamp='1309660182' post='2747295'] We await your apology. We are delighted that your recognize a dangerous mistake was made that escalated tensions tremendously in the region. Surely your entire Foreign Affairs department has been dismissed for bringing North America less than twenty-four hours away from war over something you realizes was a simple cartography error. Acceptance is the first step to recovery. [i]Kristjan Vilhjálmsson Greenland Minister of Foreign Affairs[/i] [/quote] We have acknowledged our mistake. Our foreign affairs department remains intact. You will not be receiving any more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1309659464' post='2747281'] And once again, you are blind. You continue to demonstrate a clear disconnect from the facts at hand. Allow us to educate you. We prevented a war in the Pacific Northwest. That is a fact. We showed clear logic and reasoning to mediate a situation between two sides very much at odds with each other. That is a fact. We made a mistake in our initial claims on the Commonwealth of Canada. That is a fact. We have since reduced those claims to what falls under the Harland Haiku. That is a fact. The Harland Haiku is a doctrine that has kept peace and stability across a continent for a generation. That is a fact. And while these are the current facts of the situation, let us correct some of your fallacies for the world at large. During the ATO conference, you brought up legitimate concerns. That is a fact. Your concerns were answered, directly, by myself, not once, not twice, but three times. That is a fact. Each time, you chose to ignore the answer given and press on with your concerns, despite the fact that they had been answered. That is a fact. With this evidence, it is very hard for us to believe that you came to that conference with any intent on signing the treaty, one which we firmly believe in, and one which we firmly believe would have benefited from having your nation be a part of it, and that your nation would have benefited from being a part of it. The facts, I am afraid, do not back up your claims in this case that I "don't understand how to conduct diplomacy in a reasonable manner". Perhaps a closer examination of them will serve you well in the future. [/quote] Evidently you've forgotten how I qualified my initial response to your declaration as acknowledging that the outcome of this incident was headed towards a peaceful resolution. Allow me to remind you with the exact quotation; "[color="#1C2837"]Although this situation has not escalated any further and the current positions of both the Empire and Greenland would seem to be heading towards a peaceful resolution and concession of the Empires previous claims. [/color][color="#1C2837"]We are nonetheless disappointed." That is not demonstrating a disconnect from facts at all. I must question if it is you are finding a disconnect with fact and reality or if you have a lack of comprehension to grasp at the words I speak...as it would seem my words soar past you into the heavens each and every time.[/color] [color="#1c2837"]Realizing that it is a futile effort to argue with a brick-wall I'll forgo engaging you any further on this matter. I've made my thought sufficient and this issue has been resolved, perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word tact and how it's successful application creates more fruitful diplomatic engagements with other world leaders...I look forward until another time that I may grace your presence Emperor.[/color] [color="#1c2837"] [/color] [i][color="#1c2837"]Sign[/color][color=#1C2837]ed,[/color][/i] [color="#1c2837"][i]King of New Spain[/i][/color] [color="#1c2837"][i]Enrique Bourbon I[/i][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShammySocialist Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) [b]Classified[/b] On review of the stable situation that now presents itself, the CFLFC has begun the withdrawal of the 4th Airborne Brigade and other Cajun Armed Forces personnel and equipment from Newfoundland and Labrador. The withdrawal would be done in incremental stages, and all Cajun Federation forces would be home within a weeks' time. Edited July 4, 2011 by TheShammySocialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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