Omniscient1 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1309187991' post='2742714'] OMG people are really slow today. [/quote] I got it! I'm feeling pretty clever today. [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1309195969' post='2742760'] Vikings do not believe in or give credence to GOD... [/quote] I think it's time to cut down the Donar Oak then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazaraus45 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I would love to see this one, I don't think many can top AsG when it comes to skill, I hear Val are good although i have no personal experience with them, NoR are also good and DT held their own well against CSN, I won't comment on RoK since i could give greatly varying opinions depending on my mood I've never held any respect for R&R in any capacity, especially not skill, RIA seem good, GOD are very good fighters, CSN are meh from what i've seen. My money's on Mjolnir, but of course, there's only one way to know for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 In a short-term periphery front sort of thing, Mj would be coming out on top. They have more tech and less infra meaning that they'll inflict more damage, and the damage they inflict will cost more money. If we fought for a month then called a white peace I have little doubt Mj would end up coming out ahead. In a long term total annihilation type war, I have to say I think SF would have the edge. We're an older, more cohesive bloc that's more likely to stay the course over the one or two [i]years[/i] of warring it would actually take to completely deplete either side - in the end I think SF would be more likely to be the ones walking away. Of course, as D34th so aptly put it, the real winners in a situation like this would be everyone who [i]wasn't[/i] fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Mjolnir probably wins because our top end has never been what I'd call good numerically. We'd lose up top pretty convincingly, and our mid tiers would get pissed on by people hitting down. Never a good thing to have going. Edited June 27, 2011 by Aurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artigo Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I would have to give this one to Mjölnir in a true 1v1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Oh man this on would be pretty brutal. I'd love to see the propaganda war if this ever actually happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1309201039' post='2742830'] Oh man this on would be pretty brutal. I'd love to see the propaganda war if this ever actually happened. [/quote] Depending on the CB I'd gladly help SF with propaganda pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePePe Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 A completely inexperienced and not so well-trained army defeated the best military in the world in 1783. One of the primary reasons for this army's victory was their unending desire for victory. Not only does MJ have this same morale, but we've got the tech, fighting capability, and upper tier to back us up. Mjolnir wins pretty convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1309201265' post='2742834'] Depending on the CB I'd gladly help SF with propaganda pieces. [/quote] Honestly I'd rather you helped them fight instead...do about as much good yet more fun for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1309207297' post='2742901'] Honestly I'd rather you helped them fight instead...do about as much good yet more fun for all [/quote] SF + D34th vs Mj is unfair for you guys, I'd never do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp110 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1309182559' post='2742665'] Mjolnir, wins easily. Valhalla didn’t have to rebuild and should be sitting on hefty warchests. [/quote] What's a warchest? [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1309164888' post='2742590'] Only one way to find out. [/quote] YES!!! Would be a fun war, and maybe some of the pent-up anger between the two blocs would finally get released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven for Peace Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 SF for life! <333 RIA and Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 The fact that anyone thinks this is a "winnable" fight is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1309227931' post='2743123'] The fact that anyone thinks this is a "winnable" fight is funny. [/quote] What you said is funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRCatD Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='RePePe' timestamp='1309201864' post='2742840'] A completely inexperienced and not so well-trained army defeated the best military in the world in 1783. One of the primary reasons for this army's victory was their unending desire for victory. Not only does MJ have this same morale, but we've got the tech, fighting capability, and upper tier to back us up. Mjolnir wins pretty convincingly. [/quote] Ironically, the "inexperienced army" won due to foreign intervention, not unending desire for victory, which history textbooks might have us believe. And we were trying to dismiss foreign intervention in this thread... Edited June 28, 2011 by XRCatD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigon Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 This would be interesting. Winning that fight would be pretty hollow I'd say. I can see us pulling through in several scenarios, but we should be the underdog if you put up a stiff coordinated fight. The first question though is if you'll manage that. SF has proven that we can plan a war and influence it according to our designs. I'm looking forward to you doing the same, because while I think you could potentially be much deadlier, I doubt that you could take us on right now. I'd love to see you try though. Shame it'll never happen, at least not in the 1v1 variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='sir pwnage' timestamp='1309146771' post='2742445'] INT still has a deep love for our former LEO brothers, we even still use the gov channel. I couldn't imagine INT abandoning either of them to a beatdown from anyone. Throw in the fact that they'd be hitting NoR, and it's an offer INT can't refuse [/quote] <3 anyway, i think it depends on who attacks who, when and how. the sides are not too uneven so a good first strike with few counters before the first 2 attacks are made could make a difference. And then i assume every alliance will be at war with every alliance in the other bloc otherwise the offensive side would have an advantage of deciding the pairing. Mjolnir has the better avg ns, but if SF strikes first we have the advantage of down declaring that would only leave a few nations mjolnir has to counter in the top and that would make up for the higher ANS, plus a few dedicated top nations could keep up to 3 times as many enemy nations occupied (nuclear anarchy is a !@#$%* right). The toptier would have a hard time for sure, but can't say this would be the first war we fight where we didn't have supremacy on the top tier, doesn't mean that much unless it's a big difference like it was on the DH front last war. I can't say i'm all too familiar with Val, asg. and nor's fighting abilities apart from the fact that it's not terrible, but i do know both DT and RoK have had a good beating not too long ago so i can't imagine all their members would be in for yet another difficult war. Though it's true SF alliances are not used to fighting a losing war anymore i think some people in this topic are mistaken on that we can't handle it anymore. We would definitely not surrender easily even if we turn out to be the losing side. Plus we have a great advantage in the mid/bottom tier seeing our nations are used to fight wars against shotdown nations that have (better) wonders and bigger warchests then they have. In the end i have to go with Delta on this one, it's a fight that can't be won, sure one bloc may do more damage then the other but any "victory" would come at such a great cost i would not call anyone a winner coming out of this. Edited June 28, 2011 by EgoFreaky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 ITT: Everyone who isn't SF says Mjolnir will win, while SF tries to call it a draw so that they don't have to admit they'd lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1309227931' post='2743123'] The fact that anyone thinks this is a "winnable" fight is funny. [/quote] The party that doesn't surrender first wins. But I guess that all depends on your definition of winning. If yours is that winning is ending the war with more than you went into, well then no war is winnable in CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Clearly because Mjolinor received more votes in this poll they would win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1309255228' post='2743356'] Clearly because Mjolinor received more votes in this poll they would win. [/quote] Yeah they would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1309255228' post='2743356'] Clearly because Mjolinor received more votes in this poll they would win. [/quote] No, its simply because were better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1309242528' post='2743289'] ITT: Everyone who isn't SF says Mjolnir will win, while SF tries to call it a draw so that they don't have to admit they'd lose. [/quote] ITT: Lack of reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1309255228' post='2743356'] Clearly because Mjolinor received more votes in this poll they would win. [/quote] No, it is because they have more activity+experience+better suited stats for a 1v1 war with SF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1309266757' post='2743399'] No, its simply because were better. [/quote] No, you're not. It's funny watching that head get nice and big because you think you have something now, but be careful, you may get sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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