HeroofTime55 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='trance addict' timestamp='1308157050' post='2731905'] When shall your 6 vassals be joining an actual alliance? [/quote] >not understanding what the word "vassal" means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArneS Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308245013' post='2732507'] >not understanding what the word "vassal" means [/quote] >really thinking iFOK was FOK's vassal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammar Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Time for a new vassal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens of the desert Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Noooo, how can this happen? At least I can find consolation in the fact that all your collective fail will be in one big alliance now. Love you all, xxxx Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Herro Buds The Man! I'd just like to chime in and say that I've always had great respect for Duckroll, even if ML attacked my allies (still very ballsy). None of DR's alliances are slackers when it comes to war...none. IRON's military power always > NPO's. Very few blocs can say that. I still remember that long Duckroll'ed pic from a long ago great war (forget which now). I fought BAPS when I was in TOP and they were one of the few that refused to sign a non-nuke deal with TOP and I greatly respected them for that and loved lobbing nukes at each other. BAPS war record never needs to be questioned. I think it's been addressed and beat to death, but I thought I'd chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Milienius Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 It will be wonderful to get to know everyone at NG in the coming days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='ArneS' timestamp='1308246642' post='2732518'] >really thinking iFOK was FOK's vassal [/quote] They were. Just like Polaris was, in an ancient era, a vassal state of Pacifica. Just like the Obsidian Entente was an (attempted) vassal state of VE. So too was iFOK established as a vassal state of FOK. This event is the closest they ever came to becoming more than a vassal state. iFOK never made a name for themselves, they were only ever "that tumor attached to FOK." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308250035' post='2732548'] They were. Just like Polaris was, in an ancient era, a vassal state of Pacifica. Just like the Obsidian Entente was an (attempted) vassal state of VE. So too was iFOK established as a vassal state of FOK. This event is the closest they ever came to becoming more than a vassal state. iFOK never made a name for themselves, they were only ever "that tumor attached to FOK." [/quote] Oh you're so cool, calling a dedicated and active community of over a 100 players a 'tumor'. I never knew you could sink that low. iFOK might have had some help in the early beginnings, but we've been an independent alliance from the start and created our own FA course. We got us a treaty with par example VE, FCO and SLCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Lightyear Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 ah gotcha Buds. Thanks for the well wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Out with the old vassal and in with the new vassal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='erikz' timestamp='1308253070' post='2732590'] Oh you're so cool, calling a dedicated and active community of over a 100 players a 'tumor'. I never knew you could sink that low. iFOK might have had some help in the early beginnings, but we've been an independent alliance from the start and created our own FA course. We got us a treaty with par example VE, FCO and SLCB. [/quote] iFOK was founded for FOK wannabes that didn't speak the native tongue. You didn't have your own direction. It only slightly differed from that of FOK, because you remained an insignificant and negligible speck attached to the hip of an actual, real alliance. Wherever FOK went, you went without question, because you were really just a part of FOK all along. In other words, a vassal state. If you want to see a real alliance that evolved past being a vassal state, look at Polaris. iFOK never achieved separation, was never able to leave the nest and achieve flight as an independent alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308259697' post='2732632']You didn't have your own direction. It only slightly differed from that of FOK, because you remained an insignificant and negligible speck attached to the hip of an actual, real alliance. [/quote] This is kind of funny considering the same goes for your alliance. Except being attached to the hip of a well-regarded powerful alliance, you're attached to the hip of a turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308259697' post='2732632'] iFOK was founded for FOK wannabes that didn't speak the native tongue. You didn't have your own direction. It only slightly differed from that of FOK, because you remained an insignificant and negligible speck attached to the hip of an actual, real alliance. Wherever FOK went, you went without question, because you were really just a part of FOK all along. In other words, a vassal state. If you want to see a real alliance that evolved past being a vassal state, look at Polaris. iFOK never achieved separation, was never able to leave the nest and achieve flight as an independent alliance. [/quote] You'll have that kind of seperation when your "mother country" and her friends stomp you into the ground. Vassal state is not really correct. That would imply iFOK was subordinate and under the control of FOK. Meaning, FOK installed their leaders, iFOK made some kind of payment for protection, FA direction was controlled by FOK, etc. This isn't really the case. Sister alliance is the term, really. Best wishes to Non Grata in their endeavors, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1308261975' post='2732650'] This is kind of funny considering the same goes for your alliance. Except being attached to the hip of a well-regarded powerful alliance, you're attached to the hip of a turd. [/quote] That's kind of funny too since I could say the same about your alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1308262204' post='2732652'] That's kind of funny too since I could say the same about your alliance. [/quote] And you'd be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1308262305' post='2732653'] And you'd be wrong! [/quote] Simply saying someone is wrong doesn't make them wrong (although I know I am right anyhow ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArneS Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308259697' post='2732632'] iFOK was founded for FOK wannabes that didn't speak the native tongue. You didn't have your own direction. It only slightly differed from that of FOK, because you remained an insignificant and negligible speck attached to the hip of an actual, real alliance. Wherever FOK went, you went without question, because you were really just a part of FOK all along. In other words, a vassal state. If you want to see a real alliance that evolved past being a vassal state, look at Polaris. iFOK never achieved separation, was never able to leave the nest and achieve flight as an independent alliance. [/quote] This shows (again) that you have no idea about how the relationship was between iFOK and FOK.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTheFirst Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think iFOK did a lot more to make CN fun than most other alliances. iFOK's greatest accomplishment was probably coming up with the idea of PB and bringing those alliances together. And besides that, it was an active alliance that could fight well and which people loved to be part of. And now all those active people join forces with the active people from PC...it can only lead to great things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 No hard feelings Bud. I just like drama and posting in a topic relevant to my interests for once. If anything, I think it'd be great to catch a query sometime. [quote name='ArneS' timestamp='1308263628' post='2732661'] This shows (again) that you have no idea about how the relationship was between iFOK and FOK.. [/quote] It just shows that he hasn't looked in a mirror for the past four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308259697' post='2732632'] post random idiotic stuff here [/quote] HEY EVERYBODY! Blackwater is just a vassal state of OBR! Blackwater, what a bunch of losers! They never do anything without OBR. Blackwater are a bunch of OBR wannabees! It a world where everyone is treatied to everyone is anyone really [i]truly [/i]independent anyway? Doesn't the whole "vassal" thing get old. I could say any alliance is a vassal to another alliance or bloc, just the nature of this things here. o/GUARD! Probably the last example other than neutrals/indie's who actually weren't tied to anyone......other than each other. Edited June 16, 2011 by Steve Buscemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1308262202' post='2732651'] You'll have that kind of seperation when your "mother country" and her friends stomp you into the ground. [/quote] Protip: Pacifica never once raised arms against Polaris in the history of this world, and it was Polaris who attempted to damage relations. Polaris, and Electron Sponge in particular, orchestrated the Unjust War to damage Pacifica's standing in the world. When Polaris was eventually attacked in the War of the Coalition (By a coalition consisting of alliances other than Pacifica. Here, let me list them: MCXA, TOP, Grämlins, Umbrella, FOK!, RnR, and FARK. Any of those sound familiar?), it was 100% deserved. But thanks for sharing your utter ignorance of world history with someone who was actually there and participated in events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I am honestly stunned that someone called MK a 1st tier fighting alliance a page or two ago. They were terrible this past war if you had anything close to an even tech amount. Riddled with inactivity despite having giant war chests. I fought several that would maybe lob 1 nuke and then just turtle the rest of the war despite them having billion+ dollar war chests. The change in them from Karma til now was stunning to me. As for the merger, meh. I am long since over Poison Clan and never cared that much one way or another about iFOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1308265965' post='2732683'] Protip: Pacifica never once raised arms against Polaris in the history of this world, and it was Polaris who attempted to damage relations. Polaris, and Electron Sponge in particular, orchestrated the Unjust War to damage Pacifica's standing in the world. When Polaris was eventually attacked in the War of the Coalition (By a coalition consisting of alliances other than Pacifica. Here, let me list them: MCXA, TOP, Grämlins, Umbrella, FOK!, RnR, and FARK. Any of those sound familiar?), it was 100% deserved. But thanks for sharing your utter ignorance of world history with someone who was actually there and participated in events. [/quote] Way to spaz out and totally misread what I was saying. You said NpO was the only vassal state to go it's own way in this world. I said, well, the WotC probably had a hand in that due to the spectacular curbstomp by all of NPO's allies that still resonates today. I'm not attacking your overlords, you can relax. I simply inferred that they didn't exactly separate peaceably. Oh, and I was there, bra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1308262376' post='2732654'] Simply saying someone is wrong doesn't make them wrong (although I know I am right anyhow ) [/quote] Simply saying that you're right doesn't make you right, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1308272713' post='2732757'] Simply saying that you're right doesn't make you right, either. [/quote] [sarcasm] Really? Wow you could have fooled me. [/sarcasm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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