King James XVIII Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [center][img]http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx9/xFR4NKtheT4NKx/sicklephoenixflag3.jpg[/img] Well, that time of the round is here again and we're not wasting any time or cowering in the corner. TPC (the top tier at least) declares war on Eorlingas, err...Rohirrim. We also recognize a state of war with Organized Nations of Superiority, Obama 1 Osama 0 (whats left of them anyway) and a Mr. Roose Bolton. Don't hide and don't turtle, this promises to be mutual destruction at its finest. With that, let loose the dogs of war. o/ TPC [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieG Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelios Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Get em TPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='StevieG' timestamp='1307341251' post='2725203'] Numbers? [/quote] 414k NS for TPC vs around 250k, it appears. I guess that they're just hitting flag-runners, but it's still pretty unfortunate that they're down-declaring this severely. [quote] Don't hide and don't turtle, this promises to be mutual destruction at its finest. [/quote] Actually, it'll be pretty one-sided whether they turtle or not. Edited June 6, 2011 by Schad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einer Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307342342' post='2725220'] down-declaring [/quote] Declaring Nation Strength: 16,630.950 Defending Nation Strength: 29,912.916 Yeah, I know. I'm a terrible terrible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Einer' timestamp='1307342781' post='2725225'] Declaring Nation Strength: 16,630.950 Defending Nation Strength: 29,912.916 Yeah, I know. I'm a terrible terrible person. [/quote] We did the same thing hitting RD and Catharsis...up-declares across the board. Difference being that the member count was basically equal, and they had more NS. You're up-declaring on individual nations, but by sheer crush of numbers it's a no-contest. Again, don't mind you taking out flag-runners, but try to make it seem like something of a fair fight rather than a squashing, or don't post about the epic mutual destruction that will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James XVIII Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307342342' post='2725220'] 414k NS for TPC vs around 250k, it appears. I guess that they're just hitting flag-runners, but it's still pretty unfortunate that they're down-declaring this severely. Actually, it'll be pretty one-sided whether they turtle or not. [/quote] I mean you could look at it that way, or look a bit closer. Only 23 of our nations can reach their lowest nation. Of those 23, only 16 match the strength of that lowest nation and they have 10 nations of 13 or more nukes when we have 4. Its an upper tier fight done less than a week after we all left war, as evidenced by our "blitz". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='King James XVIII' timestamp='1307343109' post='2725229'] I mean you could look at it that way, or look a bit closer. Only 23 of our nations can reach their lowest nation. Of those 23, only 16 match the strength of that lowest nation and they have 10 nations of 13 or more nukes when we have 4. Its an upper tier fight done less than a week after we all left war, as evidenced by our "blitz". [/quote] Heh, that still makes it 2 to 1 in numbers, though, even at the nuclear tier only. Squashing flag-runners is fine, just call it like it is...not a war, just a way to leverage a serious strength imbalance to take out a competitor. The only issue I take here is casting it as some sort of fair war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealmaster13 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307343382' post='2725234'] Squashing flag-runners is fine, just call it like it is [/quote] This [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307343382' post='2725234'] ...not a war, just a way to leverage a serious strength imbalance to take out a competitor. The only issue I take here is casting it as some sort of fair war. [/quote] ...and don't worry, there'll be a compromise. Let the fire burn! [img]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x82/dealmaster13/colbert.gif[/img] Edit: Still can't spell 'compromise' and have no idea why Edited June 6, 2011 by dealmaster13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einer Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307343382' post='2725234']take out a competitor. [/quote] Yeah, we're totally clearing the way for our flagrunner. ...wait. What? Dammit DM, you were supposed to hide and hug your infra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Einer' timestamp='1307344724' post='2725243'] Yeah, we're totally clearing the way for our flagrunner. ...wait. What? Dammit DM, you were supposed to hide and hug your infra. [/quote] Heh, I'd hope that you're doing it to clear the way for a flag-runner; that'd make sense. Doing it as a standalone war would be pretty pathetic...and I say that despite liking TPC quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James XVIII Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [img]http://msnsmileys.net/q/smileys/Questioning/Burning.gif[/img][img]http://msnsmileys.net/q/smileys/Questioning/Round.gif[/img][img]http://msnsmileys.net/q/smileys/Questioning/Rotating.gif[/img] [img]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused002.gif[/img] Looks like we left more questions than answers tonight lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jereish1 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Lots of action going on tonight this is nice to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealmaster13 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307344929' post='2725247'] Heh, I'd hope that you're doing it to clear the way for a flag-runner [/quote] We don't play dirty. We play with honour. Don't respect our ways of building, warring and enjoying ourselves? Well I guess all you really need to do is have a flick through the record books to uncover the success of TPF and TPC by playing it [i]our[/i] way. Have a good time, folks! Plenty more to come - don't look forward to Round 18 just yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jereish1 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Good luck and have fun TPC o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dealmaster13' timestamp='1307346683' post='2725257'] We don't play dirty. We play with honour. Don't respect our ways of building, warring and enjoying ourselves? Well I guess all you really need to do is have a flick through the record books to uncover the success of TPF and TPC by playing it [i]our[/i] way.[/quote] I'm well aware of those things...it's why I respect TPC, and why this declarion flummoxed me more than a tad. [quote] Plenty more to come - don't look forward to Round 18 just yet! [/quote] Works for me; hopefully I'll wake up to another 150k-200k NS involved to balance this out. Edited June 6, 2011 by Schad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 My favorite thing is knowing that LE is flag running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einer Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='SoADarthCyfe6' timestamp='1307376472' post='2725439'] My favorite thing is knowing that LE is flag running. [/quote] Damn, they found TPC's flagrunners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelios Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1307344929' post='2725247'] Heh, I'd hope that you're doing it to clear the way for a flag-runner; that'd make sense. Doing it as a standalone war would be pretty pathetic...and I say that despite liking TPC quite a bit. [/quote] hitting flag runners for them being cowards is pathetic? Maybe you should take a page out of their book :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1307381101' post='2725470'] hitting flag runners for them being cowards is pathetic? Maybe you should take a page out of their book :v [/quote] It's possible to hit flag-runners while still launching something akin to a fair war. Hitting an alliance half one's size while berating cowardly behaviour doesn't tend to win support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcortell Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1307381101' post='2725470'] hitting flag runners for them being cowards is pathetic? Maybe you should take a page out of their book :v [/quote] Are you implying PS didn't hit high enough NS nations? Maybe I'm missing what you're saying, but if not, why don't you take a look at our last war. Anyways, another great war declaration by TPC. I don't ever really mind hitting flag runners. Everyone should war IMO, and if you don't, you're asking for someone to war you. However, knowing that TPC is just hitting them in a down-declare to help their own flag runners is a bit disconcerting. I'm sure everyone will be hit sooner or later, though. At least, I'd be surprised if they weren't. It's truly sad what TPC's leadership has become. I don't believe I commented on his post before, but JB seemed to be spot on with his assessment of TPC by their actions. PS has always had a special place in our hearts for TPC for many rounds. I don't believe we have ever warred them going back to our roots when they protected us. However, they seem to have bad war and bad war. Sucks to see an AA that you've always respected turn into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealmaster13 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='bcortell' timestamp='1307388661' post='2725537'] However, knowing that TPC is just hitting them in a down-declare to help their own flag runners is a bit disconcerting. [/quote] You are truly out of your mind, and after this final comment (without even considering what follows) my respect for you has gone straight down into the negative. You should watch what you say on the OWF, because you are seriously damaging Pork Shrimp's PR in some peoples' eyes. I don't care if you are just joking around or not; at least make sure what you post is respectable and truthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jereish1 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I personally agree with TPCs war regardless what other peoples opinions are. i mean whether they are down declaring or updeclaring or waring for the hell of it with out or with just cause war is war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelios Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='bcortell' timestamp='1307388661' post='2725537'] Are you implying PS didn't hit high enough NS nations? Maybe I'm missing what you're saying, but if not, why don't you take a look at our last war. Anyways, another great war declaration by TPC. I don't ever really mind hitting flag runners. Everyone should war IMO, and if you don't, you're asking for someone to war you. However, knowing that TPC is just hitting them in a down-declare to help their own flag runners is a bit disconcerting. I'm sure everyone will be hit sooner or later, though. At least, I'd be surprised if they weren't. It's truly sad what TPC's leadership has become. I don't believe I commented on his post before, but JB seemed to be spot on with his assessment of TPC by their actions. PS has always had a special place in our hearts for TPC for many rounds. I don't believe we have ever warred them going back to our roots when they protected us. However, they seem to have bad war and bad war. Sucks to see an AA that you've always respected turn into this. [/quote] No, my remark was directed at Schad . And im really not going to comment on the rest. It looks like you guys have your mind made up on how you feel. Look i have respect for PS too. That is starting to diminish tho. If you dont like the war... well.... It happened.. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 [quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1307391327' post='2725565'] It looks like you guys have your mind made up on how you feel. [/quote] I haven't...if I'd woken up to see TPC had hit another AA to balance things out, I'd be cheering for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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