janax Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I was thinking of just this the other day... 1 rep from each of the major blocs and 1 each from the NPpO power spheres. 6 people drafting, 10 rounds, snake draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='alyster' timestamp='1307353151' post='2725288'] NoR will put up a lousy fight, surrender fast and then declare war as an ally of Doomhouse. That will put the fight out of balance and DH will win. Other than that, an interesting question :-/ [/quote] Surrender fast, beating that same drum again I see Lousy fight, yeah like we did against your guys Good to know you are still butt hurt from all this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyster Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='pd73bassman' timestamp='1307859955' post='2729671'] Surrender fast, beating that same drum again I see Lousy fight, yeah like we did against your guys Good to know you are still butt hurt from all this [/quote] Not butthurt, just pointing out how NoR fights. And why is it that every time someone speaks against NoR he is butthurt? Can't you guys withstand criticism at all? Edited June 12, 2011 by alyster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='ImperialCubanacan' timestamp='1307783579' post='2729114'] Also, Exige reads the OWF? [/quote] son, I have been reading the OWF since the day vlad lost his hair. I just don't post a lot, posting things like "grats" or "o/ blabla" isn't worth the effort of having to log in IMO. So mostly lurking for me [quote name='alyster' timestamp='1307875706' post='2729765'] Not butthurt, just pointing out how NoR fights. And why is it that every time someone speaks against NoR he is butthurt? Can't you guys withstand criticism at all? [/quote] lousy fight? you mean against WF? Sure, that must be why they were in the top 5 of smallest alliance gains eventho they only had like 100members and all 4 other alliances in that list had 250+members. and surrender? I'm sorry that WF sucks even more at making OWF announcements than they suck at war. or do you mean a lousy war against NPO? well I fought you in TE and after having you waste one of my slots with your pathetic performance, I don't think you should be allowed to call anyone a lousy fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='janax' timestamp='1307858626' post='2729657'] I was thinking of just this the other day... 1 rep from each of the major blocs and 1 each from the NPpO power spheres. 6 people drafting, 10 rounds, snake draft. [/quote] We should get together and make this happen janax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Not Fear Jazz Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I would win, singlehandedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='alyster' timestamp='1307875706' post='2729765'] Not butthurt, just pointing out how NoR fights. And why is it that every time someone speaks against NoR he is butthurt? Can't you guys withstand criticism at all? [/quote] Keep living in your dreamworld, and yes I can take criticism but not coming from your likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='alyster' timestamp='1307875706' post='2729765'] Not butthurt, just pointing out how NoR fights. And why is it that every time someone speaks against NoR he is butthurt? Can't you guys withstand criticism at all? [/quote] Insult someone's alliance. Call them butthurt for not being happy with it. makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='Exige' timestamp='1307885737' post='2729797'] or do you mean a lousy war against NPO? well I fought you in TE and after having you waste one of my slots with your pathetic performance, I don't think you should be allowed to call anyone a lousy fighter. [/quote] Did you really just use TE as a comparison to SE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1307907627' post='2730001'] Did you really just use TE as a comparison to SE? [/quote] hey sweety, given the fact that people associate your name with failure, you realy shouldn't do the whole facepalm thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 The end result doesn't interest me nearly as much as what we could possibly find to fight about. I can't think of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1307910406' post='2730022'] The end result doesn't interest me nearly as much as what we could possibly find to fight about. I can't think of anything. [/quote] roq turns out to be your drumm playing neighbour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='Exige' timestamp='1307910350' post='2730020'] hey sweety, given the fact that people associate your name with failure, you realy shouldn't do the whole facepalm thing [/quote] Nice way to avoid the point made, you compared TE to SE which is stupid so I guess refusing to acknowladge that means that you know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1307916199' post='2730065'] Nice way to avoid the point made, you compared TE to SE which is stupid so I guess refusing to acknowladge that means that you know that. [/quote] I don't see why me fighting him with a wrecked nation and defeating him in TE is such a bad reference towards his fighting capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='Exige' timestamp='1307916896' post='2730069'] I don't see why me fighting him with a wrecked nation and defeating him in TE is such a bad reference towards his fighting capabilities. [/quote] You arn't aware the people play diffrently in TE? Have smaller warchests? Are generally less focused on preserving their nation? Treating TE like SE is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuz Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 War, nation building, politics in TE and SE are approached very differently. Some of the best TE players are rather poor SE players and vice versa. It's like judging a physicist over his chemistry knowledge... some are good at both, but it doesn't mean anything. If I were to extrapolate from TE experience, I'd say that Umbrella is a horrible alliance of noobs who collect at 0 infra, PC are casualty whores, GOONS are hippies, Basketball Ninjas are an aggressive elite alliance, and TOP/GPA are infra hugging semi-neutrals. And that almost every CN:SE leader is horribly inactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearUnited Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Ok so i got really bored to do this... This is for your comparison. Much Love, -FearUnited- [u][b]Umbrella(Umb)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 45 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 33 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 11 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 7 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 88 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 89 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 78 -Nuke Count- 1,871 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 78 [u][b]Poison Clan(PC)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 4 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 11 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 43 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 6 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 45 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 54 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 49 -Nuke Count- 832 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 29 [u][b]Mushroom Kingdom(MK)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 10 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 38 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 51 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 42 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 111 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 120 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 102 -Nuke Count- 1,523 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 79 [size="4"][u][b]Total-(Umb)+(PC)+(MK)[/b][/u][/size] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 59 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 82 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 105 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 55 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 244 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 263 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 229 -Nuke Count- 4,226 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 186 ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ [u][b]Asgaard(Asg)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 11 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 23 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 14 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 2 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 41 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 47 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 32 -Nuke Count- 1,050 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 29 [u][b]Nordreich(NoR)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 9 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 37 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 49 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 73 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 85 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 96 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 69 -Nuke Count- 1,785 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 42 [u][b]Valhalla(Val)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 11 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 30 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 41 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 29 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 55 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 61 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 48 -Nuke Count- 1,381 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 39 [u][b]The Dark Templar(DT)[/b][/u] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 0 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 16 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 17 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 11 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 25 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 31 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 21 -Nuke Count- 506 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 13 [size="4"][u][b]Total-(Asg)+(NoR)+(Val)+(DT)[/b][/u][/size] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 31 -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 106 -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 121 -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 115 -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 206 -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 235 -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 170 -Nuke Count- 4,722 -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 123 [size="5"][u][b]Total Outcome(Percent/ratio difference) (Umb)+(PC)+(MK) to (Asg)+(NoR)+(Val)+(DT)[/b][/u][/size] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 59:31 (+1.9%) -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 82:106 (-0.77%) -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 105:121 (-0.87%) -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 55:115 (-0.48%) -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 244:206 (+1.18%) -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 263:235 (+1.12%) -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 229:170 (+1.35%) -Nuke Count- 4,226:4,722 (-0.89%) -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 186:123 (+1.51%) Edited June 12, 2011 by FearUnited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 [quote name='MrMuz' timestamp='1307919775' post='2730105'] War, nation building, politics in TE and SE are approached very differently. Some of the best TE players are rather poor SE players and vice versa. It's like judging a physicist over his chemistry knowledge... some are good at both, but it doesn't mean anything. If I were to extrapolate from TE experience, I'd say that Umbrella is a horrible alliance of noobs who collect at 0 infra, [b]PC are casualty whores[/b], GOONS are hippies, Basketball Ninjas are an aggressive elite alliance, and TOP/GPA are infra hugging semi-neutrals. And that almost every CN:SE leader is horribly inactive. [/quote] So nothing has changed, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 This should just happen for the hell of it....Summer is here and we've been lacking a good summer war for a while now....so yeah.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='MrMuz' timestamp='1307919775' post='2730105'] War, nation building, politics in TE and SE are approached very differently. Some of the best TE players are rather poor SE players and vice versa. It's like judging a physicist over his chemistry knowledge... some are good at both, but it doesn't mean anything. If I were to extrapolate from TE experience, I'd say that Umbrella is a horrible alliance of noobs who collect at 0 infra, PC are casualty whores, GOONS are hippies, [b][i]Basketball Ninjas are an aggressive elite alliance[/b][/i], and TOP/GPA are infra hugging semi-neutrals. And that almost every CN:SE leader is horribly inactive. [/quote] Give it time...we generally represent about 5-8% of the total NS in TE, so we can afford to be a little more aggressive. So when we hit 22m NS in Standard (still with less than 50 members, naturally), things will change. Edited June 12, 2011 by Schad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 [quote name='FearUnited' timestamp='1307919907' post='2730108'] [size="5"][u][b]Total Outcome(Percent/ratio difference) (Umb)+(PC)+(MK) to (Asg)+(NoR)+(Val)+(DT)[/b][/u][/size] -Nations with NS 100k+ = 59:31 (+1.9%) -Nations with NS 50-90k+ = 82:106 (-0.77%) -Nations with NS 10-40k+ = 105:121 (-0.87%) -Nations with NS 10k and Below = 55:115 (-0.48%) -Strategic Defense Initiatives(SDI) Count- 244:206 (+1.18%) -Manhattan Projects(MP)- 263:235 (+1.12%) -Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos- 229:170 (+1.35%) -Nuke Count- 4,226:4,722 (-0.89%) -Weapons Research Complexes(WRC) Count- 186:123 (+1.51%) [/quote] First things first. Wow. You really were bored, weren't you? With all of this, it's still difficult to say anything concrete about the results. Every area where I want to say "Oh man we're dead" is offset by something else that makes it not so bad. NoR doesn't have many nations >10K that are without nukes, so the lower end would be ugly for a while, until the upper-tier nations dropped down with all of their military Wonders. What would probably tip the scales is the number of nations at the top end, Manhattan Projects and WRCs. So....advantage Umb/PC/MK, I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1307928761' post='2730228'] First things first. Wow. You really were bored, weren't you? With all of this, it's still difficult to say anything concrete about the results. Every area where I want to say "Oh man we're dead" is offset by something else that makes it not so bad. NoR doesn't have many nations >10K that are without nukes, so the lower end would be ugly for a while, until the upper-tier nations dropped down with all of their military Wonders. What would probably tip the scales is the number of nations at the top end, Manhattan Projects and WRCs. So....advantage Umb/PC/MK, I think? [/quote] Poison Clan has a ton of guys at 20k and below with full wonder sets and MP/SDI. That and aid bombs kept our little guys alive in the last war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob Cake Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [img]http://i.imgur.com/YkqGp.png[/img] Here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Yeah, um. I personally would want a lot more than four alliances at the table, if Umbrella were on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuz Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Unfortunately, PC no longer exists. If you replace PC with NG, you'd have to put a big alliance on the other side to even hold them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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