Triyun Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Lynneth' timestamp='1306494830' post='2718934'] You're all arguing for naught, guys. Obviously, the Americas would win in a battle between the GNR and UFE. InternetScientist (7,917 posts) [/quote] Lol Americans couldn't find the keys to their tanks before China defeated all other nations! -UnitedFormosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 DKT will rise again! Butthurt-DKT-fan (19919191134834242392932932493242934932 posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1306468862' post='2718820'] The United Federation of the East would have far more bodies to throw into the meatgrinder, not to mention the Greater Nordland Reich had already proved it's unwillingness to use nuclear weapons, where UFE has proven on multiple occasions it will press the big red button if need be. Posted by Anonemoose (72 posts) [/quote] Nobody wins in Mutual Assured Destruction wars, only nuclear winter and total annihilation for both sides. If you can't knock out your opponents with the first wave of attacks undetected until the last picosecond and they have nuclear weapons, expect equally devastating retaliation. Do not underestimate what a man, or a country is capable of doing when it has nothing to lose. -HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth would beat both. Just saying. -Sk8rGurl891 (43 Posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306532486' post='2719150'] A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth would beat both. Just saying. -Sk8rGurl891 (43 Posts) [/quote] Pssssh. You young whippersnappers know nothing of a truly powerful nation. If Uruk were still around they'd kick your asses, they would. Mesh-ki-ang-gasher (2800 posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306532486' post='2719150'] A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth would beat both. Just saying. -Sk8rGurl891 (43 Posts) [/quote] Ohai thr [img]http://www.lahc.edu/classes/chemistry/images/nuclear-explosion.jpg[/img] -Visari-Palpatine 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1306534902' post='2719170'] Ohai thr [img]http://www.lahc.edu/classes/chemistry/images/nuclear-explosion.jpg[/img] -Visari-Palpatine 2012 [/quote] Now times that by 50, and on whoever decided it was the brightest idea to use the "First-nuke strike" policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1306534902' post='2719170'] Ohai thr [img]http://www.lahc.edu/classes/chemistry/images/nuclear-explosion.jpg[/img] -Visari-Palpatine 2012 [/quote] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SWtlngREooI/AAAAAAAAACQ/SOss15KF28A/S220/feanimated.gif[/img] The sacrifice was well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306536003' post='2719178'] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SWtlngREooI/AAAAAAAAACQ/SOss15KF28A/S220/feanimated.gif[/img] The sacrifice was well worth it. [/quote] Free Europe? Where? ahlakpah (54 posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote] Free Europe? Where? ahlakpah (54 posts) [/quote] Good point, makes one wonder why anything is really even worth the time anymore, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306536260' post='2719181'] Good point, makes one wonder why anything is really even worth the time anymore, eh. [/quote] Beer and Hookers -BenderRodriguez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306536003' post='2719178'] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SWtlngREooI/AAAAAAAAACQ/SOss15KF28A/S220/feanimated.gif[/img] The sacrifice was well worth it. [/quote] Victory for Nordland is Freedom for Europa. -VisariPalpatine2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1306546905' post='2719252'] Victory for Nordland is Freedom for Europa. -VisariPalpatine2012 [/quote] True, long-lasting freedom is an impossibility, little more than a dream. -JhudielVader2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1306532486' post='2719150'] A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth would beat both. Just saying. -Sk8rGurl891 (43 Posts)[/quote]Hansea’s alliance could beat both, but maybe not at the same time. By itself the [i]Hanseatic Commonwealth[/i] would have significant problems battling either superpower. A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth, however, is impossible to quantify - idle speculation at best. Posted by Han_Shot_Fist (435 posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1306555185' post='2719335']True, long-lasting freedom is an impossibility, little more than a dream. -JhudielVader2012[/quote]A temporary setback on the road to FREEDOM! Probability of mission hindrance: zero percent Posted by LibertyPrime (200 posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1306529183' post='2719134']Nobody wins in Mutual Assured Destruction wars, only nuclear winter and total annihilation for both sides. If you can't knock out your opponents with the first wave of attacks undetected until the last picosecond and they have nuclear weapons, expect equally devastating retaliation. Do not underestimate what a man, or a country is capable of doing when it has nothing to lose. -HHAYD[/quote]Nuclear Winter is overrated Doctor Hugo definitively proved that global nuclear effects are bunk at the Global Radiation Conference (http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97120). If a worldwide atomic apocalypse was actually going to occur it would have happened already. If those numbers were accurate the cumulative radiation from the last few major ICBM exchanges ought to have killed the entire living human on the surface of our planet several times over. Lots of countries have won atomic wars. It’s a simple matter of sacrificing a dozen or so population centers while annihilating your enemy completely. Nukes are always the solution; if it does work you’re not using enough of them. The UFE has estimated 25 nukes, but GDR more than four (maybe five or six) times that number. UFE doesn’t have enough bombs to level every notable city in the Reich and that’s why GNR’s victory is guaranteed here. The only reason that Australia isn’t glass is that a certain Prussian commander who was in love with Sarah Tintagyl detonated most of Visari’s Alfa-Strike mid-atmosphere. The Chinese don’t have that luxury and would be engulfed in mushroom clouds. The Fed response would only kill about ten to twenty European cities leaving most of Norland’s territory mostly intact. Posted by NukesForYou (1788 posts) Edited May 28, 2011 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1306559495' post='2719376'] Hansea’s alliance could beat both, but maybe not at the same time. By itself the [i]Hanseatic Commonwealth[/i] would have significant problems battling either superpower. A Reincarnated Hanseatic Commonwealth, however, is impossible to quantify - idle speculation at best. Posted by Han_Shot_Fist (435 posts) [/quote] So now your talking allies? Typical western racism towards China. Your just jealous. UFE is now undisputable winner. UFE Allies: Germany, Rebel Army, Kingdom of Cochin, Selenarctos, Vauleyo, Buriytia, Pravus Ingruo, Athens, Greater Pacifica, Confederate States of America, Burma, Zargathia, Union of the Southern Cross, Greater Nordic Empire of Dalmatia, German Union Hanseatic Commonwealth: A bunch of moralists who have cowered countless times before the second China shows up on the battlefield. -Mao ZeWINNING Edit: Uh... Australia 20 million, China 1.3 billion... Europe 500 million... do the math Each UFE Bomb is 19 Megatons, each Nordland bomb was a max of 500 kilotons. One alone would do in most small countries in Europe. Nordland bombs I doubt it could penetrate our shelters. Further China has far more cities of over a million people than Nordland did. The UFEs conventional strategic weapons are more powerful and likely they could get some of those nukes before they launched. Edited May 28, 2011 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1306562263' post='2719399']Each UFE Bomb is 19 Megatons, each Nordland bomb was a max of 500 kilotons. One alone would do in most small countries in Europe. Nordland bombs I doubt it could penetrate our shelters. Further China has far more cities of over a million people than Nordland did. The UFEs conventional strategic weapons are more powerful and likely they could get some of those nukes before they launched.[/quote]Yet for some reason traditionally nukes have inflicted arbitrarily similar damages regardless of yield. . . therefore the size of Chinas weapons dont actually matter. Feddie conventional strategic weapons are unimportant because nukes are the only important weapon in nuclear war. In nuclear warfare whoever launches the most nukes wins! Posted by NukesForYou (1789 posts) Edited May 28, 2011 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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