KaitlinK Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305742542' post='2714404'] To hell and back, together, unless you do something that will drag us there, in that case you can go to hell yourself. [/quote] Really? You sure you don't want a do over on this post... I can wait if you like? Ragnarok isn't the sort to back down from a fight regardless of the odds, but you already know that. We do expect a protectorate to follow the agreement they signed and to act honorably. Should this be too much to ask of an alliance we have no issue showing them the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Damn you for canceling on poor SUN, who had clearly not only violated the spirit of your treaty written to help them learn (and avoid mistakes like this)but the letter as well. You are terrible people Ragnarok. Edited May 18, 2011 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1305747976' post='2714441'] Ragnarok: Unity and honour (except when under threat of a Duckroll attack)[/quote] I wasn't aware that Duckroll was threatening to attack Ragnarok...please, tell me more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='KaitlinK' timestamp='1305747976' post='2714442'] Really? You sure you don't want a do over on this post... I can wait if you like? Ragnarok isn't the sort to back down from a fight regardless of the odds, but you already know that. We do expect a protectorate to follow the agreement they signed and to act honorably. Should this be too much to ask of an alliance we have no issue showing them the door. [/quote] RoK is more the alliance that fights when it shouldn't and doesn't fight when it should. RIGHT? Edited May 18, 2011 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazaraus45 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1305748619' post='2714449'] I wasn't aware that Duckroll was threatening to attack Ragnarok...please, tell me more. [/quote] Neither was i, why do you bring it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1305748634' post='2714450'] RoK is more the alliance that fights when it shouldn't [b]and doesn't fight when it should.[/b] RIGHT? [/quote] Pot, meet kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1305748797' post='2714454'] Neither was i, why do you bring it up? [/quote] Well there was this statement: [quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1305747976' post='2714441'] Ragnarok: Unity and honour (except when under threat of a Duckroll attack)[/quote] It implies that Rok dropped SUN because Duckroll was threatening Rok if they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Rok you are horrible, terrible and immoral people...and im jealous because i thought Olympus was all those things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazaraus45 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1305749460' post='2714461'] Well there was this statement: It implies that Rok dropped SUN because Duckroll was threatening Rok if they didn't. [/quote] It implies that RoK dropped SUN because not doing so could get them dragged into a war with DR, not necessarily that DR were directly making threats against them Edited May 18, 2011 by lazaraus45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatch0 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) We here at SUN are happy to see that ROK would side with exoduses story over their own ally Edited May 18, 2011 by Swatch0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Swatch0' timestamp='1305751365' post='2714476'] We here at SUN are happy to see that ROK would side with exoduses story over their own ally [/quote] Lololololol. Someone's mad because Ragnarok wouldn't enable your stupid antics. Edit: I have a present for you, courtesy of our very own Trekwiz. Wear it with pride: [img]http://www.admiraljoe.com/king_james_sun.jpg[/img] Edited May 18, 2011 by Varianz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305742542' post='2714404'] To hell and back, together, unless you do something that will drag us there, in that case you can go to hell yourself. [/quote] It is shocking how little time it took you to turn into a complete and total idiot. [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1305748619' post='2714449'] I wasn't aware that Duckroll was threatening to attack Ragnarok...please, tell me more. [/quote] Oddly enough, neither were we ... [quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1305749677' post='2714464'] It implies that RoK dropped SUN because not doing so could get them dragged into a war with DR, not necessarily that DR were directly making threats against them [/quote] SUN were dropped for being morons who refused to listen or allow us to help them. We don't really care about the war part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1305747976' post='2714441'] Ragnarok: Unity and honour (except when under threat of a Duckroll attack) [/quote] At no time was there any threat made by DR. Why would there be? We have a treaty with one members of DR and had no intentions of involving them in this little tiff. RoK’s decision was based on the logs sent to them of our negotiations with SUN and the logs sent to us from SUN regarding the Wang incident. I also think the conversation they had with SUN about all this was also a factor but I was not involved in that so I can’t say for sure how that all went down. But you can be sure at no time was Valhalla asked to threaten or did threaten RoK during any of this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='Swatch0' timestamp='1305751365' post='2714476'] We here at SUN are happy to see that ROK would side with exoduses story over their own ally [/quote] We at RoK are more than happy to "stay out of your affairs" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1305752283' post='2714486'] It is shocking how little time it took you to turn into a complete and total idiot. [/quote] Baby why you hurt me like that? For your alliance's sake I hope you return as the Emperor soon, at least with you in charge, consistency can be expected. Since you stepped down it seems like contradictions like what has happened in this situation just become the norm. You call me an idiot for pointing out that your steadfast motto was to burn for each other, but here you are having friends you swore to protect finding themselves in a pickle and you cut and run? The alliance I worked so much with for so long would have told Exodus exactly where to shove it. Oh well, apparently I am an idiot now. At least we'll always have Paris, Hoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305752843' post='2714493'] Baby why you hurt me like that? For your alliance's sake I hope you return as the Emperor soon, at least with you in charge, consistency can be expected. Since you stepped down it seems like contradictions like what has happened in this situation just become the norm. You call me an idiot for pointing out that your steadfast motto was to burn for each other, but here you are having friends you swore to protect finding themselves in a pickle and you cut and run? The alliance I worked so much with for so long would have told Exodus exactly where to shove it. Oh well, apparently I am an idiot now. At least we'll always have Paris, Hoo. [/quote] I note how you ignore the way they treated RoK in the situation (denying their help, being discourteous to them) and their blatant disregard for acceptable terms from an insult, and instead harp on the "pickle" these "friends" found themselves in. This is a lesson to RoK to choose their protectorates more carefully and make sure the people are willing to treat them like friends as well, or they will find themselves in this situation again. I don't think they will end up in this situation again, or at least do the best they can to not. edit: lack of clarity Edited May 18, 2011 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305752843' post='2714493'] Baby why you hurt me like that? For your alliance's sake I hope you return as the Emperor soon, at least with you in charge, consistency can be expected. Since you stepped down it seems like contradictions like what has happened in this situation just become the norm. You call me an idiot for pointing out that your steadfast motto was to burn for each other, but here you are having friends you swore to protect finding themselves in a pickle and you cut and run? The alliance I worked so much with for so long would have told Exodus exactly where to shove it. Oh well, apparently I am an idiot now. At least we'll always have Paris, Hoo. [/quote] You cannot help someone that will not let you help them, or will slap your hand away when you offer it in aid/advise. I have never been to paris but i hear it is lovely, any time of the year. Plus they have good healthcare. Or so i hear. [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1305753136' post='2714499'] This is a lesson to RoK to choose their protectorates more carefully and make sure the people are willing to treat them like friends as well, or they will find themselves in this situation again. I don't think they will. [/quote] It is something that we intend to revisit, the entire "help them get started" thing. Edited May 18, 2011 by Alfred von Tirpitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hoo III Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305752843' post='2714493'] Baby why you hurt me like that? For your alliance's sake I hope you return as the Emperor soon, at least with you in charge, consistency can be expected. Since you stepped down it seems like contradictions like what has happened in this situation just become the norm. You call me an idiot for pointing out that your steadfast motto was to burn for each other, but here you are having friends you swore to protect finding themselves in a pickle and you cut and run? The alliance I worked so much with for so long would have told Exodus exactly where to shove it. Oh well, apparently I am an idiot now. At least we'll always have Paris, Hoo. [/quote] It hurts me more than it hurts you to say such things? The problem is that you simply dislike and are still angry at Ragnarok. This clouds your judgment and oozes from your posts. You didn't stop to think that maybe, just MAYBE, Ragnarok tried to help them and didn't like how they responded? Or that perhaps RoK doesn't like a protectorate using their name to push for war? Or ... OR ... there wasn't a threat of war at all and Ragnarok disliked SUN going against the very treaty that they signed. Situations are typically more complex than they seem and not as black and white as you might think ... What do I know though ... I'm just a regular joe now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemMo Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='Swatch0' timestamp='1305751365' post='2714476'] We here at SUN are happy to see that ROK would side with exoduses story over their own ally [/quote] "Story"? It wasn't about a story, you were wrong it's as simple as that. Varianz, love the piece of art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgazza1992 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [i]Meh, what can you do?[/i] [i] [/i] [i]Onwards Ragnarok. o/[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Good move RoK, I hope SUN gets their act together, some solid people over there. <3 Mykep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I mean it's not like they outright refused our help and then did exactly the opposite of what we suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1305759238' post='2714583'] I mean it's not like they outright refused our help and then did exactly the opposite of what we suggested. [/quote] But that's exactly what they... oooOOOHHHhhhh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 SUN you lost yourselves some great allies there, you probably should have listened to their advice, they had your best interests at heart. To all the haters: RoK > You. o/ RoK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 The alliance that backstabbed you the previous war? Worth losing everything for. Your protectorate, which probably didn't known any better? Not worth losing anything for. Get out, Ragnarok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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