HeroofTime55 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1305170007' post='2710441'] Congrats. Interesting that waiver is written into the treaty. [/quote] Because ~*some people*~ don't quite understand that it's an implicit quality inherent in every treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 This treaty actually makes me quite happy. What a wonderful grouping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1305177162' post='2710525'] Because ~*some people*~ don't quite understand that it's an implicit quality inherent in every treaty. [/quote] The fact that it had to be written out means it's not understood? I would think that, in order to write it, one would have to be aware of it. There's also this implicit quality inherent to most treaties where, and this might make you giggle, the writers get to choose and agree upon the words they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1305179539' post='2710540'] The fact that it had to be written out means it's not understood? I would think that, in order to write it, one would have to be aware of it. There's also this implicit quality inherent to most treaties where, and this might make you giggle, the writers get to choose and agree upon the words they use. [/quote] I don't quite understand why you're jumping down my throat. I wasn't saying NSO didn't understand, I was more along the lines of saying that NSO had to spell it out for other people who don't understand. But OK. See also: RoK-NSO war, when people made a huge fuss about NSO demanding it's allies stay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1305174548' post='2710496'] I don't really know who Exodus are but good luck with this NSO. [/quote] Think GGA with 7 more WRCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1305177162' post='2710525'] [color="#8B0000"]Because ~*some people*~ don't quite understand that it's an implicit quality[/color] inherent in every treaty. [/quote] [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1305180428' post='2710546'] I don't quite understand why you're jumping down my throat. I wasn't saying NSO didn't understand, I was more along the lines of saying that NSO had to spell it out for other people who don't understand. But OK. See also: RoK-NSO war, when people made a huge fuss about NSO demanding it's allies stay out. [/quote] It was written by one of ours, your response was to a comment about it being written in. Seems pretty implicit. "Demanding" allies stay out is not the same at all. It has nothing to do with cancelling of treaties or cancellation clauses. We didn't cancel any treaties. Not the same. If it's semantics you're thinking, then perhaps you should point out that we should look into oD clauses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1305180706' post='2710549'] Think GGA with 7 more WRCs. [/quote] Yes Steve because we are so much like GGA in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1305174548' post='2710496'] I don't really know who Exodus are but good luck with this NSO. [/quote] We need to fix that then Sardonic. I will make sure to send over a [s]sacrifice[/s] diplomat to your forum. You are welcome to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1305183725' post='2710573'] We need to fix that then Sardonic. I will make sure to send over a [s]sacrifice[/s] diplomat to your forum. You are welcome to do the same. [/quote] Oh you don't wanna send anyone over there ...... They might make terms to try and steal your peeps too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='ironchef' timestamp='1305183725' post='2710573'] We need to fix that then Sardonic. I will make sure to send over a [s]sacrifice[/s] diplomat to your forum. You are welcome to do the same. [/quote] My condolences to whoever draws the shortest straw Ironchef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1305183927' post='2710576'] My condolences to whoever draws the shortest straw Ironchef. [/quote] Hell I may go just for S&G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Admin help all those involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I didn't think the NSO would stoop [i]this[/i] low, i'll be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williambonney Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1305185633' post='2710582'] I didn't think the NSO would stoop [i]this[/i] low, i'll be honest. [/quote] Well, they could have signed a treaty with some of dh but I guess they aren't interested in being used as meat shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partisan Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 This has been in the works for quite some time now. Looking forward to working with you, NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1305172418' post='2710464'] You mistake my attention for condemnation and ridicule. I merely take note of a clause that I don't recall seeing a whole lot in the past. [/quote] Well, if we have to endure every MDP for the last however many years including an explicit clause to the effect of "also, you can attack people together, if you want" then I think this is fair. It's not a clause that I would like to see used, but considering that the various times we have used it we've been greeted with "You can't do that!" from the slower folks in the audience it seems reasonable to just spell out that "yes, yes we can. Now go back to your sippy cup." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1305186632' post='2710589'] Well, they could have signed a treaty with some of dh but I guess they aren't interested in being used as meat shields.[/quote] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0jdM3.gif[/IMG] Oh you scallywag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 You pair deserve eachother, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubsy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1305185633' post='2710582'] I didn't think the NSO would stoop [i]this[/i] low, i'll be honest. [/quote] who would you prefer us to sign treaties with, lord master? we shall do exactly as you please. Edited May 12, 2011 by Dubsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemMo Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Congrats to both my friends in Exodus and NSO. Good luck Gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 If nothing else its good to see IC on the boards. good luck to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Heft' timestamp='1305195440' post='2710622'] Well, if we have to endure every MDP for the last however many years including an explicit clause to the effect of "also, you can attack people together, if you want" then I think this is fair. It's not a clause that I would like to see used, but considering that the various times we have used it we've been greeted with "You can't do that!" from the slower folks in the audience it seems reasonable to just spell out that "yes, yes we can. Now go back to your sippy cup." [/quote] Thing is I don't think it'll put an end to that in the event it is utilized. People who work to e-lawyer other people's treaties will continue to try and do so, as will those who attack such decisions on broader "value of the treaty" grounds. But it's good to dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partisan Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1305213201' post='2710688'] Thing is I don't think it'll put an end to that in the event it is utilized. People who work to e-lawyer other people's treaties will continue to try and do so, as will those who attack such decisions on broader "value of the treaty" grounds. But it's good to dream. [/quote] The sad part is that you are probably right. Wether you're on one side or the other, the opposition will always cry fault if you enact it. Edited May 12, 2011 by Partisan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Congrats to both of you Edit: dumb typo Edited May 12, 2011 by Andre27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I love both alliances involved. Congrats on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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