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How Gotham recruits.

So being on none, I'm open to being recruited and raided. I was sent a recruitment message from the leader of Gotham trying to recruit me at 2:21pm game time, just a standard message about why I should join their alliance.
At 4:42pm game time I was attacked by a member of Gotham named bbrocheleau, was given a defeat alert and sent a peace offer. I sent a message to Helena Cain, the leader who recruited me asking why I would want to join an alliance that is attacking me at 10:27 game time. I recieved this:

[quote]To: relyt92 From: Helena Cain Date: 4/19/2011 10:30:47 PM

Subject: RE HEY THERE

Message: Well because you are in NONE and nations in NONE are a prime target for tech raid. I of course can get this attack to stop.

=P it is nothing personal though more than likely I had already sent the message before he attacked you. I can though get the wars ended and get you aid to rebuild and prosper, and then you can relax and enjoy building a nation? [/quote]

I replied with a simple message saying I can't join an alliance who is attacking me. I then got this:
[quote]To: relyt92 From: Helena Cain Date: 4/19/2011 11:20:09 PM

Subject: RE: RE HEY THERE

Message: oh well then have fun getting attacked.[/quote]

I was then attacked by another member of Gotham, who has since sent 4 cruise missiles and 4 bombing runs, no peace offer. I was going to send a message to Helena Cain asking about this, but it seems I've been blocked from messaging her.

So here's my message Helena, does this really seem like a great recruitment system to you?

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Who is this alliance, and how are they this bad at common sense and diplomacy?

EDIT: and after some research, I find that Gotham's largest nation is that of checkers6676 of GGA fame, but it's mostly a number of small nations. The alliance has less total nukes than New Sakura Order, which is kind of pathetic.

EDIT2: My services as an alliance development consultant are available for a low, low price! ACT NOW!

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Pfffft. You are in NONE and you are a prime raid target. As a matter of fact you are in anarchy... have no soldiers or other defenses and have 1K soldiers. And you are advertising to the whole world to come an attack you. Now my other member had already attacked you... and I so happen by fluke to send you a recruitment message. Had you have joined I would have of course got peace, but because you did not I notified my alliance you were a prime target. No crime committed. If you dont want to get attack then I suggest you join an alliance or go play a different game.

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[quote name='Helena Cain' timestamp='1303276423' post='2694339']
Pfffft. You are in NONE and you are a prime raid target. As a matter of fact you are in anarchy... have no soldiers or other defenses and have 1K soldiers. And you are advertising to the whole world to come an attack you. Now my other member had already attacked you... and I so happen by fluke to send you a recruitment message. Had you have joined I would have of course got peace, but because you did not I notified my alliance you were a prime target. No crime committed. If you dont want to get attack then I suggest you join an alliance or go play a different game.
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Hello, it appears you are new to the game mechanics. With no soldiers all your people are doing is attacking me. Rezin hasn't even done a single ground attack, with the previous person just sending a defeat alert. This is obviously a great raid opportunity for your members.

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I think it was just coincidence that Helena sent a recruitment message to you before you got attacked. Based on your NS range, maybe the nation that attacked you was just new. Just join a legitimate alliance if you want the techraids to stop.

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[quote name='Eumirbago' timestamp='1303276766' post='2694352']
I think it was just coincidence that Helena sent a recruitment message to you before you got attacked. Based on your NS range, maybe the nation that attacked you was just new. Just join a legitimate alliance if you want the techraids to stop.
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That's fine, but the second attack and bombings/cruise missiles? considering I have 0 soldiers this is hardly a techraid. And Helena is now resorting to name calling in their channel. Prime example of how to gain PR in this world.

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[quote name='Helena Cain' timestamp='1303276423' post='2694339']
Pfffft. You are in NONE and you are a prime raid target. As a matter of fact you are in anarchy... have no soldiers or other defenses and have 1K soldiers. And you are advertising to the whole world to come an attack you. Now my other member had already attacked you... and I so happen by fluke to send you a recruitment message. Had you have joined I would have of course got peace, but because you did not I notified my alliance you were a prime target. No crime committed. If you dont want to get attack then I suggest you join an alliance or go play a different game.
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Hello, you must be new. You've just shown your alliance is highly incompetent at recruiting. Allow me to help you.

Rule 1) You don't attack your recruits.
Rule 2) You don't tell your recruit you can end the attacks if the nation joins your alliance.
Rule 3) Don't say they'll be attacked because they didn't join your alliance.

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[quote name='King Charge' timestamp='1303277046' post='2694370']
This is just a tech raid. We're not forcing you to join OUR AA. Just join ANY AA and I'm sure the wars will cease.
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Please read my earlier posts, this is not a tech raid.

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Pfffft you guys are all pretty slow and naive. Tyler here aka relyt92 wants attention and like the fools people can be he is getting it. A Gotham noob attacked him, who I sent a recruitment letter to. Has nothing to do with force recruitment... he brought up to me the fact that a Gotham nation was attacking him which I was not aware of at the time and I mentioned that I could just so happen get that to stop... he said no so the attacks continued? What more is there to say or hear? The attacks will continue until my nations are done with him or he joins an alliance.

End of Story

Official Gotham Reply.

So you guys can talk about this until the cows come home.

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I have also been banned from #gotham, despite not using any foul language or insulting anybody, the same cannot be said for Helena however. For somebody who seems so set on their path, you sure don't like me being able to communicate with you.

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[quote name='Helena Cain' timestamp='1303277246' post='2694382']
Pfffft you guys are all pretty slow and naive. Tyler here aka relyt92 wants attention and like the fools people can be he is getting it. A Gotham noob attacked him, who I sent a recruitment letter to. Has nothing to do with force recruitment... he brought up to me the fact that a Gotham nation was attacking him which I was not aware of at the time and I mentioned that I could just so happen get that to stop... he said no so the attacks continued? What more is there to say or hear? The attacks will continue until my nations are done with him or he joins an alliance.

End of Story

Official Gotham Reply.

So you guys can talk about this until the cows come home.
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You seem to be very dense today. There is no raiding somebody with 0 soldiers. I would still like an explanation in regards to the second attack since He's done nothing but CM/bombings. Some raid hey?

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Did the MoFA for none make an attempt to negotiate with Gotham? :awesome:

Seriously though, you where told they would stop if you joined their AA (and assuming any other alliance) but continue to be attacked if you are on none.

Should have been in peace mode or joined an alliance, then you wouldn't be raided.

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[quote name='Helena Cain' timestamp='1303277246' post='2694382']
Pfffft you guys are all pretty slow and naive. Tyler here aka relyt92 wants attention and like the fools people can be he is getting it. A Gotham noob attacked him, who I sent a recruitment letter to. Has nothing to do with force recruitment... he brought up to me the fact that a Gotham nation was attacking him which I was not aware of at the time and I mentioned that I could just so happen get that to stop... he said no so the attacks continued? What more is there to say or hear? The attacks will continue until my nations are done with him or he joins an alliance.

End of Story

Official Gotham Reply.

So you guys can talk about this until the cows come home.
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The evidence proves otherwise. You are attacking him for not joining your alliance, plain and simple.

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